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Mr. Highway posted:I'm starting to think this has become a vague, videogame related platitude, where neither the player nor the audience really understands what it is supposed to mean. It means they want to sell 30 Million copies, but they can't compare it to Madden, so "You know how COD has a Zombies mode? Well this whole game is that" is the marketing they use.
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Sramaker posted:I noticed thread and i have some questions: Does this one follow the plot points introduced in the DR2 games, who the main character and how many endings does this have? Yes. Nick. 4 or 5. David D. Davidson posted:One request I make is that you do as many bossfights as you can in drag. So I'll mention it in the next video (should be posting it tonight) but I'm not planning on being too crazy with the clothing options. I just don't want to obscure the facial expressions or gently caress with animations. I'm thinking I'll do a bonus video at some point with good cutscene/outfit options. Or during side mission or collection videos.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I actually think the original Dead Rising has a pretty darn good script. It's very Romero, complete with a somewhat in-your-face social commentary message and the zombies being metaphorical. It is and was topical, the imagery worked, and it has a number of really rather emotional scenes. I really like the main villains' death scene and the ending sequence has a really cool quote from an obscure English poem to boot. Totally agreed. And I thought Dead Rising 2 did a decent job at at least aping the original game's tone and plotline. I mean it clearly felt like an "homage", but it couldn't be quite the same as the original without the original developers behind it. As for Dead Rising 3, I liked it but I definitely wouldn't put it in the same league as the first two. I felt like Dead Rising 3 was a misstep, they added some things I like (crafting anywhere, modding vehicles together on-the-fly) but took away some of the series' more unique elements like a strict event timer and limited saving. "Nightmare Mode" supposedly has all that in, I'll have to give it a try to say if it really feels like the older games.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I actually think the original Dead Rising has a pretty darn good script. It's very Romero, complete with a somewhat in-your-face social commentary message and the zombies being metaphorical. It is and was topical, the imagery worked, and it has a number of really rather emotional scenes. I really like the main villains' death scene and the ending sequence has a really cool quote from an obscure English poem to boot. Except it's never explained how using wasps to turn people into zombies would solve the beef shortages. Or who thought wasps that turn people into zombies was a good idea.
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It was an accident. Dr. Barnaby and his team were trying to "use the abnormal but useful properties" of the Santa Cabeza wasps to solve the beef shortages (to make bigger cows and/or speed up reproduction or something, I'm not entirely sure how the whole process was supposed to work, but whatever because zombie video game), but because they were scientists in a Capcom game they ended up creating zombie cows instead, and the infection spread to humans when the wasps escaped the lab. So yeah, they weren't trying to make wasps that turned people into zombies. Also, I just watched the story recap episode. Gotta love that Deadly Premonition otherworld music.
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Oct 30, 2014 20:40
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I haven't seen enough of Dick here to know this for certain, but I get a big feeling, just from the jukebox and him stopping to kick a zombie, that he's not done messing things up for the team quite yet. I've seen enough zombie movies to know that the guy established early on as the buffoon is just destined to do something moronic right near the end. Also, if I'm understanding "illegal" to mean that you're infected but not chipped, how would our new camera-watching friend know at a glance that the person we're going to meet is an illegal? For that matter, how does a chip inserted into you automatically inject you with anti-zombie medicine? Unless the chip also comes with a giant reservoir of Zombrex for each registered infectee, I don't see how anyone expected this system to work.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:34
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David D. Davidson posted:Except it's never explained how using wasps to turn people into zombies would solve the beef shortages. Or who thought wasps that turn people into zombies was a good idea.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:51
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Blastinus posted:Also, if I'm understanding "illegal" to mean that you're infected but not chipped, how would our new camera-watching friend know at a glance that the person we're going to meet is an illegal? Either he's got some records to attach faces with or the survivor whipped out some Zombrex on camera.
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Oct 30, 2014 21:54
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Blastinus posted:I haven't seen enough of Dick here to know this for certain, but I get a big feeling, just from the jukebox and him stopping to kick a zombie, that he's not done messing things up for the team quite yet. I've seen enough zombie movies to know that the guy established early on as the buffoon is just destined to do something moronic right near the end. Also if anyone is interested, Dead Rising 3 for the PC is currently 25% on Steam for Halloween; it might be 50% during Christmas though, but there's still a discount there.
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 NEW UPDATEVideo 02 - A Little Bit Of Everything [YouTube] You chatty cathys have discussed about half the conversation topics of this video already. FrenzyTheKillbot fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 6, 2015 |
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Oct 30, 2014 23:12
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Man, I never really thought to talk to Rhonda or Dick or any other NPC between missions, I guess that would've helped fill in their characters a little bit since the story basically tells you nothing about them other than they're people who Nick got to know over the course of a few months during the outbreak. But we the players aren't really told who exactly they are or why we should care about them.
