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Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



Everyone who's all like "Urban 'thugs'/POOOOORS" :byodood: deserve to get lost behind that gaping abyss beyond Hells' Kitchen late at night while looking for their ~Times Square~ hotel. After spending $150 on that loving Applebees because they can pretend they're absorbing culture by checking out the neon lights and tourist trap stores while avoiding anything that they wouldn't find in their suburban hellhole mall back at home.

I am a mixed race hoodbaby who grew up in the Bronx, and the only thing worse than living in the Bronx is being too poor to continue to live in the Bronx. The only pleasure I got during those dreary rides home was watching white tourists and sheltered hipster kids squirm at the 149th St. station.

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proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
there was a throwaway line in one of Kurt Vonnegut's book that goes "Chicago is a better city than New York because Chicago has alleys. The garbage doesn't pile up on the sidewalks. Delivery vehicles don't block main thoroughfares."

He has a point there

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Slipknot Hoagie posted:

I'm over in Wisconsin today and I'm lollin at how it is here vs. NYC. Pro life signs, pro God signs, gun shops everywhere, hell the NRA runs pro 2nd amendment ads on tv (nice win today btw Packers). I saw wind turbines for the first time in my life. Went through the radio, no hip hop stations. There's a place called Germantown. People was talking German on the goddamn radio. I'm lovin it :hitler: Gotta escape the nanny handout state.

Sounds like you were driving on US-41. Hope you loved the endless stretch of alternating Jesus and Porn Shop billboards!

Also I live like a mile south of Germantown.

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



proof of concept posted:

there was a throwaway line in one of Kurt Vonnegut's book that goes "Chicago is a better city than New York because Chicago has alleys. The garbage doesn't pile up on the sidewalks. Delivery vehicles don't block main thoroughfares."

He has a point there

New York has a few alleys here and there, great place to go if you want to get drugs or die

Egoist
Aug 19, 2010

Love myself today
Let you go today
Lipstick Apathy
i visited this weekend for the first time

smells better than montreal

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Cuckoo posted:

Everyone who's all like "Urban 'thugs'/POOOOORS" :byodood: deserve to get lost behind that gaping abyss beyond Hells' Kitchen late at night while looking for their ~Times Square~ hotel. After spending $150 on that loving Applebees because they can pretend they're absorbing culture by checking out the neon lights and tourist trap stores while avoiding anything that they wouldn't find in their suburban hellhole mall back at home.

I am a mixed race hoodbaby who grew up in the Bronx, and the only thing worse than living in the Bronx is being too poor to continue to live in the Bronx. The only pleasure I got during those dreary rides home was watching white tourists and sheltered hipster kids squirm at the 149th St. station.

Hell's kitchen is nice now sorry.

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



Jeffrey posted:

Hell's kitchen is nice now sorry.

Did they clean up the areas surrounding it? I remember there being a tourist safe zone around 42nd/Hells' Kitchen but anywhere beyond around the Port Authority area was terrifying. Like worse than where I used to live where I couldn't play outside because our neighborhood had a shooting.

Literally the first day of my first job in a store right by the Port Authority, I watched a hobo get kicked off of a mattress she had placed outside of our front door while combing her hair with something that was not a comb like a fat bargain bin Ariel

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgIE6Pb_MFE

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

A. Beaverhausen posted:

So there's no metropolitan place that doesn't suck and everyone should live in the Styx with hillbillies.

San Antonio's pretty cool.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

boom boom boom posted:

San Antonio's pretty cool.

most of texas basically boils down to, well at least the cost for things like rent is much cheaper.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Cuckoo posted:

Did they clean up the areas surrounding it? I remember there being a tourist safe zone around 42nd/Hells' Kitchen but anywhere beyond around the Port Authority area was terrifying. Like worse than where I used to live where I couldn't play outside because our neighborhood had a shooting.

Literally the first day of my first job in a store right by the Port Authority, I watched a hobo get kicked off of a mattress she had placed outside of our front door while combing her hair with something that was not a comb like a fat bargain bin Ariel

I dunno I regularly walk the 50s and 8th-9th late at night and don't see anything weird(at least above baseline nyc weird). I don't know if it gets worse further south or west. I try to stay out of the time square part. I just know it as a place with lots of restaurants and don't really think twice about it. Obviously these are just my impressions and I have no real evidence beyond them.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

etalian posted:

most of texas basically boils down to, well at least the cost for things like rent is much cheaper.

Yeah, you probably wouldn't like San Antonio if you're a racist. That's why people like Austin, it's the most segregated big city in the state, so you don't have to see all the Mexicans like in SA or all the blacks like in Houston.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Jeffrey posted:

I dunno I regularly walk the 50s and 8th-9th late at night and don't see anything weird(at least above baseline nyc weird). I don't know if it gets worse further south or west. I try to stay out of the time square part. I just know it as a place with lots of restaurants and don't really think twice about it. Obviously these are just my impressions and I have no real evidence beyond them.

midtown is the worst surpassing even the Bronx:
http://maps.nyc.gov/crime/


boom boom boom posted:

Yeah, you probably wouldn't like San Antonio if you're a racist. That's why people like Austin, it's the most segregated big city in the state, so you don't have to see all the Mexicans like in SA or all the blacks like in Houston.

ahh yes scenic San Antonio. Houston is what would happen if The Blob swallowed Atlanta, rolled sideways a few hundred miles, and then slowly rotted in the middle of a poisoned bayou. It's hot, totally disordered, crime-ridden, flat, and strapped into some kind of shape by ring roads like an obese man stuffed into five layers of Spanx.

etalian fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Oct 13, 2014

Mr. Creakle
Apr 27, 2007

Protecting your virginity



FAKE EDIT ^^^^ Yeah called it

Jeffrey posted:

I dunno I regularly walk the 50s and 8th-9th and night and don't see anything weird(at least above baseline nyc weird). I don't know if it gets worse further south or west. I try to stay out of the time square part. I just know it as a place with lots of restaurants and don't really think twice about it. Obviously these are just my impressions and I have no real evidence beyond them.

