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ImPureAwesome posted:Aren't Central American gangs supposed to somehow be even worse than Mexico's? A year or two ago there was an article listing the cities with the highest murder rate and literally 3/4 was mexican/central american/brazilian cities. Found it http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2013-11?op=1
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Zzulu posted:"Express kidnappings can be common as well How convenient!
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quote:Forty-one of the top 50 dangerous cities are located in Latin America The old gods still reside in the land and they demand their blood sacrifice
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Oct 23, 2014 17:45
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Do the cartels have like an unspoken agreement to leave rich white tourists alone if they stay confined to resort areas? I really want to visit Cancun. 
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Tampico city represent! poo poo gets crazy over here from time to time. Like, we have a couple of months with shootings and dead dudes all over the three towns (Tampico,Ciudad Madero and Altamira), then everything is calm and it's just fifteen year old girls getting snatched away for prostitution and hosed up poo poo, then we get back to massive killings and so on. I'm running the gently caress away to the South once I finish the Uni, then I seriously wanna run to somewhere else far far away. I don't care if I'm 60 by then, at least let me die in a less hosed up place.
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Oct 23, 2014 17:54
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DB mexicans are always welcome in america 
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Oct 23, 2014 17:55
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Muttonchips posted:Do the cartels have like an unspoken agreement to leave rich white tourists alone if they stay confined to resort areas? Like I said before, it's not that bad. Mexico it's a big country, there are a lot of "safe zones" (even in cartel controlled areas). If you take your usual tourist standard precautions you'll have a great time.
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is the yucatan peninsula safe because i have a long standing fantasy of going to see some mayan stuff
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and also feeling good about my relative prosperity compared to the mayans that are still around
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Oct 23, 2014 18:00
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Fandyien posted:is the yucatan peninsula safe because i have a long standing fantasy of going to see some mayan stuff The whole south is far safer, I went to Chiapas last winter and there were lots of tourists being tourists. Just don't go around showing your expensive cameras and cellphones.  Also, there was a narco message left in my uni this morning. I was in a hurry and didn't notice...oh welp!
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Muttonchips posted:Do the cartels have like an unspoken agreement to leave rich white tourists alone if they stay confined to resort areas? Are the cartels invested in the tourism business at all? Maybe they try to keep most of the violence and terror out of the tourist areas, bad for business. It's crazy how much Mexico has changed in a couple decades. You used to be able to go there no worries and buy tons of cheap booze, prescription drugs, jewelry, Cuban cigars, all sorts cool stuff. You could haggle for everything and the food was good. poo poo, my grandparents used to go on Airstream RV convoys way down into Mexico that would last for weeks in the 80s, they talk about how chill and nice most people were.
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Oct 23, 2014 18:05
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The toughest chicken.
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Oct 23, 2014 18:06
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also mexican spanish is like impossible to understand. im trying to learn and when i watch things online i can understand spaniard spanish and like argentinian spanish but mexican is all just "chingado this" and "chingado that" and it's so hard to follow
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Oct 23, 2014 18:06
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Fandyien posted:also mexican spanish is like impossible to understand. im trying to learn and when i watch things online i can understand spaniard spanish and like argentinian spanish but mexican is all just "chingado this" and "chingado that" and it's so hard to follow Iche,iche, te va a salir un tutupiche por ser tan shoto.
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Oct 23, 2014 18:09
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poo poo really went off the rails in mexico after the president got macho man savage on the cartels and the cartels were like lol we are waaaay more violent than you and then demonstrated just that
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Oct 23, 2014 18:10
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Fandyien posted:is the yucatan peninsula safe because i have a long standing fantasy of going to see some mayan stuff Yucatn peninsula its fuckin' beautiful. The capital city of Mrida is considered the safest city on the country, and there's not a lot of violence reports in the area. quote:Iche,iche, te va a salir un tutupiche por ser tan shoto. Lencho fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Fandyien posted:also mexican spanish is like impossible to understand. im trying to learn and when i watch things online i can understand spaniard spanish and like argentinian spanish but mexican is all just "chingado this" and "chingado that" and it's so hard to follow are you kidding, mexican spanish is the easiest besides peruvian
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Oct 23, 2014 18:11
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Its hosed up how they get kids to join cartels, they will come murder your parents in front of you, and then say the other cartel did it, you should get vengeance.....
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Desperado Bones posted:The whole south is far safer, I went to Chiapas last winter and there were lots of tourists being tourists. Just don't go around showing your expensive cameras and cellphones.  yea chiapas seems p chill loooooool
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Oct 23, 2014 18:12
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Lencho posted:Yucatn peninsula its fuckin' beautiful. The capital city of Mrida is considered the safest city on the country, and there's not a lot of violence reports in the area. if i can ever afford a vacation that is gonna top my list then because i wanna check out some cenotes and step pyramids and poo poo. i hear mexicans in southern mexico treat guatemalans and poo poo the same way racist texans treat fence jumpers is that true
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LifeSizePotato posted:are you kidding, mexican spanish is the easiest besides peruvian it might just be taht i tried to watch like mexican simpsons and some telenovelas and they talk fast and colloquially and the other spanish i've been exposed to was in a pedagogical context
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fyodor posted:
Just don't go around showing your expensive cameras and cellphones. Locals will tell you to don't go around alone, or you'll get your poo poo stolen and maybe will know how a machete feels. South Mexico is all about machetes. Edit: Tabasco is getting slowly in to narco violence, just so you know. People just don't talk. Same with Tamaulipas, poo poo is crazy, people just don't say a word and pretend nothing happened.
