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 Following ABC's 18-episode run of Commander in Chief in 2005, CBS' Madam Secretary is the latest attempt at The West Wing 2.0. Exec produced by Morgan Freeman and created by the woman who did Joan of Arcadia, the show follows a former CIA agent turned University of Virginia professor who is asked to be the Secretary of State when the incumbent dies in a (mysterious) plane crash. It is part foreign policy debate, part office politics of the highest level, and part family drama, with a dash of conspiracy thriller. As of this thread going up, 3 episodes have aired, and they are available to stream on CBS.com. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNEu36NUWj4 Cast Elizabeth Faulkner McCord (Tea Leoni) is  Henry McCord (Tim Daly) is a theology professor at Georgetown  Russell Jackson (Zeljko Ivanek) is POTUS' Chief of Staff  Nadine Tolliver (Bebe Neuwirth) is Leo McGarry  Jay Whitman (Sebastian Arcelus) is Josh Lyman  Daisy Finch (Patina Miller) is CJ Cregg  Matt Mahone (Geoffrey Arend) is Sam Seaborn  Conrad Dalton (Keith Carradine) is POTUS 
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Daaaang that's an evil looking president.
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Oct 7, 2014 02:16
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FISHMANPET posted:Daaaang that's an evil looking president. Former CIA. And technically Russell is Leo.
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Oct 7, 2014 03:34
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The Lord Bude posted:Former CIA. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Oct 7, 2014 04:04
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So, uh Dalton is Hoynes/Cowboy Bob Russel, and Russel Jackson is Will?
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Oct 7, 2014 04:27
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I watched a couple episodes of this and it was surprisingly good. Not super great or anything, but better than I expected at least, largely due to the really nice cast.
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Oct 7, 2014 04:47
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This is significantly better than I expected it to be. It's no West Wing but it's better than the more recent West Wing-inspired shows.
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Oct 7, 2014 07:53
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I thought the pilot was a bit weak but it seems to be getting progressively more sure of itself. That's one thing West Wing did really really well: The pilot was amazing and did a fabulous job of introducing you to everyone.
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Oct 7, 2014 11:13
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Yeah I'm enjoying this show, but Apart from the first episode I'm no longer getting the feeling that she's new to the job and struggling in some way but with a different point of view on situations. Come the second episode and she's just doing her job, which took away from what I liked about the pilot. I just feels like there was a jump in time or something. I'll keep watching for now, it's decent enough.
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Oct 7, 2014 11:15
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I'm not sold on the President. Maybe I was just spoiled by Jed Bartlet, but this guy doesn't seem all that presidential.
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Oct 7, 2014 11:31
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I predict he is the bad guy.
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Oct 7, 2014 20:43
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I dont see this show as having any similarities to The West Wing except for both featuring POTUS and the intro. The West Wing was a ensemble/workplace drama that happened to be set inside the White House which made the addition of political pontification seem natural. Madame Secretary on the other hand focuses only on the titular Secretary of State (she is in 90% of the scenes). We get to know her family which I predict will continue to play a major role in the stories but we dont know how her staff interacts when she is not in the room. But it's a decently written political drama so I'm happy with that. Atleast it's more enjoyable then the Newsroom.
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Oct 7, 2014 21:33
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I have not ever seen a single episode of The West Wing so have no comparison. I like this, though. I hope we at least get a full season.
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Oct 8, 2014 04:47
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Bellakitty posted:I have not ever seen a single episode of The West Wing so have no comparison. Take a couple weeks vacation and get on to it. This is inexcusable. At least watch the first 4 seasons.
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Oct 8, 2014 05:09
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If he watches it now, it will ruin this show for him.
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Oct 8, 2014 19:26
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Which one is Danny?
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Oct 8, 2014 19:47
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Which one is Toby?
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Oct 9, 2014 04:33
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bubblegumbo0 posted:Which one is Toby? I'd say her husband. Toby's role was mostly to hold up ideals that were not achievable, sounds like a theology prof.
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Oct 9, 2014 09:12
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bubblegumbo0 posted:Which one is Toby? Nobody that idealistic has a place in politics anymore so nobody.
