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Oberleutnant posted:*Achieves 200 years of industrial development in 40 years* ugh it doesnt loving work u idiots
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Effectronica posted:Better at what? At turning human relationships into things you can buy and sell? In exalting greed and tyranny as the greatest behaviors?
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Oct 16, 2014 18:24
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all communist countries revert to capitalism eventually. some just get there quicker than others. 
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Oct 16, 2014 18:27
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The revolution will not be televised. But the counter-revolution will. 
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Oct 16, 2014 18:41
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the soviets built really good assault rifles and fighter airplanes so i'll give it that
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Oct 16, 2014 19:27
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Effectronica posted:Yeah, under normal conditions of existence, people pay for other people to pretend to like them. This is an absolute. Mhm. And of course, greed is good and the only thing that works as well. Uh-huh.
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Oct 16, 2014 19:33
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what i don't get is how commies in these threads always talk about how you can't bring up the USSR and a bunch of other failed communist states, but then on a dime they also praise those states for their amazing achievements until the world ran in the opposite direction as fast as it could. i mean if you're proposing something new then that's cool and i'm interested. but what i actually hear is a let's go with a giant rotting leftist state again. okay that'll be disastrous. that's self-deluded.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:13
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Effectronica posted:You seriously want a lengthy proposition in the middle of GBS, outlining a grand reconciliation between Marxist, anarchist, and liberal ideas?
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Oct 16, 2014 20:36
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But I would suggest reading Karel Capek, for real.
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Oberleutnant posted:The revolution doesn't happen overnight - it has to be a transformative process that only begins with the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie and seizure of the means of production. Full Communism demands as prerequisites highly advanced industry, automation, etc. The transition from Russia, Cuba, and China's unarguably agrarian economies could not produce the surplusses needed for communism without proceeding through stages of socialism to develop their internal economies and industrial strength in particular.
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Oct 16, 2014 20:38
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Azraelle posted:I am awake again after a long good nights sleep, dreaming of communism.
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Oct 17, 2014 10:04
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The Taint Reaper posted:if you based everything around morals nothing would work or get done. but making law subordinate to political morality meant access to poo poo came through connections to party apparatchiks. modern russia is the same but more naked about it and dressed up in great russia nationalism. same poo poo. (and actually same leaders.) it really means looting on a scale that dwarfs things even like the 2008 financial crisis. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Oct 17, 2014 |
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Oct 17, 2014 10:16
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in communism, would you be allowed to get silicon valley billionaire rich by making tools and providing services people use and enjoy no! only productive work will happen in communism, such as producing iron smelters, machine lubricants and thermonuclear weapons
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Oct 19, 2014 14:34
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gently caress you, got mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv3xYaAjxZI
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Oct 20, 2014 05:03
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Lenin, now in chocolate form. By that I mean chocolate cake 
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Oct 20, 2014 05:26
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communism.mpeg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcPYrjzSRL8
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Oct 20, 2014 05:29
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marxism-leninism.avi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyF5tbN8iXw
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Oct 20, 2014 07:36
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Jack of Hearts posted:Marx was fixated on the idea that his philosophy was not utopian but rather scientific. Deny him his clear historical precedent and what's left?
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Oct 20, 2014 07:44
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Oberleutnant posted:i dont know what this is but is has "anarcho" which sounds scary and "syndicalism" which makes me think of the cyberpunk game syndicate wars which did NOT seem like a good society to live in. so i will disagree and say that it sounds bad and uncool, but we can agree to disagreee gotta get some new chrome so i can jack into the zaibatsu syndicate.
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Oct 24, 2014 13:45
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the idea that life is fundamentally ugly and miserable has got to be a recipe for depression, life can be improved. but go back and read trotsky where he goes on insane megalomaniacal rants about mass collective experiments and creating superhumans. that's the utopian drive off a cliff. i have a sense modern day communists (or the ones that are still out there) are embarrassed by this approach, and don't talk like that so much anymore
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Oct 24, 2014 13:57
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Effectronica posted:I have a sense that you think other people are inherently less real or at least stupider than you are, and that you're probably vaguely unpleasant to be around as a consequence.
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Oct 24, 2014 14:03
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that's probably true though
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Oct 24, 2014 14:04
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 A Stalin impersonator and a Lenin impersonator divvy up the cash they have made from posing with tourists in Moscow
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Oct 24, 2014 14:16
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ThisGuy posted:It's like a negative feedback loop on internet message boards because everyone has their personal favorite favorite philosopher or writer or pornstar or whatever. And they hold THE SECRET ANSWER TO IT ALL.
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