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achillesforever6 posted:There is also the philosophy in the WWE where they think the audience "only cares about the main event, so why bother with anything lower" While I hate to bring up comic books in this thread, wrestling is pretty much a live action comic book. There are tiers of heroes…for example, the top tier in DC is Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. Below that, the second-tier are heroes like the Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, Green Arrow, and John Constantine. They’re not on the same power level at the top guys, but they still can mix it up with them or get involved in their storylines without messing up the power structure. Then below them, Zatana, Booster Gold, the Suicide Squad. Again, sometimes they interact with the “higher” tiers, but the power structure is still the same. Same goes for the villains. Lex Luthor, Darkside, the Joker are on top. The Rogues, Black Adam, Black Manta, Two-Face, all fall right underneath. Now, the guys on top are always on top, but they’re not always the focus of the big storyline. Sure, you get stuff like “Knightfall” or “The Death of Superman,” but everyone else has their own monthly comics where their stories are ongoing. And then sometimes, you get “The Sinestro Corps War,” where Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman were involved, but they took a back seat to the Green Lantern Corps vs. the Sinestro Corps…kind of like, say D-X vs. the Nation in the Attitude Era? It was only for a few months, and when the next big storyline broke, “Blackest Night,” the three were heavily involved. But by giving the second tier guys a chance to shine, it made their presence alongside of them mean more than “hey, look who else showed!” Also, one of the biggest compliments given to “Corps War?” No overreliance on Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman. With three hours, the main event tier of Cena/Orton/Rollins/Ambrose/Reigns/Lesnar/Heyman should definitely be given time. But the concept of “only the main eventers get stories” ends up shooting the WWE in the foot, because you are always going to get people who aren’t invested in the storyline, don’t care about the storyline, or are just sick of the people involved IN the storyline. And that’s why you need a second-tier to carry that weight. Don’t care for the main event? Well, you could have the Miz/Sandow and Sheamus, if Miz/Sandow were actually presented as a credible heel threat as opposed to someone even the Authority loathes if SHEAMUS was the person the Authority loathed. You have AJ/Paige, which was very interesting until the Bellas got shoved in. You had, as a good example, Swagger/Rusev, and the story now should be Swagger’s quest for redemption ala Rocky III. And, yes, you have Slater Gator vs. El Toro, which could be a decent comedy segment if the WWE’s writing (or non-committal to writing) didn’t turn the “stupidity/humiliation dial” from “3” to “11.” Sorry, it’s a lot of words about wrestling, but it’s so frustrating to me when one sees the roster and talent depth the WWE has and they waste time on two drunk morning show hosts.
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Karl Ontario posted:What he means is nobody who actually lives on Long Island considers Brooklyn to be "Long Island" and vice versa. If someone says they are going to Long Island, they're going to Nassau or Suffolk county. If they're going to Queens or Brooklyn, they say they're going to Queens or Brooklyn. Source: I live on Long Island. (Another distinction, live "on" Long Island, not "in" it) This is exactly it. Lived in a New York suburb all my life, and nobody would ever say "I'm going to Long Island" if they were going to Brooklyn.
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Oct 7, 2014 18:49
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Everyone on reality TV is "kayfaybing it".
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CobiWann posted:While I hate to bring up comic books in this thread, wrestling is pretty much a live action comic book. please no
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I Before E posted:please no Let me tell you my theory about how Dean Ambrose is WWE's version of Deadpool.
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:Everyone on reality TV is "kayfaybing it". Except for Property Brothers, that show is a shoot brother
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Angular Landbury posted:Let me tell you my theory about how Dean Ambrose is WWE's version of Deadpool. Beyond being a wiseass riddled with diseases?
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Oct 7, 2014 19:06
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I Before E posted:please no Sorry, I just couldn’t think of a better example of “top card/mid card/lower card” outside of wrestling.
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I am getting the impression here that maybe I was just in a bad mood last night and Raw wasn't epically awful. That's good, I suppose. I don't know, I spend a lot of time playing devil's advocate for WWE while trying to get a few of my friends into wrestling, but putting Kathy Lee, Hota, and Adam Rose on my screen forced me to turn off Raw for the first time in three years. Thank Jeebus for all the amazing wrestling going on outside of WWE and TNA because if it weren't for that, I would need to take a break from it all again for a while.
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Can't wait for Lana and Chrisley to interact with each other. "Class not rear end Lana."triplexpac posted:Except for Property Brothers, that show is a shoot brother I need an explanation for this one.
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keevo posted:
I just picked the most recent reality show I've watched, I'm sorry
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keevo posted:Can't wait for Lana and Chrisley to interact with each other. "Class not rear end Lana." As long as it ends with "Rusev crush" I'm ok with this.
