Shaggar posted:

why didn't you just drive her there?

Luigi Thirty posted:

the world would be better off if 1866 Mississippi had a nuclear bomb detonated on it

Luigi Thirty posted:

okay, a nuclear bomb that only affects white people

Luigi Thirty posted:

okay, a nuclear bomb that only affects white people

quote:

3. Ms. Young was quickly exposed to Zillow’s “frat house” and “boys club culture” where binge drinking and the willingness to participate in lewd discourse was rewarded by lucrative assignments in the form of Zillow managers routing incoming calls for potential sales leads.

4. As a result of Ms. Young not participating in the conduct described above, Ms. Young’s sales manager would make comments to her during the course of her work day such as “are you too old to close?” and “try to keep up with us.” It was commonplace at the Zillow office for managers to inform employees, including Ms. Young, that if you do not “drink the Zillow kool-aid” there would be no opportunity for career advancement.

5. Ultimately, on October 11, 2014, Ms. Young was hospitalized because her preexisting injuries caused by a car accident were exacerbated by the work conditions and work hours at Zillow. Specifically, Ms. Young was required to stay standing for up to three hours at a time, being wholly prohibited from sitting during these hours by her managers. This practice known as the “blitz” still occurs to this day.

6. Ms. Young notified her manager, the human resource department, and the Chief Executive Officer, Spencer Rascoff, of her injuries and provided a doctor’s letter reflecting her hospitalization as Zillow had requested. While she was hospitalized, Ms. Young also requested accommodations for her medical condition upon her return to work. Unbeknownst to Ms. Young, while she was hospitalized, Zillow had reassigned her book of business to other younger inside sales representatives at Zillow. Before Ms. Young could return to work, she was terminated on the pretextual grounds of “job abandonment” due to her hospitalization.

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20. Zillow management had a policy of refusing employees’ requests for legally-required meal and rest periods in violation of California Labor Codes section 226.7 and 512. Ms. Young and other employees were regularly required to remain in the building during their meal and rest breaks and were required work at their desks during lunch.

21. Zillow also had the unlawful policy of randomly designating specific hours of the day, which Zillow management would call “the wave” or “the blitz,” in which employees, including Ms. Young, were either not allowed to standup and/or were not allowed to sit down while the employee makes non-stop sales calls. These designated periods would routinely last for approximately two to three hours.

22. Since the inception of Ms. Young’s employment, she was required to take part in these randomly designated “wave” or “blitz” periods in which she was not allowed to sit, stand, or take a break from making sales calls. Ms. Young understood, as did other employees, that if they did not participate in the “wave” or “blitz” their employment with Zillow would be terminated.

23. On or about July 7, 2014, Ms. Young was hospitalized in connection with an automobile accident which caused injuries to her neck, back, and shoulders. Ms. Young informed her manager of her accident and hospitalization.

24. Fearful that she would be terminated if she requested time off, since Ms. Young witnessed the termination of other employees who requested time off at Zillow, Ms. Young returned to work the following day. Despite Ms. Young’s consistent pain, she continued to work, successfully performed her duties, and consistently met her sales goals and other criteria established by Zillow.

25. Following her car accident, Ms. Young would feel extreme pain in her back as a result of sitting or standing for the unreasonably long portions of time which Zillow required during the required “blitz” and “wave” call periods. On several occasions, Ms. Young would request that she be allowed her legally mandated meal and rest breaks, and also required that she be allowed to stand up or sit down during the required “blitz” and “wave” call periods.

26. On several occasion, Ms. Young would inform management of her condition and difficulty showing up to work at 6:30 a.m. or need to go to physical therapy on her lunch breaks. Nonetheless, she was chastised and reprimanded on numerous occasions.

FMguru posted:

its also one of the very few current applications of 3d printing that shows some immediate utility (3d printing custom artificial limbs for very cheap) as opposed to making blobby yoda figurines. developing world countries with landmines or ongoing civil wars have a lot of people missing limbs and not a lot of money for decent prosthetics.

fun fact: in 1866 one-fifth of the state budget of mississippi went towards the purchase of artificial limbs

Main Paineframe posted:

remember that zillow sexual harassment lawsuit? well it turns out that in addition to that one, zillow is facing three other labor rights lawsuits right now. one for not giving employees breaks and forcing them to work unpaid overtime, one for retaliating against an internal whistleblower who discovered his office was committing widespread fraud and reported it to upper management, and another discrimination case from a middle-aged woman who faced both sex and age discrimination and got fired when she was in the hospital.



and this is all just from the one that's only alleging age discrimination. i wish i could see the look on the judges face when he reads this, there's like five different illegal things in it

Luigi Thirty posted:

I still don't know what zillow actually does

Optimus_Rhyme posted:

Thing is, in a culture like that she'll be seen as the person who ruined their culture.


Also I had no idea zillow actually sold anything.

Dolomite posted:

Current Employee - Inside Sales Consultant in Irvine, CA posted:

LOUD - you will have people screaming, cheering, clapping, noise makers, loud music, etc ALL DAY EVERYDAY
Its a non stop pep rally and the farthest thing from a professional sales environment you will ever see.

