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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
we have two parties instead of only one so you can just tell right off the bat that we are free

Miltank fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Oct 16, 2014

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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Leninism is fatally flawed and should not serve as a starting point for future revolutionary ideas. iIt is up to intellectuals of the 21st century to figure out what communism (that is, concerning the commons) will look like for our time.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Oberleutnant posted:

Communism is a very specifically defined mode of production that is easily identified when implemented, and no state has. Pls show the class a single historical or contemporary study or article which claimed the ussr had implemented full communism.

Also when half of the world's wealth is hoarded by like 5% of the people then yeah eveyone pretty much is poor under capitalism lol

how could I be poor when I have this refrigerator and microwave?

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

PrinceRandom posted:

Full communism is a messianic myth

The Kingdom of Heaven will be the establishment of full communism.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Applewhite posted:

"Communism would work if people would just give it a chance" has been the whiny excuse given by communist apologists for decades.

communist apologists have been correct for decades now, good observation.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
hey how come Russia didn't immediately become the number #1 world power in all measurable aspects after a bloody regime change in the early 20th century? Seems like forty or so years should have been more than enough time to out produce the most powerful industrial economy of all time.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

curious lump posted:

at first i thought effectronica was ironically bad and now im not really sure anymore but it doesn't actually matter because they're just criminally boring and trite eitherway.

mods please gas.

e: :69snypa:

i will make you breath my fart gas

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
What if communism was about finding a system of fairly controlling the common resources that we share as humans?

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Omi-Polari posted:

what i don't get is how commies in these threads always talk about how you can't bring up the USSR and a bunch of other failed communist states, but then on a dime they also praise those states for their amazing achievements until the world ran in the opposite direction as fast as it could.

i mean if you're proposing something new then that's cool and i'm interested. but what i actually hear is a let's go with a giant rotting leftist state again. okay that'll be disastrous. that's self-deluded.

People bring up the successes of the USSR because it highlights that economies alternative to free market capitalism can be extremely powerful. I agree with you about the second part though, leninism should die.

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Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
Marx was wrong about the revolution being inevitable. He didn't realize how good technology would get or that we were killing the planet.

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