The 50s were never bad, it was more the low 40s/30s and 10th that got lovely. The only time in my life I've ever been robbed was around there. And yeah, Times Square is the place to Avoid At All Costs.

My job used to be right after the stores began to taper off, so every day's commute to work was slowed down by fat tourists waddling sloooowly forward, clogging up the sidewalk while gawking at tacky merchandise and staring up at the high buildings. Tourists can be cool, and I know Times Square is an amazing thing to see if you grew up elsewhere, but it only takes 30 seconds of observing the people directing their body traffic around you to notice that taking slow, shuffling steps in one of the busiest sidewalks of the city is being an rear end in a top hat.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Cuckoo posted:

but anywhere beyond around the Port Authority area was terrifying. Like worse than where I used to live where I couldn't play outside because our neighborhood had a shooting.

I never worried about getting shot near the Port Authority, because that place made me want to put a gun in my mouth.

E: Also, I used to work across the street from the old WTC site, where people peddling 9/11 crap to tourists made my skin crawl. Add that to the "gently caress this" list.

Torka
Jan 5, 2008

I've never been to nyc but it seems like it'd be awesome if you were rich

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Torka posted:

I've never been to nyc but it seems like it'd be awesome if you were rich

Torka
Jan 5, 2008


sucks to be the dudes who carried that piano up to whatever floor that is

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Torka posted:

sucks to be the dudes who carried that piano up to whatever floor that is

being rich owns

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
eat the rich

proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
rich people buildings have freight elevators for that kind of thing

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich

If I win the lifetime publishers clearing house I could have an apartment like that :(

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Regular rich just moves upstate to a five million dollar house. Rich to the point they have become literally retarded buys a penthouse.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Even super retarded rich in New York just means a small living space by anywhere else in America standards.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

boom boom boom posted:

Even super retarded rich in New York just means a small living space by anywhere else in America standards.

Yeah but you get to like, go do whatever you want outside your apartment with no bullshit like driving for 30 minutes first, and then you can get drunk there and come home without endangering the lives of others. Home is for sleeping and eating.

Also that's why you move away when you have kids I guess.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine

Jeffrey posted:

Home is for sleeping and eating.

This is true when you live in New York, I guess.

BLARGHLE
Oct 2, 2013

But I want something good
to die for
To make it beautiful to live.
Yams Fan

etalian posted:

Large iconic cities like New York, Washington DC or San Francisco are often overrated.

DC and San Fran are still pretty okay, if you know what you're getting into. NY is just an expensive, smelly mess,

BLARGHLE
Oct 2, 2013

But I want something good
to die for
To make it beautiful to live.
Yams Fan

boom boom boom posted:

Even super retarded rich in New York just means a small living space by anywhere else in America standards.

Yeah, we have the richest counties in the country around here, and they sure as gently caress don't hole up in penthouse apartments. Mansions and occasionally literal castles that should probably be stormed by the serving classes, but at least they're not 5 million dollar penthouses...

Gerty
Jun 11, 2013

by XyloJW
yeah new york sucks but the pizza is sooooo good

just kidding it's the same pizza as everywhere else

Wizard Master
Mar 25, 2008

I am the Wizard Master
i'm glad of 9/11

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
pretty sure those penthouses are mainly a way for very, very rich russian and chinese and wherever else oligarchs/gangsters/tycoons to launder money by converting it into real estate.

actually i've heard that nyc has too much ultra-mega-luxury-plus apartments now and that developers way overestimated demand.

also new yorkers why is there so much crime in midtown

jarjarbinksfan621
Mar 4, 2012
i don't get new york, how are there so many poors with everything being so expensive? i think new york looks cool and all, and i like the idea of being able to be perpetually lost in the crowd, but gently caress paying that much for poo poo.

every time i see a spiderman movie, it makes me think i would love to live in new york more than anything, but then i come to the realization that i actually just want to be spiderman.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
new york is a lot of fun for a while if youre young but som people base their whole identity and self worth around living there and start spamming facebook with "20 things only a real new yorker knows" poo poo after living there for two months

gorki
Aug 9, 2014

etalian posted:

It's no wonder why it stinks to high heaven during the summer due to garbage tower of babel outside the high rise buildings and restaurants



you sure this isn't a scene from The Sopranos?

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.
i pretty much like it. the bars stay open till REALLY early in the god drat morning its fuckin nuts and i appreciate the piss and iron smell of the subways. plus a really cool and rich dude once bought some of my cousin's art in chelsea and then took us to eat then back to his penthouse and it owned seeing how privileged folk live. The penthouse had the softest carpet ive ever experienced and its own server room. A+++++++ would visit again.

btw dont worry the rich dude didnt try to bone any of us.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
I thought it was OK. Not the best place I've ever been but worth visiting

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Anytime I leave NYC and go to another city everything closes at 8 and no one delivers food except chain pizza places and there's no culture (come see the community theater's production of Oklahoma!) and there's like 1 gay bar and if I want to drink I have to find a DD or figure out how the hell I'm going to get back to the hotel and yeah it just sucks and is boring.

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
Some admin is hacking this thread and changing the title and the posts and it's very problematic.

jenny jones fan fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 13, 2014

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Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
It would be great if it weren't for the New Yorkers I guess

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