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Oct 7, 2014 19:33
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:Everyone on reality TV is "kayfaybing it". I have no difficulty believing Adam Richman is exactly the same in real life as he is on Man v Food
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CobiWann posted:Sorry, I just couldn’t think of a better example of “top card/mid card/lower card” outside of wrestling. Top card: Nazi Germany Midcard: Japan Lower card: Italy 
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Oct 7, 2014 19:40
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Guy Fieri is as good as the Undertaker at keeping kayfabe.
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Solomonic posted:I have no difficulty believing Adam Richman is exactly the same in real life as he is on Man v Food http://hollywoodlife.com/2014/07/02/adam-richman-instagram-rant-man-finds-food-show-canceled-postponed/ He melts down online, just like the rest of us.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Top card: Nazi Germany Top tier – the United States, the Soviet Union Second tier – Britain Third tier – Free French Developmental - China
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Oct 7, 2014 19:50
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CobiWann posted:While I hate to bring up comic books in this thread, wrestling is pretty much a live action comic book. This is the nerdiest and dumbest post
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Karl Ontario posted:What he means is nobody who actually lives on Long Island considers Brooklyn to be "Long Island" and vice versa. If someone says they are going to Long Island, they're going to Nassau or Suffolk county. If they're going to Queens or Brooklyn, they say they're going to Queens or Brooklyn. Source: I live on Long Island. (Another distinction, live "on" Long Island, not "in" it) I was talking about how Ambrose's use of one of Mick Foley's signature moves may have been a tribute to him in a show taking place close to his hometown, so in that context I used the name of a geographic feature which encompasses both the location of last night's show as well as Mick's hometown rather than one or the other.
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Oct 7, 2014 19:51
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bradzilla posted:This is the nerdiest and dumbest post Dogg this is a wrestling forum, there ain't no room to sling nerd mud
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Oct 7, 2014 19:55
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So this Chrisley guy ripped off Hogan Knows Best? Is that why he's going to be on Raw?
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Corzaa posted:So this Chrisley guy ripped off Hogan Knows Best? Is that why he's going to be on Raw?
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Oct 7, 2014 20:12
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They should have Chrisley do a promo with visiting ECW Legend New Jack. That would probably end amusingly.
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projecthalaxy posted:They should have Chrisley do a promo with visiting ECW Legend New Jack. That would probably end amusingly. I too would like to watch Chrisley get stabbed on live television.
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Oct 7, 2014 20:21
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I Before E posted:please no It's a huge and obvious overlap, deal with it
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Oct 7, 2014 20:25
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Please shut up
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CapnAndy posted:Yeah, because one of them is all about men and women with godly physiques in revealing clothing, organized by a clear dichotomy of good and evil (with a few entertaining wildcards) who settle all their differences with violence, and the other is oh wait it's really not
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My strong convictions about comic books and their relation to pro wrestling necessitate their use in the explanation of basic wrestling concepts to wrestling nerds in the wrestling forum. If you have a problem then DEAL WITH IT!
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pro bass fishing was always my goto when it came to wrestling analogies. there are faces who teach you valuable techniques and who do not lie about the size of their fish (bill dance, the lindners) and heels who will tell you a 5 pound bass is 10 pounds (jimmy houston, roland martin).
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Oct 7, 2014 20:43
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CapnAndy posted:godly physiques buddha was a god I guess 
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CobiWann posted:Sorry, I just couldn’t think of a better example of “top card/mid card/lower card” outside of wrestling.
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projecthalaxy posted:They should have Chrisley do a promo with visiting ECW Legend New Jack. That would probably end amusingly. haha yeah or what if they dug up macho man's corpse and reanimated it
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Oct 7, 2014 21:03
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Who is the Ambush Bug of the WWE?
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LividLiquid posted:I really liked your example and found it quite apt. This really says it all, doesn't it,
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Dude. There's another nerd medium that understands that you can actually do poo poo with your undercard. It's pretty cut and dry.
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My eyes just gloss over when I see the word 'comic book' on this forum. It's almost as uninteresting as when somebody posts a wrestling dream they had.
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this isn't bss
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Burt Buckle posted:My eyes just gloss over when I see the word 'comic book' on this forum. It's almost as uninteresting as when somebody posts a wrestling dream they had.
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Sprecherscrow posted:I too would like to watch Chrisley get stabbed on live television. This, but with no irony at all. If Chrisley took a bad bump and died I would hail whoever did it as pretty much Man of the Year. Every time I see his face or hear his voice or any of the words he's saying I'm filled with an irrational, uncontrollable rage and if he were to go away forever for any reason I would be pretty happy. Also wrestling is totally a comic book, deal with it and stop living in denial you nerds.
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TheJoker138 posted:This, but with no irony at all. If Chrisley took a bad bump and died I would hail whoever did it as pretty much Man of the Year. Every time I see his face or hear his voice or any of the words he's saying I'm filled with an irrational, uncontrollable rage and if he were to go away forever for any reason I would be pretty happy. I wasn't being ironic. I'm pretty much in the same boat you are.
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