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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Pendragon posted:

but I'm certain they've learned their lesson and this time around they isolated all the browser version-specific code into compact modules that can easily be replaced in the future when they need to switch browsers again.killed themselves because it's not worth the pain.

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detroit
Nov 11, 2009
im mgmt at epic :negative:

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

detroit posted:

im mgmt at epic :negative:

stop it

detroit
Nov 11, 2009

its true.

i had words w somebody today for not logging time

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
lol @ all the idiot scrub cjs voting microsoft as the most enterprise as they come. you sweet summer children what do you know about the long cold enterprise winter?

tmesis
Jan 18, 2007

sup holmes
Megamarm

vas0line posted:

sync PHI in the iCloud . go ahead and do it.

i love getting asked for this several times a week, and telling people it's a stupid loving idea

Avenging Dentist
Oct 1, 2005

oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

detroit posted:

i had words w somebody today for not logging time

i always just made up numbers for that

which is essentially what i do at the ~*~agile scrumbum standup meetings~*~ at my much-nicer job too because both of these things are just processes to wring mediocre work out of people you'd otherwise get terrible work from

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Pendragon posted:

but I'm certain they've learned their lesson and this time around they isolated all the browser version-specific code into compact modules that can easily be replaced in the future when they need to switch browsers again.

hahahahaha

enterprise software never gets changed more than the minimum necessary to make the error messages go away, unless some jackass middle manager decides he wants a new feature

the upgrade mostly consisted of commenting out 75% of the stuff in the "if getbrowser() == IE" blocks and then tacking on "if getbrowser() == IE11" blocks after them

LSC
Apr 17, 2006

detroit posted:

its true.

i had words w somebody today for not logging time

lol if u dont just log everything to w/e the TLP for walking is.

LSC
Apr 17, 2006

epic wants you to log the time you spend walking between meetings

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
did anyone actually not bullshit that for non-billable poo poo/did anyone actually pay attention to non-billable poo poo.

hell, i was even specifically told to bullshit parts of the billable poo poo by management.

edit: also gently caress enterprise licensing. cant nobody do it right, and sales' fuckups always end in calls to tech support, and we can't do anything about it.

Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Nov 5, 2014

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

Necc0 posted:

lol @ all the idiot scrub cjs voting microsoft as the most enterprise as they come. you sweet summer children what do you know about the long cold enterprise winter?

The_Groove
Mar 15, 2003

Supersonic compressible convection in the sun
ibm's licensing for their gpfs filesystem and probably other stuff is some crazy thing where you have to look up your processor model/speed, find out how many units of whatever made up ibm poo poo it equates to, then buy however many units of that for the number and types of processors in your cluster, except you can only buy in packs of some nice round number so you end up with like 500,000 units of licensing for your hundreds/thousands of clients (plus extras)

then they may or may not ship you 800 pounds of shrinkwrapped paper+cardboard "licenses" for a software product that requires no activation or codes or anything like that

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

there is currently a ~*platform*~ that dell software is selling that they literally can't get installed again so there is a single working appliance they ship around the world whenever someone wants to demo it and you can only demo it for like a week cause they need it for the next POC

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

whats even scarier is that its been bought and their strategy is to throw in like another dozen licenses for software for free that can be installed to stall ever having to get it running

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

power botton posted:

there is currently a ~*platform*~ that dell software is selling that they literally can't get installed again so there is a single working appliance they ship around the world whenever someone wants to demo it and you can only demo it for like a week cause they need it for the next POC

what

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

The_Groove posted:

ibm's licensing for their gpfs filesystem and probably other stuff is some crazy thing where you have to look up your processor model/speed, find out how many units of whatever made up ibm poo poo it equates to, then buy however many units of that for the number and types of processors in your cluster, except you can only buy in packs of some nice round number so you end up with like 500,000 units of licensing for your hundreds/thousands of clients (plus extras)

then they may or may not ship you 800 pounds of shrinkwrapped paper+cardboard "licenses" for a software product that requires no activation or codes or anything like that

i used to work with a "san" vendor who built their entire product on gpfs. buying a complete storage cluster from the vendor was much cheaper than just licensing an equal number of gpfs nodes directly from ibm

not sure how that deal was supposed to work for anyone involved

esp. since the product didn't work well

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

inSANity

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i used to work with a "san" vendor who built their entire product on gpfs. buying a complete storage cluster from the vendor was much cheaper than just licensing an equal number of gpfs nodes directly from ibm

not sure how that deal was supposed to work for anyone involved

esp. since the product didn't work well

lol and people wonder why ibm is losing money

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

power botton posted:

there is currently a ~*platform*~ that dell software is selling that they literally can't get installed again so there is a single working appliance they ship around the world whenever someone wants to demo it and you can only demo it for like a week cause they need it for the next POC