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Oct 10, 2014 21:57
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Holy poo poo this husband professor dude is a loving narcissistic monster. gently caress him.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:45
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XboxPants posted:Holy poo poo this husband professor dude is a loving narcissistic monster. gently caress him. Is he a mysoginist too?  No, he's just a characture of an Ivy League tenured professor. Trust me they are actually concerned with that poo poo, but are really nice people too.
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Oct 11, 2014 07:51
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TheBigBad posted:Is he a mysoginist too? I understand being concerned with your ethics, especially for an ethics professor... but saying your ethics are more important than someone else's life, that's narcissism.
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Oct 12, 2014 16:34
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XboxPants posted:I understand being concerned with your ethics, especially for an ethics professor... but saying your ethics are more important than someone else's life, that's narcissism. I don't disagree, it's just not monster levels of narcissism.
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Oct 12, 2014 17:55
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It only took 4 episodes for the strange and unnecessary "Tea Leoni in a bra" shot.
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Oct 13, 2014 07:23
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Josh Lyman posted:It only took 4 episodes for the strange and unnecessary "Tea Leoni in a bra" shot. It took the West Wing not even 4 minutes to have a "Rob Lowe in shorts" shot. I'm also calling the inevitable personal assistant/eldest daughter romance.
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Oct 13, 2014 08:55
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Episode 4 was decent. They keep dropping these little hints about the deaths of the former Secretary and that CIA friend of Elizabeth's. That sort of ongoing mystery tease seems unbecoming for this type of show. I hope it actually goes somewhere substantial, but I kinda feel like the show doesn't need it.
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Oct 13, 2014 14:21
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The Lord Bude posted:Episode 4 was decent. Yeah, it feels really out of place. The rest of the show seems highly idealistic and everything always ends well.
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Oct 15, 2014 02:33
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Show feels more ore like "Madame Smugretary" to me, to be honest.  There was one scene in episode one or two where Tea Leoni squinted with just her left eye while trying to look sceptic. Just trying too hard, I guess.
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Oct 15, 2014 06:35
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What they need is someone who actually likes government to write shows like this.
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Oct 15, 2014 07:29
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Josh Lyman posted:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PKtGnyGuKM
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Oct 15, 2014 07:50
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Where do you find an evening gown with pockets in it?
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Oct 20, 2014 06:07
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TheBigBad posted:Where do you find an evening gown with pockets in it?
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Oct 20, 2014 06:36
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Josh Lyman posted:They came into style like half a dozen years ago. Cj would never wear one.
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Oct 20, 2014 06:49
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TheBigBad posted:Cj would never wear one. 
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Oct 20, 2014 07:23
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I thought this was a pretty good episode. It looks like they're going for the whole plots and maneuvering as a long term arc. The West Wing succeeded very well as a show about a group of colleagues who all liked each other and worked together, but for now I'm cool with this show taking a different approach - I guess it's easier to create a compelling show this way.
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Oct 20, 2014 12:40
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Was that Chappy Sinclair in tonight's episode with a fake African accent?  He's gotten fat since Iron Eagle.
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Oct 27, 2014 05:21
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What were they smoking when they wrote the "Secretary's husband gets recruited into the NSA"?
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pentyne posted:What were they smoking when they wrote the "Secretary's husband gets recruited into the NSA"? I'm just glad we were deflected away from 'husband is having an affair' soap opera crap. I also don't particularly want to see the soapy crap of Daisy and Matt - Matt in particular I'm struggling to take seriously. Aside from Nadine, none of the Secretary's staff are really shining the way say, the cast of the West Wing did. I like her family, I'm growing to like Russell and the President, but most of her staff are bland nothings.
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Nov 3, 2014 12:03
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The Lord Bude posted:Aside from Nadine, none of the Secretary's staff are really shining the way say, the cast of the West Wing did. Her personal assistant is awesome.
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So does football keep pushing back 60 minutes which pushes back this which screws up my DVR? I keep having to watch the last half of this on cbs.com. I wish they would stop trying the super troopers guy and black girl romance subplot.
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