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pasaluki posted:I didn't like Trubel at first but now she's the best character besides Monroe. I think the main difference between Trubel and Nick is that Nick has been trained to go through due process and as an officer of the law it would be kind of bad if he just went and slashed some guys tires (to be fair, because Nick also has said job as a detective he isn't as aware of these things as Trubel is), whereas Trubel has been in and out of mental hospitals AND has killed how many people since her Grimm aspect awoke? Trubel gives no fucks about law and order and yes the show is better for it.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 09:33 |
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This episode was leaps and bounds better than previous, but I was surprised to see so many comments and no one point out what I thought was an obvious plan for the writers: Josh and Trubel get together. Whether he Grimms or not, she will become his lover and savior and they can go off to wherever they go off to and be written out of the show. Why else bring Josh back? He is either going to be a Grimm, or he will become Adalind-level/Juliette-coma of annoying levels with his innocence of and perplexed amazement of everything his dad tried to tell him about. "I don't have any idea how to use [a machete]!" poo poo. I am dreading his character's reappearance already.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 12:29 |
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JD Bucks 7 posted:This episode was leaps and bounds better than previous, but I was surprised to see so many comments and no one point out what I thought was an obvious plan for the writers: Josh and Trubel get together. Whether he Grimms or not, she will become his lover and savior and they can go off to wherever they go off to and be written out of the show. Why else bring Josh back? He is either going to be a Grimm, or he will become Adalind-level/Juliette-coma of annoying levels with his innocence of and perplexed amazement of everything his dad tried to tell him about. I think a lot of people did comment on it, and yeah, that's probably happening to the extreme hindrance of the show going forward.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 16:04 |
Why does everyone keep coming up with the idea that Trubel is going to be written out? I'm going to go against the flow and say she isn't.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 17:15 |
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hollylolly posted:Why does everyone keep coming up with the idea that Trubel is going to be written out? I'm going to go against the flow and say she isn't. I hope she sticks around and starts getting bit parts in action movies.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 17:23 |
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Accretionist posted:I hope she sticks around and starts getting bit parts in action movies. If thru ever make a movie on the Mistborn series she's exactly what I pictured for the Vin character.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 17:42 |
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hollylolly posted:Why does everyone keep coming up with the idea that Trubel is going to be written out? I'm going to go against the flow and say she isn't. Because Jacqueline Toboni is only credited as a guest star in her second season. It could be a case of an incompetent agent, but if they planned to use her in most of the episodes she should have full cast status. Since she doesn't have it, odds are good she's going to disappear in the next two episodes, either permanently or until the season finale.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 18:09 |
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Jedit posted:Because Jacqueline Toboni is only credited as a guest star in her second season. It could be a case of an incompetent agent, but if they planned to use her in most of the episodes she should have full cast status. Since she doesn't have it, odds are good she's going to disappear in the next two episodes, either permanently or until the season finale. Amber Benson was on Buffy for almost three full seasons and was credited as a guest star until her final episode.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 18:13 |
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Do guest stars get paid less? She is rather new to the industry, right?
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 18:32 |
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ETB posted:Do guest stars get paid less? She is rather new to the industry, right? Just checked the original article I read about how she got the role. I didn't know if she had graduated college yet or not. At the time of that article, they expected her to graduate with her class, so she shouldn't have had to take time off of shooting to finish this season. Accretionist posted:I hope she sticks around and starts getting bit parts in action movies. Here's an article from May about how awesome the cast is. The site makes you answer 2 questions in order to read the article, which is loving annoying. I just thought it was cool that Sasha Roiz loaned her his bike. quote:Sasha Roiz, who plays Captain Renard on "Grimm," "lent me his bike, so I was able to get around. I'm thankful to the people there for, number one keeping it weird, and just for welcome me with open arms." Bored fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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Bored posted:Yes. She is loving awesome to watch fight. She's actually certified in stage combat!
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 22:48 |
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Accretionist posted:She's actually certified in stage combat! I wonder how much she's taught the rest of the crew, namely Nick.