Revolving door - 90% turnover - don't believe otherwise

35k base salary

Long hours - expect 10-12 hours a day to succeed for your first year - sometimes more

Job outlook - This job never gets easier, don't believe the hype. You will make even more calls tomorrow than you did today. There are 200+ sales reps calling the same zip codes, talking to the same agents, about the same product day after day.

Call time - you are REQUIRED to TALK 210 minutes everyday (no, the phone ringing doesn't count towards it)
You will be expected to hit this number every day. Skip lunch, come in early, and stay late but for gods sake don't miss call time. (this correlates greatly to the 90% turnover).

You will be told to stand up constantly. Some managers will even take your chair away from you.

You will be discouraged from ever taking time off. Management pretends they need advance notice to take your PTO. They will railroad you if you are sick and expect that you work anyway.

You will sell terrible advertising packages because you have a quota to hit. You know its not worth what it costs but you'll sell it anyway. (This is a flaw because the product can work well when sold correctly)

TerminalRaptor posted:

I own stock in them , although I should probably sell on this news

quote:

A woman in India says she was raped by a taxi driver after booking the cab using the popular Uber smartphone app.
The 26-year-old from Delhi told police she dozed off in the taxi and when she woke up the vehicle was parked in a secluded part of the capital.

TerminalRaptor posted:

...but but their Glassdoor rating is a solid four!


Sales is how they make most of their money. They hawk their various services to realtors and the like. Their growth has been ridiculous (full disclosure, I own stock in them , although I should probably sell on this news). It looks like all these lawsuits are directed at their sales department too. Sales always seems like the septic tank of most companies where all the poo poo gathers. It's as if there something about it that attracts unreputable people (oh wait, no it isn't)

For a long time I wish I had applied with them (development not sales ) before they went public. Guess my inaction once again resulted in my dodging a bullet.

quote:

“Smart people & beautiful women everywhere! ”
4 Stars - Former Employee - Zillow Inside Sales Consultant in Seattle, WA

I worked at Zillow full-time (less than an year)

Pros
The pay is decent, commission potential great!
My manager was super hot!

Cons
Low inventory making it unfair for a newer employee to build a book of business.
It feels like a total grind everyday.

Advice to Management
Add a variety of products to sell so you don't have high turn over.

Elder Postsman posted:

but we can't have a daily driver that has reliability issues. it's just not acceptable anymore.

Jonny 290 posted:

yeah foresters have like 1" more ground clearance than most "SUV-class" vehicles. and they drive like a car pretty much

Main Paineframe posted:

if exploitation of employees (particularly women) bothered anyone, wal-mart would be dead instead of ultra successful. and for all the noise that people make about privacy it never seems to have much real impact on the way people behave

as long as the customer experience is preserved at all costs people won't give a poo poo. i think americans would be okay with a store that literally physically beat their employees for mistakes as long as the manager had the decency to drag them into a closed off and soundproofed room so the customer doesn't have to see or hear it (with an optional viewing window in case the customer would like to see and hear it)

Citizen Tayne posted:

lol if you need to drive daily

Citizen Tayne posted:

lol if you need to drive daily

Citizen Tayne posted:

lol if you need

Citizen Tayne posted:

lol you

Citizen Tayne posted:

lol owned

ConanTheLibrarian posted:

ha ha!



not really

Main Paineframe posted:

remember that zillow sexual harassment lawsuit? well it turns out that in addition to that one, zillow is facing three other labor rights lawsuits right now. one for not giving employees breaks and forcing them to work unpaid overtime, one for retaliating against an internal whistleblower who discovered his office was committing widespread fraud and reported it to upper management, and another discrimination case from a middle-aged woman who faced both sex and age discrimination and got fired when she was in the hospital.



and this is all just from the one that's only alleging age discrimination. i wish i could see the look on the judges face when he reads this, there's like five different illegal things in it

TerminalRaptor posted:

...but but their Glassdoor rating is a solid four!


Sales is how they make most of their money. They hawk their various services to realtors and the like. Their growth has been ridiculous (full disclosure, I own stock in them , although I should probably sell on this news). It looks like all these lawsuits are directed at their sales department too. Sales always seems like the septic tank of most companies where all the poo poo gathers. It's as if there something about it that attracts unreputable people (oh wait, no it isn't)

For a long time I wish I had applied with them (development not sales ) before they went public. Guess my inaction once again resulted in my dodging a bullet.

quote:

Jessica Padgett's stepfather videotaped himself having sex with Padgett -- after he'd killed her -- according to Northampton County District Attorney John Morganelli.

"So there's a videotape of him abusing the corpse sexually," Morganelli told The Morning Call.

This new information means that Graf will not face the death penalty if he's convicted. Desecration of a corpse is not an aggravating factor in Pennsylvania, as opposed to sexual assault while a victim is alive.

Graf was in his first public appearance in court when this fact was revealed. He requested a public defender but was denied because of his wealth.

Werthog 95 posted:

jesus christ lay off the emoticons buddy

Werthog 95 posted:

jesus christ lay off the emoticons buddy

infernal machines posted:

it reads like one of nicsho's buttcoin articles

wait. is nicsho a goon?

Werthog 95 posted:

he pretty much broke down on twitter after one person complained about him, i think he'd kill himself if he found the buttcoin thread.

Chris Knight posted:

sounds like zillows culture is rape for disruption