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LordHippoman
May 30, 2013

I, frankly, want this smug Jagen to be my avatar on all forms of social media immediately.
Both are pretty good games that are stuck in the terrible trap of "infested with people who play LoL/DOTA".

And you have to play with them unless you want to go full hermit and play bots for the rest of your life or can gather 9 friends everytime you want to play.

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The Grumbles
Jun 5, 2006



One other reason dota owns is that the lead designer is basically the thomas pynchon of video games, nobody knows anything about him, what he looks like, his background. even his real name is basically just a rumour

Broniki
Sep 2, 2009

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League of Legends: lots of straight, heterosexual porn. ladies and breasts, women.

Dota 2: lots of gay porn, big meaty hairy men, gay bears and sometimes literal gay bears, fish boy anus being pounded by satan himself.

dota

Lets! Get! Weird!
Aug 18, 2012

Black King Bazinga

The Grumbles posted:

One thing I 'like' about Dota 2 is it's still got a load of weird quirks in the client and a general lack of QA, like there's no standardization for how things are explained in tooltips for example. Or the 'accept match' button sometimes doesn't work and needs a few clicks. Even though unlike the Warcraft 3 mod the client is specifically built for Dota there are a ton of these seams showing where it seems like valve don't really give a poo poo about the whole thing feeling super polished. In that sense it keeps the 'my friend's eccentric dad made this in the garage' spirit of the original Warcraft 3 mod very much alive

Sadly LoL captures that vibe a lot better...a strike against dota.

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Videogame tribalism ooga boots where the rylais @

Turpitude
Oct 13, 2004

Love love love

be an organ donor
Soiled Meat
i used to play lol but I saw the light and smite is so much more fun and better and more gooder. ppl dont rage at every tiny mistake, they chill and spam funny voice commands and there are like 5 fun modes instead of summoners rift over and over and every day there is a gimmick mode like one where everyone plays the same god. i decided to take a lil break one day and play a game of lol and was immediately disgusted by everything everyone on both teams said, people talk 100% in stupid meme speak and hate on each other until they force losses. lol players are dumb fuckers.

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

Both games are terrible in their own unique way, so who cares.

Every other MOBA tries to imitate these two, so they are even worse.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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smite is basically league except all the doofy-rear end decisions make more sense when used for that game. also there's less monetization poo poo, in that rune pages don't exist. the only real con is the loving horrible art design

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

The Grumbles posted:

One thing I 'like' about Dota 2 is it's still got a load of weird quirks in the client and a general lack of QA, like there's no standardization for how things are explained in tooltips for example. Or the 'accept match' button sometimes doesn't work and needs a few clicks. Even though unlike the Warcraft 3 mod the client is specifically built for Dota there are a ton of these seams showing where it seems like valve don't really give a poo poo about the whole thing feeling super polished. In that sense it keeps the 'my friend's eccentric dad made this in the garage' spirit of the original Warcraft 3 mod very much alive

I don't think you've ever played LoL. I know they deliberately programmed glitches into DotA2 that were in the original W3 map, but every week Riot will unintentionally completely break at least 1 champion and have to disable them. Sometimes for months at a time.

There's the old rumor that the entire terrain is made up of invisible Teemo's too. :tinfoil:

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

I still don't understand why dota is the only one to do the "all characters are free no exceptions" thing

Bholder
Feb 26, 2013

AlmightyBob posted:

I still don't understand why dota is the only one to do the "all characters are free no exceptions" thing

Dota is the only one with hats

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Smite sells a full game pack that includes every hero in continutiyyyty

Vermain
Sep 5, 2006



AlmightyBob posted:

I still don't understand why dota is the only one to do the "all characters are free no exceptions" thing

Either a desire for money or uncertainty over the viability of something like a cosmetics-only microtransaction model is what drove a lot of it. League came out at a time when F2P models were still an incredibly sketchy deal in the West. The first big F2P success (Dungeons and Dragons Online) had only made the transition in 2009, the year of League's release, and even that was mostly about paying to open up content. Valve was confident that they could make DotA 2 the way it was because it already had a guaranteed user base and the metrics/infrastructure from TF2 that would make a cosmetics-only microtransaction model financially viable.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Normal Adult Human posted:

Smite sells a full game pack that includes every hero in continutiyyyty


Agent Kool-Aid posted:

smite is basically league except all the doofy-rear end decisions make more sense when used for that game. also there's less monetization poo poo, in that rune pages don't exist. the only real con is the loving horrible art design

it's really pathetic how smite players try to pass themselves off as being totally different than those other MOBAs.

here's a hint: you're not, your game's poo poo like all other MOBAs. please get a job and some real hobbies

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

LoL has something like 10 million players
Dota 2 has tournaments with like 10 million dollars in prize money

So the answer is kill yourself for thinking about playing one of these poo poo games

Walkin Goon
Apr 4, 2011
5 pages overdue but

dota is better, LoL players won't deny.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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icantfindaname posted:

it's really pathetic how smite players try to pass themselves off as being totally different than those other MOBAs.

here's a hint: you're not, your game's poo poo like all other MOBAs. please get a job and some real hobbies

i know you're trying to be edgy for the cool kids but i mostly play dota if i play any farts game at all. hth

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

icantfindaname posted:

it's really pathetic how smite players try to pass themselves off as being totally different than those other MOBAs.

here's a hint: you're not, your game's poo poo like all other MOBAs. please get a job and some real hobbies

What's a real hobby?

