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I like the sound of vinyl, especially for recordings from the 80's. CD's from the 80's were horribly transferred and sound thin and terrible. Digital technology sucked until the 90's. They really had vinyl and tape technology down by then, and almost always the vinyl sounds better, crackle and all. All of my tapes from that era sound better than the CD version, so that should tell you how incredibly crappy CD's were. Now when something from that era is remastered it usually gets compressed to hell and sounds like poo poo, so even new CD's of older material suck. You're almost always better off with the vinyl of older recordings. Vinyl tends to have a warmer sound because you have to roll back some of the highs. High frequency transients need to be tamed because they'll distort when they get onto vinyl. Over-compressed poo poo needs to be tamed for the same reasons. Digital of course doesn't have this problem, and can reproduce whatever. As a result of these physical limitations, vinyl is just plain less loving painful on the ears than digital. Period. It's often literally a different master. At least until this pumping the highs and compressing the poo poo out of everything fad ends, the vinyl versions will probably sound better than the digital equivalent because they will be EQ'd better.
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SpeedGem posted:I wouldn't say it is a passing fad, LaserDiscs on ebay or worth more than gold in some cases, and the hd-dvds as well. It's like that episode in cowboy bebop where they struggle to find a betamax in a sunken mall or something. The star wars laserdisks are valuable because they are the highest resolution copy you can reasonably buy that doesn't have the awful "remastered" stuff added in like the DVDs and blurays do.
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Oct 27, 2014 18:30
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reasonably speaking you could just apply an algorithm to degrade digital music and achieve the same effect that the deficiencies in vinyl create
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Oct 27, 2014 19:11
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paranoid randroid posted:vinyl sales in 1982 were like 20mil but album sales in general have fallen off a cliff since mp3s became a viable medium to expand on this: not one album released in 2014 has gone platinum. including digital purchases. blame streaming services.
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Oct 27, 2014 19:13
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FogHelmut posted:reasonably speaking you could just apply an algorithm to degrade digital music and achieve the same effect that the deficiencies in vinyl create https://www.izotope.com/en/products/effects-instruments/vinyl/
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Oct 27, 2014 19:16
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*listens to warped thrift vinyl on urban outfitters portable turn-table* "vinyl sounds way worse than digital rofl"
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Oct 27, 2014 19:20
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alternatively: listens to warped thrift vinyl on urban outfitters portable turn-table* "vinyl sounds way better than digital rofl"
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Oct 27, 2014 19:20
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but really: *listens to vinyl on turn-table* *adjusts scarf around pencil neck and ensures deep-v tee reveals sternum bones, farts gas from vegan pizza*
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Oct 27, 2014 19:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCumH8LRo1A
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Oct 27, 2014 19:27
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People who listen to FLAC and other lossless formats might be worse than people who listen to vinyl, because there's actually an audible difference between vinyl and MP3.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:11
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEVNHvy2STU
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Oct 27, 2014 20:15
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Anyone have some doubleblind tests that prove audiophiles are full of poo poo?