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# ? Dec 2, 2014 22:55 |
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Accretionist posted:She's actually certified in stage combat! I know. I actually searched for that after her fight with whatever-the-shoplifting-monster-was. I was like,"She is awesome at this and dancers usually don't even make fight choreography look that awesome. What is her background that she is so good at this?" She actually puts a lot of power into the choreography and I don't think I've seen a woman, even in action films, put that kind of power into fight choreography before. I thought it was really cool. She gives the moves weight, is what I mean, if that makes sense. Like, last week, I was watching Nick fight to try to figure out if he makes the moves look as awesome. But I think they choreograph differently for him, which makes sense for the character as well as the actor, so it was difficult to say. It was still an awesome fight scene, but didn't make me think,"gently caress, he is awesome," like Trubels fight scenes do. Bored fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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Bored posted:She gives the moves weight, is what I mean, if that makes sense. Absolutely, it looks like if she missed there'd be a stunt guy taking the rest of the day off. It's much, much better than seeing another poor actress in high heels trying not to fall over during high kicks. Accretionist fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Dec 3, 2014 |
# ? Dec 3, 2014 00:41 |
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When Trouble first showed up, I wasn't expecting to like her. I assumed it was going to be the classic cliche of the insane, evil character who shows the hero how he himself could have turned out if he had made the wrong choices and fell to the dark side. I thought she'd be all broody and dark, refuse to be a team player, snap at anyone's attempts to help her or befriend her. I've seen that character so many times before, and I'm so tired of that character. And that's just what she was... for maybe one episode. Then instead, she started to grow in a refreshingly realistic way, and sidestepped most of the dark, broody angst I had been expecting and dreading. She's great. And yeah, her action scenes look great. They actually cast someone who could sell a fight scene, and it makes all the difference.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 00:58 |
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JD Bucks 7 posted:This episode was leaps and bounds better than previous, but I was surprised to see so many comments and no one point out what I thought was an obvious plan for the writers: Josh and Trubel get together. Whether he Grimms or not, she will become his lover and savior and they can go off to wherever they go off to and be written out of the show. Why else bring Josh back? He is either going to be a Grimm, or he will become Adalind-level/Juliette-coma of annoying levels with his innocence of and perplexed amazement of everything his dad tried to tell him about. Well, or they could actually be advancing the key plot. Maybe.
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JD Bucks 7 posted:I was surprised to see so many comments and no one point out what I thought was an obvious plan for the writers: Josh and Trubel get together. Whether he Grimms or not, she will become his lover and savior and they can go off to wherever they go off to and be written out of the show. Is this sarcasm? I've been reading the tumblr thread and I can't quite tell if you are serious about this or not.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 03:41 |
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Thank Christ for a good Grimm episode. It's been a while. The actor doing Josh, as well as the character seemed much more on the ball this time. I really liked the interplay between him and Trubel in Nick's house. His fear was a unrealistic, Buffy-type of fear. Very "Oh, I'm so afraid right now, but still funny".Still, at least he was emoting all over the place instead of being so bland. I don't really mind him starting out as a Shaggie-type character who turns Grimm somewhere down the road. thotsky fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Dec 4, 2014 |
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Sash! posted:Is this sarcasm? I've been reading the tumblr thread and I can't quite tell if you are serious about this or not. CTRL+F on page 5 give me nothing. page 6 gives me people thinking that he will magically be a Grimm. So, yea, "they" discussed Josh, but not in the sense he is a weak rear end "I don't even know how to use a machete" (spoiler: you swing it) and I don't see him and Trubel hitting it off absent her protecting him, or him becoming a Grimm. Not much of what people discussed, which, sadly is all of 5 goons, so we know where the show's ratings are ultimately going. BTW: Is having an SA account now tied to reading or giving a poo poo about Tumblr? If so, i didn't get the memo. JD Bucks 7 fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Dec 4, 2014 |
# ? Dec 4, 2014 03:54 |
I think he's saying that the Trubel + Josh theory you propose as 'obvious' is terrible and sounds like something a tumblr shipper came up with (he's been reading the SA thread about tumbr recently and couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not). But I could be wrong!
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# ? Dec 4, 2014 21:07 |
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hollylolly posted:I think he's saying that the Trubel + Josh theory you propose as 'obvious' is terrible and sounds like something a tumblr shipper came up with (he's been reading the SA thread about tumbr recently and couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not). You are correct!
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 02:25 |
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I can't see Theresa having any romantic interest in Josh. Or even non-romantic interest in Josh. Outside of Nick, the person Theresa seems to care about the most is Juliette, likely because Juliette feeds her and bullies her into clothes shopping on Juliette's dime. Also, Juliette once beat the holy living gently caress out of a Klaustreich, so the two can bond over that.
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 10:39 |
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4x07 – “The Grimm Who Stole Christmas” Nick, Hank, Monroe, and Rosalee search for a trio of mischief-making Wesen who are drawn to destroying Christmas decorations. I'm pretty sure this is the Fall Finale. Also the timeline for Grimm must be all over the map, because only a short time has passed since Monroe and Rosalee's wedding, and wasn't that supposed to be in the Spring?
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 19:02 |
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I'd guess we're getting at least one or two more episodes, because 7 is really early for a fall finale.
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 19:05 |
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According to Wikipedia the midseason finale is next week and then the show's back January 9th. Can't complain about that, considering some of the big gaps between episodes this show has had before.
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 19:11 |
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There's at least one more new Grimm coming next week.
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 19:37 |
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johntfs posted:There's at least one more new Grimm coming next week. Okay. I was only basing my guess on the fact that it seems like this would be the Christmas episode, and it would seem odd to have another episode afterwards. I guess that one could still be set before Christmas, though.