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i guess "far safer" is very relative to outright hellscape
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Desperado Bones posted:Just don't go around showing your expensive cameras and cellphones.
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Fandyien posted:if i can ever afford a vacation that is gonna top my list then because i wanna check out some cenotes and step pyramids and poo poo. i hear mexicans in southern mexico treat guatemalans and poo poo the same way racist texans treat fence jumpers is that true Northern mexicans treat southern mexicans like racists texans treats mojados, so yeah. Desperado Bones posted:Just don't go around showing your expensive cameras and cellphones. Sound advice. Also, machetes are the poo poo.
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i live in a very generic east coast city and tahts the same advice you'd give someone for walking around downtown only w/ machetes replaced with handguns. though earlier this month someone attacked people randomly with a "mallet like object"
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well chicago and juarez have a number of similarities, it is true
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Fandyien posted:it might just be taht i tried to watch like mexican simpsons and some telenovelas and they talk fast and colloquially and the other spanish i've been exposed to was in a pedagogical context i think i tried to find a mexican simpsons clip on youtube but they're all sped up for some reason, which might be part of it. but i think mexican spanish is the best to learn because a. it's the north american "standard" you'll get the most mileage out of, and b. they pronounce everything properly for the most part (obviously there are a million mexican dialects but proper univision mex is what i mean)
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Fandyien posted:i live in a very generic east coast city and tahts the same advice you'd give someone for walking around downtown only w/ machetes replaced with handguns. though earlier this month someone attacked people randomly with a "mallet like object" That's exactly my point! If you take your precautions you can have a great time even in a cartel infested hellhole without an issue.
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Zzulu posted:man you dont have to google very far to get stuff like this; If it makes you feel any better that video was not a message to America, and those women (while not deserving such a fate) were members of a rival cartel. Also what makes you think they are non religious? Ain't you ever heard of Jess Malverde the narco saint?
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LifeSizePotato posted:i think i tried to find a mexican simpsons clip on youtube but they're all sped up for some reason, which might be part of it. but i think mexican spanish is the best to learn because a. it's the north american "standard" you'll get the most mileage out of, and b. they pronounce everything properly for the most part (obviously there are a million mexican dialects but proper univision mex is what i mean) for real do you have any advice about things i might be able to watch because ive taken like 8 years of spanish so i theoretically know how to be conversant in it but then when it comes down to it i forget everything cus i don't have it all instinctually memorized
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HarlanHell posted:If it makes you feel any better that video was not a message to America, and those women (while not deserving such a fate) were members of a rival cartel. yah i was gonna say i do not think that narcos sending a message to america is v good business sense
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Fandyien posted:for real do you have any advice about things i might be able to watch because ive taken like 8 years of spanish so i theoretically know how to be conversant in it but then when it comes down to it i forget everything cus i don't have it all instinctually memorized Mexican dubbed movies and non comedic shows are pretty neutral, I would try with that.
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also i just wanna say i hate the way you guys do the imperfect tense
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mexico is where I want to be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzNJZQm6Q1Q
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All hail Santa Muerte.
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fyodor posted:
Lol, this isn't even near accurate Like 99% of the drug crime is never reported, because police are working or under control of cartels Source - my cousin is a policeman, and my eyes Someone in my family got hosed by a cartel business and our police officer family member warned us to not even think about reporting the threats
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Fandyien posted:for real do you have any advice about things i might be able to watch because ive taken like 8 years of spanish so i theoretically know how to be conversant in it but then when it comes down to it i forget everything cus i don't have it all instinctually memorized it seems like the news and soaps should be pretty easy to follow tbh, but they're also pretty boring and annoying to watch. unfortunately the only actual way to get good at a language is speaking it with natives.  dubbed material you're already familiar with that doesn't use funny voices is probably also a good way to go. edit: actually this simpsons isn't sped up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HbS5_CzQt8 LifeSizePotato fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Oct 23, 2014 |
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Also anime. I know, I know. But really, mexican dubs are legendary in latin american countries (just don't ask any spaniard about dubs).
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Don Tacorleone posted:Lol, this isn't even near accurate Yeah, hahaha. I was wondering what year this map was from and why was Tamaulipas in a pretty pink color, but then we have the gobernador claiming that nothing is happening over here, that everyone is being hysterical, and that you all gringos should come over here during spring break (please,no. Don't come.)
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