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Oct 31, 2014 00:01
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Aw come on, nobody even commented on the fact that Nick's yelling Shoryuken ? That's Capcom for you  So far so good ! I really appreciate the combo weapons showcase. Ledgy fucked around with this message at 00:03 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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Oct 31, 2014 00:01
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King Vidiot posted:Man, I never really thought to talk to Rhonda or Dick or any other NPC between missions, I guess that would've helped fill in their characters a little bit since the story basically tells you nothing about them other than they're people who Nick got to know over the course of a few months during the outbreak. But we the players aren't really told who exactly they are or why we should care about them. Par for the course with Dead Rising as a series, it took until 2 with Chuck's daughter Katie to even give you a reason to care about NPC's ingame, Frank back in 1 had zero reasons to give a poo poo about anyone, a fact he makes quite clear a few times infact. Frank's a jerk, but he's the best.
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Oct 31, 2014 00:05
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If you give Nick a fro and aviators he looks a lot like Slash.
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Oct 31, 2014 00:41
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OK, those rings attached to the... spine of the bladed weapon; they're to add weight to the blow, yes?
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Oct 31, 2014 01:08
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Right, he shouts out "Shoryuken" when using the boxing gloves combi weapon. Any and all complaints about this game being serious are now null and void.
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Samovar posted:OK, those rings attached to the... spine of the bladed weapon; they're to add weight to the blow, yes? The rings on the guandao don't really add weight, they're just there for decorative purposes.
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Judge Tesla posted:Par for the course with Dead Rising as a series, it took until 2 with Chuck's daughter Katie to even give you a reason to care about NPC's ingame, Frank back in 1 had zero reasons to give a poo poo about anyone, a fact he makes quite clear a few times infact. Maybe you're right, maybe it's just the fact that we're introduced to the characters in the previous two games that they actually seem worth giving a drat about. Here, we get no introductions it's just "here's Dick, here's Rhonda... and I guess your name's Nick or something". citybeatnik posted:Right, he shouts out "Shoryuken" when using the boxing gloves combi weapon. Any and all complaints about this game being serious are now null and void. poo poo, you ain't seen nothing yet. But overall the tone of the game is darker, but it's something you probably wouldn't pick up on unless you've played all the games in the series and then play this one for yourself. Zombies are deadlier and there's more of them, Nick doesn't make wisecracks, the palette is more muted, etc., which doesn't make it more serious but it does take away from the carnival funhouse atmosphere of the previous games.
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Excited to finally see this game being taken on. I did a 4-month internship at CV at the end of last year, during this game's final crunch & release, and it's nice seeing somebody interested enough to share it with other people after watching developers spend their evenings at the office. Also, there's another way to induce Zhi's angry stamping. In the cutscene before the fight, he gets mad when a zombie bumps into his gong. That's supposed to hint to you that you can roll into/attack the gongs to piss him off. All of the psychos actually have a non-voice way to induce their grab-able state, so that playing without Kinect doesn't significantly change the fight.
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Personally, I'm waiting for Dead Rising 3: Off the Record (it won't happen but dammit every DR game should have a Frank version  )
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whowhatwhere posted:Personally, I'm waiting for Dead Rising 3: Off the Record (it won't happen but dammit every DR game should have a Frank version Or at least a version with a camera It's not DR if you can't get points for Erotica.
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Procrastinator posted:Also, there's another way to induce Zhi's angry stamping. In the cutscene before the fight, he gets mad when a zombie bumps into his gong. That's supposed to hint to you that you can roll into/attack the gongs to piss him off. All of the psychos actually have a non-voice way to induce their grab-able state, so that playing without Kinect doesn't significantly change the fight.
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King Vidiot posted:poo poo, you ain't seen nothing yet. But overall the tone of the game is darker, but it's something you probably wouldn't pick up on unless you've played all the games in the series and then play this one for yourself. Zombies are deadlier and there's more of them, Nick doesn't make wisecracks, the palette is more muted, etc., which doesn't make it more serious but it does take away from the carnival funhouse atmosphere of the previous games. I guess they could justify it by way of how we're in a normal California city, instead of stuck inside a Middle-West (heh) Super Mall or Casino Resort city, with all their bright lights and costumes and toys. I really like what you're doing with this game. I second the suggestion that you wear ridiculous costumes for cutscenes, but if you're waiting to do it for a "best of" video, that'll be ok too.