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Oct 27, 2014 20:15
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Dj Spinna is awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlHQ6U-NtO4 e/ scratching with 45's is fiddly and tricky and this man is amazing at it.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:16
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i own all the beastie boys albums on vinyl except for hot sauce committee part 2
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Oct 27, 2014 20:17
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A. Beaverhausen posted:Anyone have some doubleblind tests that prove audiophiles are full of poo poo? We gathered up a 5 of our audio buddies. We took my "old" Martin Logan SL-3 (not a bad speaker for accurate noise making) and hooked them up with Monster 1000 speaker cables (decent cables according to the audio press). We also rigged up 14 gauge, oxygen free Belden stranded copper wire with a simple PVC jacket. Both were 2 meters long. They were connected to an ABX switch box allowing blind fold testing. Volume levels were set at 75 Db at 1000K Hz. A high quality recording of smooth, trio, easy listening jazz was played (Piano, drums, bass). None of us had heard this group or CD before, therefore eliminating biases. The music was played. Of the 5 blind folded, only 2 guessed correctly which was the monster cable. (I was not one of them). This was done 7 times in a row! Keeping us blind folded, my brother switched out the Belden wire (are you ready for this) with simple coat hanger wire! Unknown to me and our 12 audiophile buddies, prior to the ABX blind test, he took apart four coat hangers, reconnectd them and twisted them into a pair of speaker cables. Connections were soldered. He stashed them in a closet within the testing room so we were not privy to what he was up to. This made for a pair of 2 meter cables, the exact length of the other wires. The test was conducted. After 5 tests, none could determine which was the Monster 1000 cable or the coat hanger wire. Further, when music was played through the coat hanger wire, we were asked if what we heard sounded good to us. All agreed that what was heard sounded excellent, however, when A-B tests occured, it was impossible to determine which sounded best the majority of the time and which wire was in use. Needless to say, after the blind folds came off and we saw what my brother did, we learned he was right...most of what manufactures have to say about their products is pure hype. It seems the more they charge, the more hyped it is. http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/speakers-when-is-good-enough-enough.2512/page-2#post-15412
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Oct 27, 2014 20:18
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monster cable in particular is some over hype poo poo
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Oct 27, 2014 20:20
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People don't like accurate sound. They like sound that has been hosed with like LP "warmness", hosed by some stupid eq settings or in the more modern variant hosed by branded eq settings (beats dre). That is why every audio/video receiver has a ton of DSP settings like "concert hall" or "cinema" that actively try to distort your sound, because most people like that. Makes sense there are people who prefer their audio predistorted on the medium.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:30
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*pays $30 for a single album on vinyl*
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Oct 27, 2014 20:32
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I only listen to music through musical tooth brushes
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Oct 27, 2014 20:41
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*doesn't spend 60 dollars on cabling but I bought a tube-amp*
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Oct 27, 2014 20:43
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NihilismNow posted:People don't like accurate sound. They like sound that has been hosed with like LP "warmness", hosed by some stupid eq settings or in the more modern variant hosed by branded eq settings (beats dre). i like my music so undistorted by physics that i just read the sheet music and lyrics
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Oct 27, 2014 20:44
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i literally bought this today in honor of this thread
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Oct 27, 2014 20:50
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Here's Kid Koala doing cool stuff with vinyl records: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia5oK4PCCoM&t=20s Vinyl is cool. That's all I got.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:50
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I'm going to post increasingly large amounts of money that I've spent on turntable Needles and Cartridges, and we'll see where that goes.
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Oct 27, 2014 20:54
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$90 audio-technica cartridge
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Oct 27, 2014 20:54
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Oct 27, 2014 20:57
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCNjtk2fO6E
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Oct 27, 2014 20:58
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$300 technics SL semi-auto direct drive turntable
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Oct 27, 2014 20:58
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btw this works astoundingly well on old records that need a deep clean
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Oct 27, 2014 21:02
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I prefer vinyl because I'm too stupid to understand what an equalizer does.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:06
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$150 'Dragonfly' DAC/Amp
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Oct 27, 2014 21:06
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I prefer polyethylene.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:11
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NihilismNow posted:People don't like accurate sound. They like sound that has been hosed with like LP "warmness", hosed by some stupid eq settings or in the more modern variant hosed by branded eq settings (beats dre). That's my enhanced bass story, they ended up in the trash where they belong.
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Oct 27, 2014 21:14
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I listen to music on PC speakers I found in a box
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Oct 27, 2014 23:15
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I use my prosumer music production speakers/interface. if ti's good enough for recording it's good enough for listening.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:22
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vinyl is a dead medium you hipster nerds *goes back to listening to music on his iphone 6*
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Oct 27, 2014 23:28
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Dopesmoker sounds better on vinyl than on CD and having to change sides 3 times is more in line with how Sleep actually played the song live when I saw then in January. Plus they made the discs look like hashish and the album art is baller.
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Oct 27, 2014 23:31
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I have a pretty serious system and I think both things sound good. Digital is more accurate though, sorry. If that hurts your ears or "fatigues" you then your setup is not good, accuracy should instead make you look around the room like "what the hell was that noise? Oh wait, that was in the recording. Woooooah  "
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Oct 28, 2014 00:16
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sometimes I think about spending more than a few hundred bucks on a sound system but then I remember I'm almost 35 years old and have significant higher frequency hearing loss and pretty bad tinnitus in one ear
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vinyls are ok but if you're not using them with modern non destructive laser turntables you're retarded
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