I enjoy painting sometimes and other times I like to do some woodworking. Can gaming be a hobby?

Broniki
Sep 2, 2009

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MOBAs are a sport so by playing them you actually have a cool hobby just like skiing or boxing.

hobocrunch
Mar 11, 2008

I'm walkin' here
Valve is based, Riot is not.

What else can you say..?

Eye of Widesauron
Mar 29, 2014

Yeah, what about E-Sports? Is either more or less suited to them than the other for those who care about things like E-Sports?

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010
can someone post the forums post some LoL designer wrote about how their 6-year-old girl character needed to have her panties showing, because changing it would ruin their artistic integrity?

thanks in advance

Hiveminded
Aug 26, 2014

Broniki posted:

League of Legends: lots of straight, heterosexual porn. ladies and breasts, women.

Dota 2: lots of gay porn, big meaty hairy men, gay bears and sometimes literal gay bears, fish boy anus being pounded by satan himself.

dota

dota is superior, yes

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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writing is a cool hobby

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

icantfindaname posted:

it's really pathetic how smite players try to pass themselves off as being totally different than those other MOBAs.

here's a hint: you're not, your game's poo poo like all other MOBAs. please get a job and some real hobbies

Smite has thousands of years of fanart and many of the greatest artists in history have dedicated their lives to epic smite win. The guy who makes lol hero splashes is an inflation fetishist.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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little munchkin posted:

can someone post the forums post some LoL designer wrote about how their 6-year-old girl character needed to have her panties showing, because changing it would ruin their artistic integrity?

thanks in advance

ANNIE'S PANTIES

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
So did the guys post pix of how they invented lol characters and own the developer or is it one of those things where every time anybody is successful at anything somebody else tries to take credit for it and/or sue them because they're either a liar or a retard who thinks they created the concept of orcs or whatever

SD87
Jun 7, 2011
Mother fuckers i was playing dota when you could choose the loving siege tank and leagues is a better game

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
i play lol cause my friend play it but to be fair their both poo poo games that are horrible

Samog
Dec 13, 2006
At least I'm not an 07.

Widestancer posted:

What's a real hobby?

Antimage

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Broniki posted:

Dota 2: lots of gay porn, big meaty hairy men, gay bears and sometimes literal gay bears, fish boy anus being pounded by satan himself.

I hope you're saying this is a positive

stringball
Mar 17, 2009


FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
i dont think either are butter, op

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Widestancer posted:

Yeah, what about E-Sports? Is either more or less suited to them than the other for those who care about things like E-Sports?

Please, they're called Digital-Sports nowadays.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Please, they're called Digital-Sports nowadays.

DIGITAL SPORTS

Koguma
Sep 1, 2007

One of the Big Seven !!

Clinkster
Sep 9, 2012

No one does it better than S2 games did for HoN.

http://www.twitch.tv/honcast/b/392108835?t=12m30s

BigLeafyTree
Oct 21, 2010


Imagine the body you would have if you had exercised in all the time you instead used for MOBAs

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
Where I'm currently living, the international routing from my ISP is terrible so I can't get a consistently good ping to the DOTA servers. There are LoL and HoN servers in this country that I can ping nicely to, so I decided to give them a try.

I played LoL for a little while before I started DOTA, so I was already familiar with it, but going back isn't very fun. The major differences:

* Sound design - this is probably the biggest. All of DOTA's abilities and heros have really nice voicework and sound design. I've been playing Annie a bit in LoL, and it's really hard sometimes to even tell if my stun has landed because there's no decent feedback. Compared to something like Sven's AoE stun, the gulf in quality is huge.

* Item design - LoL's items are really boring.

* Masteries and rune pages - it's a complete pain in the rear end to remember which is which and to fiddle around with them all the time depending on which hero you feel like playing. Also a massive grind.

* The Adobe Air client is just poo poo and clunky. Why the gently caress are they still using this? Also, why does the game take so long to load?



I've only played a couple of games of HoN so far, so I can't say too much about it yet, but it feels more similar to DOTA, just with a much worse UI. Seriously, the UI is horrible.

Compared to both games, DOTA just has a 'crisper' feel to it, especially when it comes to last-hitting. I played the guy in HoN who is like Juggernaut, and it was really hard to tell at which point in his animation the hit actually lands. Aural feedback plays quite a big part in this again, I think.

In LoL, there's this weird delay between when hits land and when HP is lost. This has nothing to do with latency and just seems to be a part of the engine. It's most obvious when towers hit you - it feels like it takes a full half second for your HP to update.

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stringball
Mar 17, 2009

Dota has a ton of servers with no region locking now btw if that was ever a deterrent

IIRC you get one account per region and nothing transfers over to a new region locked LoL account

Did leauge ever add replays, voice chat, ingame tournament watching, custom games, community market?

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