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best RTS of 1997 is...... This poll is closed. |
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| Total Annihilation |
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42 | 22.58% |
| StarCraft |
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31 | 16.67% |
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31 | 16.67% |
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28 | 15.05% |
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54 | 29.03% |
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obviously Total Annihilation is the really innovative and awesome RTS game of 1997!!
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Oct 20, 2014 23:23
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starcraft is ok
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Oct 20, 2014 23:30
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Ok.
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Oct 20, 2014 23:33
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Parallax Scroll posted:starcraft is ok
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Oct 20, 2014 23:59
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op is dumb but total a was very cool
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Oct 21, 2014 00:15
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that cloud is loving adorable
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Oct 21, 2014 00:20
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but you see, 12 units is a massive part of the gameplay, and letting you select more makes it impossible to do any micro
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Oct 21, 2014 01:17
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I too like slamming giant balls of soliders into eachother over and over, that's why instead of RTS I just play with plastic soliders.
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Oct 21, 2014 01:38
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yeah it's too bad you can only select a giant ball and nothing else ever :/ what were they thinking
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Oct 21, 2014 01:39
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Looks like only two people on this forum know how to vote on checkbox polls correctly.
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Oct 21, 2014 01:39
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darealkooky posted:I too like slamming giant balls of soliders into eachother over and over, that's why instead of RTS I just play with plastic soliders. this pretends that SC wasn't famous for things like Zergling Rushes or Mass Carriers. hell they might not have been pro level korean strategies, but it's not like the 12 unit limit actually stopped anybody from doing it, just made it a more annoying game to play
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Oct 21, 2014 01:45
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maybe it isnt fair to compare SC to a game made 1 year after it, but AoE2 had a 40 unit cap and soldiers that would automatically move in formation without needing to constantly micro obvious poo poo like keeping the archers behind the swordsmen
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Oct 21, 2014 01:50
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lesbian baphomet posted:maybe it isnt fair to compare SC to a game made 1 year after it, but AoE2 had a 40 unit cap and soldiers that would automatically move in formation without needing to constantly micro obvious poo poo like keeping the archers behind the swordsmen I still play AoE and RoN. I do not still play Starcraft. Just sayin
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Oct 21, 2014 02:34
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I still play Starcraft
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Oct 21, 2014 02:42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mxypu9WC8c
Tender Bender fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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Oct 21, 2014 02:55
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http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/429573-broodwar-and-starcraft-2-pathing
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Oct 21, 2014 03:09
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no, no we have to stop it here or me, you, and dareelkooky will be stuck in this time loop forever
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Oct 21, 2014 03:21
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sc lets you click the units until they say funny things... thats the real game and its better than total crapalation.
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Oct 21, 2014 03:23
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I like star craft
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Oct 21, 2014 04:09
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i was good at zergling rushes but nothing else
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Oct 21, 2014 04:12
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lesbian baphomet posted:maybe it isnt fair to compare SC to a game made 1 year after it, but AoE2 had a 40 unit cap and soldiers that would automatically move in formation without needing to constantly micro obvious poo poo like keeping the archers behind the swordsmen AOE also has six different types of units (stab man, archer, counter archer, horseman, seige and monks) that are all basically the exact same while starcraft has about 13 totally unique units for each race and is much more about how unit A beats unit B you'll notice that every AOE game that isn't "build a barracks outside their base the second I hit feudal age and go to town" ends up with giant 100something balls of units slamming into eachother, often several times, that's because AOE is all about the resources and map control (this is called "marco" to the koreans) while starcraft is a lot more about making each unit count ("micro" like sure starcraft technically has a pretty high unit count and massing units is very much a thing, but the game is designed in such a way that you can't just attack move your entire army at once and watch (notice how much stronger mass marines are in starcraft 2 vs 1 because with bigger unit control groups they're essentially one giant marine that autogibs anything it aims at)
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Oct 21, 2014 04:13
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darealkooky posted:AOE also has six different types of units (stab man, archer, counter archer, horseman, seige and monks) that are all basically the exact same while starcraft has about 13 totally unique units for each race and is much more about how unit A beats unit B Yeah but AoE has wololo
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Oct 21, 2014 04:58
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFVdRi0BCjw
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Oct 21, 2014 05:06
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lol at the idea of lumping all the Aoe siege weapons into the same thing, as though you could group a trebuchet with a mangonel with a cannon and not eat poo poo+die
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Oct 21, 2014 12:45
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Rancid Turd Shits.
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Oct 21, 2014 13:15
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Start Crapping as soon as I see this game, cuz it gives me diarrhea.
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Oct 21, 2014 13:16
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Ragg posted:Rancid Turd Shits.
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Oct 21, 2014 13:18
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Ragg posted:Start Crapping as soon as I see this game, cuz it gives me diarrhea.
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Oct 21, 2014 13:19
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I think it's incredibly stupid that "micromanagement" ever became a good thing somehow, and not an obvious symptom of a severe design flaw.
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Oct 21, 2014 13:32
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ty for reminding me that I have TA discs hiding somewhere and that I should play it
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Oct 21, 2014 13:34
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Falsum fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Oct 21, 2014 |
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Oct 21, 2014 13:36
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MIcro is for korean bug-men.
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Oct 21, 2014 14:08
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Checked all the boxes as any true video game lover should.
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Oct 21, 2014 14:27
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Ion Helmet posted:I think it's incredibly stupid that "micromanagement" ever became a good thing somehow, and not an obvious symptom of a severe design flaw. look at that one link falsum posted about how everything good in starcraft is awful design that makes it ~deep~
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Oct 21, 2014 14:31
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I think micromanagement works in some games which are focused on a squad of units like Dawn of War 2. But I don't like high amounts of it in games that have a split focus in base building where by necessity you're sometimes not looking in the right place via semi-random chance.
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Oct 21, 2014 14:46
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You could certainly argue that Starcraft's worth as a competitive game is accidental and born out of bad design (although is it necessarily bad design if it gives such good results?), but saying micromanagement is never a good thing is mind-numbingly stupid.
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Oct 21, 2014 14:47
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Falsum posted:but saying micromanagement is never a good thing is mind-numbingly stupid. maybe for weird korean RTSes perhaps, but in everyday jobs micromanagement absolutely sucks huge amount of donkey dick and its gay as gently caress and harms productivity
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Oct 21, 2014 14:56
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I'm more of a warcraftian.
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Oct 21, 2014 15:01
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Kylra posted:I think micromanagement works in some games which are focused on a squad of units like Dawn of War 2. But I don't like high amounts of it in games that have a split focus in base building where by necessity you're sometimes not looking in the right place via semi-random chance. want to make your eyes bleed watch any competitive rts game play and watch at the screen bounces around like a loving pingpong ball.
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Oct 21, 2014 15:05
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BERGfu posted:want to make your eyes bleed watch any competitive rts game play and watch at the screen bounces around like a loving pingpong ball. That's why they have spec modes.
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