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

The_Groove posted:

ibm's licensing for their gpfs filesystem and probably other stuff is some crazy thing where you have to look up your processor model/speed, find out how many units of whatever made up ibm poo poo it equates to, then buy however many units of that for the number and types of processors in your cluster, except you can only buy in packs of some nice round number so you end up with like 500,000 units of licensing for your hundreds/thousands of clients (plus extras)

then they may or may not ship you 800 pounds of shrinkwrapped paper+cardboard "licenses" for a software product that requires no activation or codes or anything like that

someone made worse licensing than sql server, impressive

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

mishaq posted:

someone made worse licensing than sql server, impressive



single-core processors are twice as expensive as dual-core processors? :confused:

Chill Callahan
Nov 14, 2012

akadajet posted:

Goddamnit, this thread is written POV, probably by some clowns who know only MUMPS and are desparately afraid that their stinking, rotten, filthy little jobs, delaying care to military veterans with their goddamn outdated technology, might be lost. Men and women are returning burned and blasted to poo poo and sit and rot in hallways for "paperwork" to catch up with them.

Where does this paperwork come from? Why is it late?

This thread DOES make it clear where it comes from and why it is late. A bunch of contemptible little programmers who care only about their cozy comfortable jobs actually believe the ABSURD claims in this thread.

I've removed one such claim: it was logically contradictory, and the person, probably a MUMPS hotshot, who posted it didn't see the logical contradiction because he or she is STUPID. It literally claimed that "structured programming" reduces development time AND that it makes programs difficult to debug.

Hey, Ace. Hey Hot Dog, what the HELL do you think you're claiming?! That you're done developing when you stop typing the code?

My uncle, a personal physician of Lyndon Johnson, is probably DEAD because of MUMPS. He died alone in a military hospital at the age of 78 because Job One in an organization with dysfunctional-dogshit computer systems is the fascinating "intellectual challenge" that paperwork presents, which health "care" bureaucrats seem today to prefer to looking after men and women who've served their country.

As I have posted, last month the OIG of the Veterans Administration has reported serious problems of the type that emerge from clownish data systems celebrated by buffoons for their wonderful GoTo statements, their fascinating limits on string length, and overall, their replacement of transparency by an opacity, that allows data processing bureaucrats, most of whom with serious addictions, usually to food, to sit on their fat asses "thinking" about stupid things.

The thread violates YOSPOS NPOV and it needs to be rewritten from top to bottom. NPOV is NOT NOT NOT agreement with the local boys who colonize a thread. MUMPS is a dysfunctional system: this is FACT.

Tane

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

mishaq posted:

someone made worse licensing than sql server, impressive



this, but now your core factor also varies by architecture (x86, POWER, z195/zAAP/zIIP)

price may also vary by operating system (linux/aix, z/OS, i5/OS) but that is not related to the core factor

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


prefect posted:

single-core processors are twice as expensive as dual-core processors? :confused:

it's to create a 4-core license minimum

pram
Jun 10, 2001

:cawg:

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

power botton posted:

there is currently a ~*platform*~ that dell software is selling that they literally can't get installed again so there is a single working appliance they ship around the world whenever someone wants to demo it and you can only demo it for like a week cause they need it for the next POC

now THATS what i call enterprise!

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Number19 posted:

it's to create a 4-core license minimum

gonna run this poo poo on one of those 3 core AMD processors, according to the rules i should be able to skirt the 4 core license minimum

TAKE THAT MICROSOFT

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

except you can only buy core licenses in packs of 2

they thought of everything :smith:

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

they made a platform but cant figure out how they got it to work in the first place but thats not preventing them from shopping it around and trying to sell it to others :iamafag:

z0rlandi viSSer
Nov 5, 2013

The_Groove
Mar 15, 2003

Supersonic compressible convection in the sun

mishaq posted:

someone made worse licensing than sql server, impressive



yuuup
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/passportadvantage/pvu_licensing_for_customers.html

pram
Jun 10, 2001
lol you dont even get a break using power

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005


jesus christ

https://www-112.ibm.com/software/ho...CLEAR_DATA_FLAG

Number19
May 14, 2003

HOCKEY OWNS
FUCK YEAH


mishaq posted:

gonna run this poo poo on one of those 3 core AMD processors, according to the rules i should be able to skirt the 4 core license minimum

TAKE THAT MICROSOFT

they're sold in packs of 2 so nope

Pendragon
Jun 18, 2003

HE'S WATCHING YOU

what....

how....

why....

so many questions....

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Necc0 posted:

lol @ all the idiot scrub cjs voting microsoft as the most enterprise as they come. you sweet summer children what do you know about the long cold enterprise winter?

what about autodesk

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

for those unwilling to click through, here is the horror in all its glory

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
the best thing in this table is that ibm itself admits a Cell cpu is, at most, 1/4th as valuable as a contemporary POWER6.

i can't believe they persuaded anyone, much less Sony, to buy one

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Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

computer parts posted:

what about autodesk

i don't think autodesk even counts as enterprise

what do they make that runs businesses? i thought they sold engineer's tools

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