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Applewhite posted:Marxism-Lenininsm is grabage and its adherents are human garbage. Stalinism was not an aberration but a logical evolution of M-L policies. wrong
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Applewhite posted:lol you're right under communism I wouldn't be crying in the shower because I would have no running water. what communist societies failed to provide water lol
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Oct 16, 2014 18:48
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20th century communism failed p badly in a lot of ways but water infrastructure was not one of them
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Man Whore posted:The USSR got its rear end kicked by fuckin finland. I own a finnish rifle and its loving cobbled together from WWI and captured soviet parts to put that in perspective. it then kileld the nazis and took over half of europe and made hitler cry and kill himself so
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Applewhite posted:Dude I used to be way into communism back in the day. All reading Marx and such. I even had one of those chinese hats and an authentic Little Red Book from China. Then I actually looked at how the "ideals" of communism have only ever been used by extremely evil men to scam millions of people. Saying "Communism is a good idea in theory" is very much akin to how "homeopathic medicine is a good idea in theory." lol
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Oct 16, 2014 19:23
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Applewhite posted:I have no illusions about how big a poser I was. luckily you were saved from poserdom by accepting the light of capitalism and police killin black people
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Oct 16, 2014 19:25
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Omi-Polari posted:what i don't get is how commies in these threads always talk about how you can't bring up the USSR and a bunch of other failed communist states, but then on a dime they also praise those states for their amazing achievements until the world ran in the opposite direction as fast as it could. the economic successes of the soviet union which were pretty amazing for several decades prove that central planning can function as an alternative to capitalism. that doesnt mean the soviet union didnt suck in a multitude of other ways
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Applewhite posted:I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Also, you're cool and we should be friends. truly goon friend your libertarian words intrigue me might i also subscribe to your newsletter?? 
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paranoid randroid posted:as a counterpoint, id like to point out that the wealthy are swine and should be slaughtered with pangas. double plus literally unironically. being run over by a boat would be pretty sweet way to kill the rich yeah
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PrinceRandom posted:Man central Asia was screwed hardcore by Soviets. The Great Taming of Nature constructed such lovely irrigation channels that over 80% of the water was lost before anyone could use it. thats why central asia basically begged to stay in the soviet union
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PrinceRandom posted:Weird that state appointed dictators would want to stay with the state?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_referendum,_1991
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Applewhite posted:Sorry, the only USSR I know of was a nightmarish police state where the government was absolute, upward mobility was impossible, poverty was widespread and inescapable and the threat of arbitrary arrest by an unaccountable secret police force dangled over the head of every citizen like the Sword of Damocles. upward mobility was impossible in a communist society 
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Oct 16, 2014 22:16
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could i get absurdly lucky and make billions speculating on the market with my inherited millions in the USSR? No? Talk about hell on earth
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Applewhite posted:You wanna know my honest opinion? youre a dumb dude
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Oct 16, 2014 22:21
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Me? I like the idea of a militaristic hierarchy. I'd enjoy knowing exactly where I stand in that hierarchy. I like having a boss I can turn to and say "what should I do?" when I'm lost and I'd like knowing there are also people beneath me who have to follow my instructions. I like not having to always think about what I'm doing, but still feel productive. I also like the idea of a social ladder that can be climbed according to specific rules and methods executable by anyone.
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francisco franco did nothing wrong....
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pinochet was pinogreat!
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Applewhite posted:There are too many rags-to-riches stories in the US for me to take claims like that seriously. lol u so dum
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Applewhite posted:Yeah I often heard about how Caesar used to go around handing out railroad and oil magnate jobs to poor kids on riverboats. so very dumb
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Applewhite do u consider yourself an iron piller
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zizek is fine if you dont take him too seriously
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Crow_Rodeo posted:lol the Warhammer Furry just admitted to literally wanting to live in the 40k Universe. Have you even been in the loving military so you know what it is you're asking for? he admitted he was a teen communist because he bought a che shirt or something. hes very dumb and very funny
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Oct 16, 2014 23:21
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my texas hs history teacher went over the labor movement only because he was literally the head of the houston teacher union and a hard core democrat and im pretty sure with most other texas teachers id have never heard about it. he also made us read a people's history which was good and cool
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Oct 16, 2014 23:23
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Applewhite posted:Yeah I got carried away. Communism just makes me so drat mad I often end up arguing too far in the other direction just to be contrary. ah cool literal fbi propaganda from the 40s lol
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Oct 16, 2014 23:26
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wow these reds really get me in a tizzy have you HEARD there might be soviet agents in the state department??? boy howdy i hope we whip em over in korea
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Man Whore posted:As a Socialist I am fine with authoritarian communists being hung on lamp-posts along with the rich. you misspelled dumb liberal
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Oct 16, 2014 23:29
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Ambrose Burnside posted:novy gibbis marxothreads are a very special thing; not because theyre fun to read or post in, b/c they are not, but its like some kind of prehistoric solstice drama, where the new moon is met with a thread about commies and then the rickety old bones of laissez faire rise up and engage in honourable ceremonial warfare with middle america dadreckons about human nature and But Nobody WOuld Work If You Gave Them Free Things once again. lf is dead, and yet it still posts first as tragedy then as farce
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icantfindaname posted:i think reformist social democracy, or at the very least democratic socialism, is a better idea than marxism-leninism you think wrong
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icantfindaname posted:You're not even a real person, what do you know? Alpha Centauri was a lovely game to begin with how can one poster be so wrong
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disliking alpha centauri disturbs me more than goony neofascism
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icantfindaname posted:no you don't seem to get it, india and brazil didn't actually participate in that system, because they both refused to back in the day. india and brazil both refused foreign capital and investment, and dabbled in central planning, and hey look 70 years later they're still dirt poor. these are related. they've opened up to capital (sort of, not entirely) in the last 20 years or so, but compare ~50 years of no capitalism to ~15 years of sort of capitalism and you can't really say the end result is capitalism's fault hm yeah india and brazil dont participate in global capitalism im a fuckiung tard baby
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if you sincerely think india or brazil are socialist states and you cant blame capitalism for their poverty while upholding china as a triumph of capitalism you should admit youre a tard baby. china has by far a more centralized and regulated economy with much more extensive social welfare programs than both those countries
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icantfindaname posted:no you don't seem to get it, india and brazil didn't actually participate in that system, because they both refused to back in the day. india and brazil both refused foreign capital and investment, and dabbled in central planning, and hey look 70 years later they're still dirt poor. these are related. they've opened up to capital (sort of, not entirely) in the last 20 years or so, but compare ~50 years of no capitalism to ~15 years of sort of capitalism and you can't really say the end result is capitalism's fault like seirously how can you say this, how can a person pretend they know things and say this. at what point was brazil or india no capitalism ever? at most nehru had mildly socialistic aspirations and vargas was social democratic and was in power a total of less than a decade but lol at "~50 years of no capitalism to ~15 years of sort of capitalism". you could actualyl say that about china but not brazil and india you loving dumbo
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remember when that guy said brazil and india were not capitalist in any way for 50 years in the 20th century and thats why, unlike china, they were poor lmao
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Throwdini posted:the communists tried to stop ww1 from happening they thought they could get working people to care about human life more than they care about the dumb flag that was in the geographical area they got borned into haha wwi is the only reason communism become anything more than the radical wing of the labor movement and took over half the world
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