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Plafop posted:Sure, we spend billions of dollars blowing ours noses on hundred dollar bills, but have you SEEN the cost of defending our country?? That's the real problem. "defending our country" lol
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TEAYCHES posted:imo this whole incident proves that socialism is good and correct. stop contracting this poo poo out retards
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Oct 29, 2014 02:44
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the last time the us military sincerely defended the united states was probably 1812, or the civil war if you want to count it
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Oct 29, 2014 02:45
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:the last time the us military sincerely defended the united states was probably 1812, or the civil war if you want to count it what are things only retards believe
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Oct 29, 2014 02:46
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:the last time the us military sincerely defended the united states was probably 1812, or the civil war if you want to count it
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Plafop posted:what are things only retards believe the things that you post
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1gnoirents posted:It's over dude, we just need to look for ways to make money off space. Then suddenly space technology will be saved via private sector We already are, that's the whole point. This particular rocket was made by one of the also-rans. SpaceX's in-house built rockets have already serviced the ISS, and will do so for a small fraction of what we've been paying for Lockheed/Boeing (the "ULA") to do it. Much less paying the Russians to do it for us. Plafop posted:Sure, we spend billions of dollars blowing ours noses on hundred dollar bills, but have you SEEN the cost of defending our country?? That's the real problem. The United States of America is not under threat by anyone anywhere. WE are not "defending our country" we're salting various congressional districts with pork. We annually buy the military billions of dollars of poo poo they don't want and didn't ask for, because it's the only way to get Senator Fuckface to sign a spending bill. A fat lot of loving good those stealth bombers are, when the wars we're fighting these days are conducted by soldiers fighting insurgents in the streets, or by cheap unmanned drones bombing peasants in Pakistan. I'm sure our massive fleet of aircraft carriers is super-needed to make sure the Chinese and Russians don't invade America, because that's totally a thing they'd do.
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Plafop posted:what are things only retards believe The only reason we were involved in ww2 is because japan got pissy about oil. The united states since then went to korea, now north and south korea, veitnam, grenada,iran or iraq, depends the people we fund, kuwait. etc etc
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Oct 29, 2014 02:48
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:the last time the us military sincerely defended the united states was probably 1812, or the civil war if you want to count it
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Oct 29, 2014 02:48
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Honestly, I can't help but feel like humanity/NASA should take a hint with all these shuttle crashes. Maybe we're doing something we're not supposed to. Meh, I might just be paranoid...
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Seriously what are the prospects of us needing five hundred tanks to fight a big tank battle against some other army with hundreds of tanks for us to fight? I'm sure there's like a really big chance that the Japanese are going to invade Hawaii, that's why we need battleships stationed there. Or hey maybe China will do it, nevermind that canceling all our business relations with China would plunge it into a catastrophic depression and instantly trigger violent revolution. But no, let's cancel NASA because a subcontracted unmanned test rocket trying out a
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Oct 29, 2014 02:50
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Leperflesh posted:Seriously what are the prospects of us needing five hundred tanks to fight a big tank battle against some other army with hundreds of tanks for us to fight? China as an ally in ww2 is basically scrubbed from all american history books, russia too.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:52
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Oh no we lost an airplane over the south pacific or indian ocean or something. Time to cancel the FAA, passenger aircraft are a boondoggle.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:54
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:the last time the us military sincerely defended the united states was probably 1812, or the civil war if you want to count it why would you not count insurrection
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Leperflesh posted:Seriously what are the prospects of us needing five hundred tanks to fight a big tank battle against some other army with hundreds of tanks for us to fight? I'm gonna repeat my opinion that the marine corps and the chair force should be abolished.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:54
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Leperflesh posted:Oh no we lost an airplane over the south pacific or indian ocean or something. Time to cancel the FAA, passenger aircraft are a boondoggle. cancel nasa
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Oct 29, 2014 02:55
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Someone died of Ebola, we should eliminate the CDC. What the gently caress do we need disease research for anywya, it's not like there are military applications for learning how to treat multiple drug resistant tuberculosis. Hey let's get rid of the NOAA too, it's not like they can actually stop hurricanes from happening, am I right?
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TEAYCHES posted:cancel nasa Cancel your existence.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:55
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Oct 29, 2014 02:56
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Cancel the food and drug administration. We can just privitize meat inspections. Stupid nanny government trying to tell me whether or not I can eat salmonella. I'll eat salmonella if I want to, it's my god-given right as an American!