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That story recap video was very well done, but I seem to remember some escaped convicts in the first game, can't remember how connected to the main plot it was though
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Procrastinator posted:Also, there's another way to induce Zhi's angry stamping. In the cutscene before the fight, he gets mad when a zombie bumps into his gong. That's supposed to hint to you that you can roll into/attack the gongs to piss him off. All of the psychos actually have a non-voice way to induce their grab-able state, so that playing without Kinect doesn't significantly change the fight. Deceitful Penguin posted:Yea, I kept wondering why he wasn't doing that since it seemed obvious but they didn't really need it. Cause I'm a big dumbass who never made that connection. It's probably more that I do use the Kinect, and the voice prompt works so well in that fight that I've never looked for an alternate method. Nalesh posted:That story recap video was very well done, but I seem to remember some escaped convicts in the first game, can't remember how connected to the main plot it was though Yeah they were just a couple of the psychos in that game. I still remember that music that played for that fight though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIRDCbP2SZQ
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Also something I've found odd about pretty much every zombie movie, game, book, etc. Is something I've only seen people do in a single manga(I am a Hero): loving quarantine people for a set number of hours after they've been out scouting/scavenging, no matter if they had actual contact with zombies or not. Also that first psycho. This is becoming more like dynasty warriors every single game, with how the zombies get even easier to kill and the bosses get more and more off the chain 
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:Cause I'm a big dumbass who never made that connection. It's probably more that I do use the Kinect, and the voice prompt works so well in that fight that I've never looked for an alternate method. Yeah. As far as I remember, the idea was that there would probably be some reasonably large subset of Xbox One owners that would play with the Kinect features off. A few of the later ones are more fun and interesting than gong smacking. Also, I'm not sure if you were planning on bringing it up later, but CV made it known that each optional psycho represents one of the 7 deadly sins. Zhi is Wrath.
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FrenzyTheKillbot posted:Cause I'm a big dumbass who never made that connection. It's probably more that I do use the Kinect, and the voice prompt works so well in that fight that I've never looked for an alternate method. For people who don't know, these assholes were the absolute worst, they'd set up shop in the outdoor area of the shopping center in that truck and most of the time, the crappy AI would have them driving into trees constantly but the second you are escorting survivors, they seem to gain a brain, oh and they were the only boss who would RESPAWN the following day when killed. Yeah you could just use the bathroom shortcut to avoid them, but you need to go through another boss to do so.
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Procrastinator posted:Also, I'm not sure if you were planning on bringing it up later... I was planning on mentioning it, but I was going to wait until we'd done a few and gotten to one of the more obvious ones. But I'm really liking the insider info. 4 months isn't a long time, but I bet it was enough to get in on every part of the game during a crunch.
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Endorph posted:The initial zombie plague was started by the bees, and the zombies are kind of controlled by the bees. I forget the specifics but the backstory given in DR1 is that they were trying to get cows to breed rapidly and be immune to disease, or something like that, and wound up with zombie bees. You spelt Zombees wrong.
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So if i remember well Dead Rising had part(s) that compared Americans with zombies because "They eat and eat AND EAT and reproduce", did Dead Rising 2 have a part that sound like some commentary on society? What about this one (No need to spoil anything if you don't want to) Sorry if i misunderstood that for a commentary on society. Dead Rising 1: Guttony Dead Rising 2: Greed Dead Rising 3: ???
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Yeah it was greed, between the outbreak being an opportunity for TK to rob the casinos and the company that makes Zombrex causing outbreaks so they constantly make money.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah it was greed, between the outbreak being an opportunity for TK to rob the casinos and the company that makes Zombrex causing outbreaks so they constantly make money.
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So far the theme doesn't seem to be any Deadly Sin, but Fear seems to be the key problem of America in this game.
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There's a specific aspect of American culture I'd say this game is "about" but it doesn't really come into play until later in the game. It may not be a particularly surprising theme but it still ties into major spoilers and what-not. I'll just throw out there that there really isn't much of a plot to hold onto until like the last 3 hours of gameplay in this 20-hour game.
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Sramaker posted:So if i remember well Dead Rising had part(s) that compared Americans with zombies because "They eat and eat AND EAT and reproduce", did Dead Rising 2 have a part that sound like some commentary on society? What about this one (No need to spoil anything if you don't want to) That's also why all the malls. Also checking up on that I think I can guess what the main characters connection with the other games could be. Orphan, eh... VVV Two characters mention it in the first video. I mean, it would fit but I'm just guessing here. And one good thing about the DR series is that they at least usually have fairly good twists. Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Also i was told the S ending reveal something that might be Deadly sin related about a major character maybe but i wasn't spoiled about what it was in particular or who it was. Wait, orphan? I wonder if that tie into the last time in the games orphans were mentioned, but no spoiling if that's the case please!
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whowhatwhere posted:So far the theme doesn't seem to be any Deadly Sin, but Fear seems to be the key problem of America in this game. Wrath seems about right. They react poorly when illegals are around and automatically scapegoat them for the spread. Easy targets for indignation. But it is just a guess.
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Pride and Envy maybe later on if i'm right in guessing how the story will go.
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