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# ? Dec 5, 2014 23:08 |
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I'm going to be really sad when that train turns out to be an omen.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 03:04 |
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"...so there's actually a reason for fruitcake" This show.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 03:36 |
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Grimm Season 4: "...so there's actually a reason for fruitcake." Nooooooo, Trubel, don't leave! legoman727 fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 6, 2014 |
# ? Dec 6, 2014 03:45 |
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Oh gently caress you show.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 04:12 |
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Fruitcake owns. gently caress you, Grimm.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 04:47 |
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I was wondering where that car went. But oh no I don't wanna see it leave like that
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 05:12 |
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hollylolly posted:Why does everyone keep coming up with the idea that Trubel is going to be written out? I'm going to go against the flow and say she isn't. Bored posted:Is this sarcasm? I've been reading the tumblr thread and I can't quite tell if you are serious about this or not. hollylolly posted:I think he's saying that the Trubel + Josh theory you propose as 'obvious' is terrible and sounds like something a tumblr shipper came up with (he's been reading the SA thread about tumbr recently and couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or not). johntfs posted:I can't see Theresa having any romantic interest in Josh. Or even non-romantic interest in Josh. Outside of Nick, the person Theresa seems to care about the most is Juliette, likely because Juliette feeds her and bullies her into clothes shopping on Juliette's dime. Also, Juliette once beat the holy living gently caress out of a Klaustreich, so the two can bond over that. I'm laughing at this point because it's easier to laugh than rage. Clearly there's only no romantic interest because the writers were in too much of a hurry to get Trubel off the show to develop even that much. We thought "No, the writers can't possibly be that bad at their jobs". Surprise! They might be that bad at their jobs. Honestly, am I going to come back to this show after the winter break? I dunno. Maybe? poo poo. Trubel was a desperately needed breath of fresh air, and the writers just kind of shrugged and hastily wrote her off. Maybe she'll come back for Special Appearances down the line, but I guess they didn't want her on the main cast for reasons. loving christ, Monroe and Rosalee are the last things on the show that regularly show up that I actually enjoy watching more often than not. Are we just, like, deciding to drop FBI Conspiracy Birdcop Plot? I mean, I wouldn't be that surprised given Grimm's tentative and distrustful approach to continuity, but that seems like a lot of effort to be tossed out with Trubel. That's literally the only thing giving me hope that this might be a grand fakeout, which would be Really loving Stupid but not as Really loving Stupid as actually getting rid of the character outright. But no, I guess we've got to free up more time for loving Adalind in Vienna. gently caress this show.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 05:14 |
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Mukaikubo posted:I'm laughing at this point because it's easier to laugh than rage. Clearly there's only no romantic interest because the writers were in too much of a hurry to get Trubel off the show to develop even that much. We thought "No, the writers can't possibly be that bad at their jobs". Surprise! They might be that bad at their jobs. Honestly, am I going to come back to this show after the winter break? I dunno. Maybe? poo poo. Trubel was a desperately needed breath of fresh air, and the writers just kind of shrugged and hastily wrote her off. Maybe she'll come back for Special Appearances down the line, but I guess they didn't want her on the main cast for reasons. loving christ, Monroe and Rosalee are the last things on the show that regularly show up that I actually enjoy watching more often than not. Pretty sure nobody would have given him a hard time if he hadn't said they were going to be "lovers". I even went back after he was so baffled by my response to make sure I didn't misread that he thought they were going to become romantically involved. I still don't think they are saying that Truble and Josh are gonna hook-up, that way. All of the posts your quoted said that Truble will not likely be sleeping with Josh because that is weird. The posts said nothing about Truble leaving the show and the writers using Josh as an excuse. It was a weird comment. It is weird when people automatically jump to the conclusion that when two single people talk, they will soon be loving. Also. You need to calm down. The actress might have other work to do and this was the easiest way the writers could think to write her off for the moment. For the most part, this show has been very good at writing against our expectations, which is one of the reasons I like it. Bored fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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Maybe they'll give her and Josh screentime? I'd be pretty happy if they ripped off Supernatural for a few episodes and then had some 'Filmed on location in Philadelphia!' action.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 08:46 |
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The best part about this week was no Adalind. Trubel leaving is a major disappointment though (but hey, Wu will finally learn what's what next week. You'd also think that Nick would have by this point just scanned all his books rather than going out to the trailer every other five minutes.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 13:48 |
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This show is called GRIMM, not Grimms. Of course Trubbel was temporary until Nick was re-powered. Maybe her leaving will allow Wu's storyline to be resolved...naw, probably not.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 14:35 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:
Digital databases/libraries aren't necessarily fully secure and there's probably quite a few secrets in the Grimm journals that need to stay secret. Magic aside, it's pretty goddam difficult to "hack" paper. Theresa will be missed, but hopefully she can return later in the season (probably being chased by Royal assassins) or maybe get her own Grimm spin-off next fall. I liked that we got one last dose of her "Let's get this poo poo done" attitude in her locating the Wesen KKK. I also liked her "We're Grimms. Can't we just go over there now and stomp these fuckers into a mudhole already?" I'm wondering if Juliette's actually pregnant and if it'll turn into some weird fast-growing Hexengrimm superbaby. johntfs fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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johntfs posted:Digital databases/libraries aren't necessarily fully secure and there's probably quite a few secrets in the Grimm journals that need to stay secret. Magic aside, it's pretty goddam difficult to "hack" paper. Who said it had to be networked? You'd need to physical access then, which compromises books all the same. Point being that Team Grimm needs an IT guy. I wonder how Wu is with computers?
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