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Oct 29, 2014 02:57
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Leperflesh posted:Someone died of Ebola, we should eliminate the CDC. What the gently caress do we need disease research for anywya, it's not like there are military applications for learning how to treat multiple drug resistant tuberculosis. You could probably get rid of about 90% of the bureaucracy and it would run better yeah.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:57
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Don't get rid of NASA, just re-purpose it to manufacture gigantic space-fireworks that can be seen from all over the world.
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Leperflesh posted:Cancel the food and drug administration. We can just privitize meat inspections. Stupid nanny government trying to tell me whether or not I can eat salmonella. I'll eat salmonella if I want to, it's my god-given right as an American! You're only posting things I unironically agree with. I'm sure companies are going to start putting poison in their food because that is very profitable.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:58
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Plafop posted:You could probably get rid of about 90% of the bureaucracy and it would run better yeah. The goal of the government is not to "run better," efficiency is secondary to actually providing government service, hth
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Leperflesh posted:Someone died of Ebola, we should eliminate the CDC. What the gently caress do we need disease research for anywya, it's not like there are military applications for learning how to treat multiple drug resistant tuberculosis. you ever wonder why israel never gets any hurricanes? really makes you think...
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SpeedGem posted:China as an ally in ww2 is basically scrubbed from all american history books, russia too. Taiwan is still an ally. The Communists were never American allies.
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Oct 29, 2014 02:59
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Plafop posted:Taiwan is still an ally. The Communists were never American allies. yeap
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Oct 29, 2014 02:59
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Imagine if NASA like, shot a huge freaking flare into the ionosphere that consistently emitted infrared light for weeks to help plants go to fruit and seed all over the world. That would be cool. Weed.
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Plafop posted:You're only posting things I unironically agree with. I'm sure companies are going to start putting poison in their food because that is very profitable. Yes, because there was never a time before government food inspection in which companies routinely poisoned people, which is what prompted the creation of the FDA. All government services I don't understand are unnecessary because it's impossible that they were created for a good reason. You want to live in a country with no government services, please go right on ahead. Liberia is waiting for you.
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Leperflesh posted:The goal of the government is not to "run better,"
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Tsinava posted:Imagine if NASA like, shot a huge freaking flare into the ionosphere that consistently emitted infrared light for weeks to help plants go to fruit and seed all over the world. That would be cool. I'm still waiting for space weed.
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Oct 29, 2014 03:04
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A rocket exploded? I think the most important issue here is how this is NASA's fault and not the glorious free markets.
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Plafop posted:this is what liberals actually believe Yeah. Like, efficiently returning value to investors is how businesses should run. But there are plenty of government services where a singular drive towards efficiency without regards to actually delivering the service is worse than not having that service at all. Criminal justice, for example. Being fair and impartial is more important than ensuring the arrested are processed and remanded to a high-efficiency labor camp with maximal efficiency. Inspecting food for safety is more important than making sure food companies operate with maximal efficiency. Ideally you deliver quality essential services without excess waste, but the priority should be on the service delivery more than the waste. We have government specifically because private industry prioritizes on profitability, not service coverage, fairness, justice, or even long-term benefit beyond the next quarterly profit report. Or to put it another way: you're an idiot.
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Plafop posted:You're only posting things I unironically agree with. I'm sure companies are going to start putting poison in their food because that is very profitable. the china thread in dnd has some great success stories of corrupt/non-existent government food safety inspections, you should go there and hopefully kill yourself eating meat that's expired/infected with diseases/contaminated by heavy metals
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being an astronaut is probably loving terrifying but I think I could do it
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah. Like, efficiently returning value to investors is how businesses should run. But there are plenty of government services where a singular drive towards efficiency without regards to actually delivering the service is worse than not having that service at all. literally none of this is true and if you look at the data the free market literally always returns better results because they are beholden to actual metrics and budgets also lol if you think criminal justice in america is in any way good
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah. Like, efficiently returning value to investors is how businesses should run. But there are plenty of government services where a singular drive towards efficiency without regards to actually delivering the service is worse than not having that service at all. oh phew! You're right! For a second I thought we were living on a planet with limited resources and scarcity, but it turns out we're living in a star trek utopia where anything is possible.
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We spend money on those darn yuropoors' defence. Maybe they should stop mooching off us and pull up their pants and pick up a gun
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