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Are there any creatures on this planet, besides humans, who are intelligent enough to consider the bigger picture, and realise that their existence and habitat were provided for by some higher being?
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:38 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 07:26 |
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maybe elephants or dolphins in a really vague sense if they are taken care of by humans
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:40 |
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HJB posted:Are there any creatures on this planet, besides humans, who are intelligent enough to consider the bigger picture, and realise that their existence and habitat were provided for by some higher being?
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:40 |
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no that's why they're all burning in hell even Lassie burns in hell Obama's dog will burn in hell
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:41 |
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yes although it's a different god but it's still shaped like a human being
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:41 |
HJB posted:Are there any creatures on this planet, besides humans, who are intelligent enough to consider the bigger picture, and realise that their existence and habitat were provided for by some higher being? Yes. I had an enlightening sign-language conversation on theology with an orangutan just a week ago, and the zoo is planning on setting up a panel conversation with an bonobo, a pig with a vocal interpreter, and a new caledonian crow with a pencil. I believe that they also have plans to teleconference in one of the elephants as well.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:42 |
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Anyone remember that episode of X-Files where Sophie the gorilla gets abducted by aliens? lol the gently caress is that about
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:45 |
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well. superstitious psychology is probably an evolutionary trait, and animals definitely project their cute lil animal traits, so in terms of god as just a personification of superstition, I imagine there are some animals out there with at least a vague sense of a supernatural force to be appeased, and god as a creator is just the personification of the mystery of cosmological origin, so assuming there's an animal that wonders where it came from, that's probably in there, too. so I'd go "yes, maybe" dolphins and bonobos seem to have their poo poo together, generally, it's probably happened once or twice.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:51 |
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if they are mammals and have ingested LSD, yes.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 21:51 |
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Dolphins, elephants and bonobos all appear to be enlightened then. Excellent news.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 22:13 |
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Cats probably think that they're the gods
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:31 |
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Pigeons believe in magic. That's actually proven experimentally, by putting them in a box with a button. When pressing the button, food falls out. They learn how that works pretty quickly. If you then disable the button and just randomly drop food in, they will start doing random poo poo, like pecking the corners or doing a little dance. They repeat whatever they did the last time food dropped out until food drops out again. So yeah, pigeon prayer.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:35 |
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This is actually a good argument against Atheists (the non-militant ones open to debate, at least). If lower animals have no concept of a higher power/G*d but humans do, what does that say about the validity of this belief?
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:36 |
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Cardiovorax posted:Pigeons believe in magic. That's actually proven experimentally, by putting them in a box with a button. When pressing the button, food falls out. They learn how that works pretty quickly. If you then disable the button and just randomly drop food in, they will start doing random poo poo, like pecking the corners or doing a little dance. They repeat whatever they did the last time food dropped out until food drops out again. Isn't that just conditioning?
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:37 |
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SurfinArbiter posted:Isn't that just conditioning?
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:40 |
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Every living creatures in the world except human beings praise the creator the one and only ALLAH. Allah says in Qur'an "We will show them Our signs in all the regions of the earth and in their own souls, until they clearly see that this is the truth ..." (Surah Fussilat, 41:53). Still the greatest of all miracles and the miracle of miracles is Al Qurán (The words of almighty) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sPBSAW5Qc
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:41 |
Cardiovorax posted:Pigeons believe in magic. That's actually proven experimentally, by putting them in a box with a button. When pressing the button, food falls out. They learn how that works pretty quickly. If you then disable the button and just randomly drop food in, they will start doing random poo poo, like pecking the corners or doing a little dance. They repeat whatever they did the last time food dropped out until food drops out again. This is just inductive reasoning, duder.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:44 |
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Effectronica posted:This is just inductive reasoning, duder.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:48 |
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Race Hate Kramer posted:Anyone remember that episode of X-Files where Sophie the gorilla gets abducted by aliens? i thought you were going to talk about the one where Scully's dog Queequeg gets eaten by the Loch Ness.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:51 |
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I was watching a youtube today and they were talking about gorillas who can communicate via sign language and apperently they never once ever ever ever asked a question so no they probably don't think about god.
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# ? Oct 19, 2014 23:58 |
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Gazpacho posted:Every living creatures in the world except human beings praise the creator the one and only ALLAH. Allah says in Qur'an "We will show them Our signs in all the regions of the earth and in their own souls, until they clearly see that this is the truth ..." (Surah Fussilat, 41:53). Still the greatest of all miracles and the miracle of miracles is Al Qurán (The words of almighty) The cow in that video is saying Toulouse, clearly it wants a short vacation
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# ? Oct 20, 2014 00:09 |
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Yes, but only sheep
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# ? Oct 20, 2014 00:10 |
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my guess is animals believe in food. whoever happens to have food and is willing to give them it could be a god.
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# ? Oct 20, 2014 00:16 |
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HJB posted:Are there any creatures on this planet, besides humans, who are intelligent enough to consider the bigger picture, and realise that their existence and habitat were provided for by some higher being? yeah
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