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Omi-Polari posted:
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Oct 24, 2014 14:20
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Marxism doesnt solve the problem of hegemonic rationality disciplining the movement of human bodies in order to maximize their productive forces, thus reducing all humans to passive nihilism.
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Oct 24, 2014 14:21
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Ocean Book posted:Marxism doesnt solve the problem of hegemonic rationality disciplining the movement of human bodies in order to maximize their productive forces, thus reducing all humans to passive nihilism. that's right. what's needed is a reconciliation between marxism, liberalism, and anarchism to create the ideological background of the future
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Oct 24, 2014 14:23
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whats really needed is the abolition of time and its measurement.quote:In no characteristic is existing society in the West so sharply distinguished from the earlier societies, whether of Europe or the East, than in its conception of time. To the ancient Chinese or Greek, to the Arab herdsman or Mexican peon of today, time is represented in the cyclic processes of nature, the alternation of day and night, the passage from season to season. The nomads and farmers measured and still measure their day from sunrise to sunset, and their year in terms of the seedtime and harvest, of the falling leaf and the ice thawing on the lakes and rivers. The farmer worked according to the elements, the craftsman for so long as he felt it necessary to perfect his product. Time was seen in a process of natural change, and men were not concerned in its exact measurement. For this reason civilisations highly developed in other respects had the most primitive means of measuring time, the hour glass with it's trickling sand or dripping water, the sundial, useless on a dull day, and the candle or lamp whose unburnt remnant of oil or wax indicated the hours. All these devices where approximate and inexact, and were often rendered unreliable by the weather or the personal laziness of the tender. Nowhere in the ancient or medieval world were more than a tiny minority of men concerned with time in the terms of mathematical exactitude.
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Oct 24, 2014 18:32
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Effectronica posted:I have a sense that you think other people are inherently less real or at least stupider than you are, and that you're probably vaguely unpleasant to be around as a consequence. Yup. Alan Watts talked about this a lot. Paranoia that you're the special snowflake and that everyone else is faking it. It's like a negative feedback loop on internet message boards because everyone has their personal favorite favorite philosopher or writer or pornstar or whatever. And they hold THE SECRET ANSWER TO IT ALL. And heaven loving help you if you challenge that view. The screech that can be heard by their brains generating the necessary vitriol to tell you you're a fag or trash or whatever is p funny though. Like read some Stephen Hawking breh. Model dependent view of the word.
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Oct 24, 2014 18:54
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Liberal marxists are like comedians that you don't have to pay for directly, but will be more than happy for you to do so.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:01
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R-Type posted:Liberal marxists are like comedians that you don't have to pay for directly, but will be more than happy for you to do so. And the quarterly reporting, friedmen worshiping, number crunching spergs will take that joke, chop it into easily monetizable unfunny bits of watered down poo poo, targeted at the lowest common demonitor, ensuring largest market capture to appease short-sighted, tasteless stockholders.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:16
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ThisGuy posted:It's like a negative feedback loop on internet message boards because everyone has their personal favorite favorite philosopher or writer or pornstar or whatever. And they hold THE SECRET ANSWER TO IT ALL.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:21
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Ocean Book posted:whats really needed is the abolition of time and its measurement. you can't (heh) turn back the clock on this issue, but the great promise of mechanisation and industrialisation - that they'd allow more free time for workers due to equal or greater efficiency and productivity for less effort - got hosed right in the rear end in a top hat. Obviously the efficicent, intelligent capitalist simply laid-off half the workforce, forced the other half to work the same hours at the "labour saving" machinery as before, and leveraged the direct threat of being replaced by those recently unemployed to stave off any complaints or uppityness from the remaining labourers. How amazing! The same (or better) productivity, a smaller workforce and stagnating wages! Incredible! What an amazing system!
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Oct 24, 2014 19:21
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Omi-Polari posted:You mean Marx and Marxism right Whatever you use as ego insulation, sure Edit; Little from Collum A, little from Collum B
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Oct 24, 2014 19:22
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Oberleutnant posted:you can't (heh) turn back the clock on this issue, but the great promise of mechanisation and industrialisation - that they'd allow more free time for workers due to equal or greater efficiency and productivity for less effort - got hosed right in the rear end in a top hat. Obviously the efficicent, intelligent capitalist simply laid-off half the workforce, forced the other half to work the same hours at the "labour saving" machinery as before, and leveraged the direct threat of being replaced by those recently unemployed to stave off any complaints or uppityness from the remaining labourers. How amazing! The same (or better) productivity, a smaller workforce and stagnating wages! Incredible! What an amazing system! can I ask who made this promise I feel like if I had to guess, the only people who would passionately espouse such an idea back in the beginning of the industrial revolution would be the people who had the most to gain from mechanization and industrialization.
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