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Oct 29, 2014 17:58
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no, unions are for lazy filth takers, hth.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:58
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The reason Libertarians hate unions is because working together and empathy for other people are things Objectivists can't do because they are all sociopaths
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Oct 29, 2014 17:59
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unions remove a working force from the effects of the free market, so no no they shouldn't.
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Oct 29, 2014 17:59
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Shouldnt dumb fucks.....fart
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Oct 29, 2014 18:01
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Shouldn't librarians love unicorns?
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Oct 29, 2014 18:01
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The diminishing union membership over the years and the diminishing middle class over the years are merely a coincidence, OP.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:01
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they also dont want taxes to pay for roads so i guess they dont like intersections either
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Oct 29, 2014 18:01
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libertarians love getting hosed in the rear end by their bosses or loving their employees in the rear end. all other considerations are secondary.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:06
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TOILETLORD posted:unions remove a working force from the effects of the free market, so no no they shouldn't. but workers form them freely as a result of the free market. it seems like an arbitrary cap on how "free" the market really is op has a point
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Oct 29, 2014 18:08
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im pretty convinced anybody who defends unions in 2014 has 1) never worked with anybody in a union 2) is in a union and enjoys being lazy 3) parents were in a meaningful union when they were young idea != reality
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Oct 29, 2014 18:11
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i was in a union with your mom's poosay last night, op
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Oct 29, 2014 18:13
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Only the rich are supposed to be able to collaborate with each other, anything else is class warfare Unions also democratize the workplace and libertarians hate mixing democracy and capitalism Zeno-25 fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 18:13
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Dude, what the gently caress did you just say to me
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Oct 29, 2014 18:14
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There may be some concept called "Libertarianism" that would be OK with unions, but in practice people that identify as Libertarian are actually just extreme Republicans that smoke weed. hth
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Oct 29, 2014 18:17
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LifeSizePotato posted:but workers form them freely as a result of the free market. it seems like an arbitrary cap on how "free" the market really is no it makes them immune from free market forces for the duration of their union contract with their employer. If workers want higher wages, they need to instead of voting democrat or republican just vote for people that will create a labor shortage in the workforce, making them valuable. Increase tarrifs, slash or remove all immigration, heck promote women staying home as birthing machines again, and cut down the available work force to force wages up.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:23
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1gnoirents posted:im pretty convinced anybody who defends unions in 2014 has That's like saying that because cops are lovely like 99 times out of 100 we don't need cops. The very fact that we need them so badly is exactly why they usually end up so lovely.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:27
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mind the walrus posted:That's like saying that because cops are lovely like 99 times out of 100 we don't need cops. The very fact that we need them so badly is exactly why they usually end up so lovely. not really just decriminalize shooting people for acting lovely in public, no need for cops because that's their number one function.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:28
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libertarians are incapable of love. it would be against their rational self-interest.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:31
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Oh yeah let's expect the libertarians to logically look at the world. And while we're at it could you ask Kate Upton if she'll come give me a dick massage?
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Oct 29, 2014 18:32
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Going on strike or having a sit in is an assault on the bosses private property.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:36
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I am not a book posted:Oh yeah let's expect the libertarians to logically look at the world. And while we're at it could you ask Kate Upton if she'll come give me a dick massage? I asked and Kate said “To say "I love you" one must know first how to say the "I".”
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Oct 29, 2014 18:36
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TOILETLORD posted:no it makes them immune from free market forces for the duration of their union contract with their employer. If workers want higher wages, they need to instead of voting democrat or republican just vote for people that will create a labor shortage in the workforce, making them valuable. Increase tarrifs, slash or remove all immigration, heck promote women staying home as birthing machines again, and cut down the available work force to force wages up. Lol, yeah that totally won't result in manufacturing jobs being shipped overseas.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:37
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Melmac posted:I asked and Kate said "is man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?" It's not sweat I'm thinking about  It's the blood of the capitalists edit: you ninjaediting sonofabitch
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Oct 29, 2014 18:38
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skeletonotherkin posted:Lol, yeah that totally won't result in manufacturing jobs being shipped overseas. if tarrifs for incoming goods are raised to the point that isn't feasible, then no no they won't.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:39
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TOILETLORD posted:if tarrifs for incoming goods are raised to the point that isn't feasible, then no no they won't. Wait, why are you, a libertarian arguing for loving tarrifs?
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Oct 29, 2014 18:41
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skeletonotherkin posted:Wait, why are you, a libertarian arguing for loving tarrifs? because i'm a fiscal republican.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:42
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more like lolbertarians right guys? 
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TOILETLORD posted:because i'm a fiscal republican. My bad, I only half read your post. City of Tampa posted:There may be some concept called "Libertarianism" that would be OK with unions, but in practice people that identify as Libertarian are actually just extreme Republicans that smoke weed. hth 
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skeletonotherkin posted:My bad, I only half read your post. also i work in a union currently, all my raises are determined by how many hours for the company i work over time and nothing else so i work less than people doing the same work as me for higher pay. this is what people mean when they say unions are for the lazy, they mean it limits incentive to work.
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1gnoirents posted:Dude, what the gently caress did you just say to me I also hung out in your mom's vagina.
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TOILETLORD posted:also i work in a union currently, all my raises are determined by how many hours for the company i work over time and nothing else so i work less than people doing the same work as me for higher pay. this is what people mean when they say unions are for the lazy, they mean it limits incentive to work. Good, in our post-scarcity society all work is meaningless and should be limited as much as possible.
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Oct 29, 2014 18:57
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libertarians hate unions because they're temporarily embarrassed captains of industry and unions make exploiting their soon-to-be-self-made-industry's workforce harder
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Oct 29, 2014 18:59
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BeefThief posted:libertarians love getting hosed in the rear end by their bosses or loving their employees in the rear end. all other considerations are secondary. yeah pretty much this
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Parallax Scroll posted:they also dont want taxes to pay for roads Um if you even do Venn diagrams you would realize that intersections and unions are different. Idiot.
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Oct 29, 2014 19:14
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most taxes that are collected aren't really used for anything good, most of our infrastructure is falling apart due to our tax dollars, for repairs being wasted by politicians, padding their pockets, and their friends pockets with money until nothing gets done. how can it hurt to just let people keep more of their money if the work never gets done anyway?
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TOILETLORD posted:also i work in a union currently, all my raises are determined by how many hours for the company i work over time and nothing else so i work less than people doing the same work as me for higher pay. this is what people mean when they say unions are for the lazy, they mean it limits incentive to work. At my current non-union job, the competent low level employees are the only ones who ever enforce discipline. Management is largely unconcerned and detached. Despite this we do quite well and survived the recession while many of our competitors didn't. In addition to this most of my work life has been spent dealing with modern day Taylorism at various retail jobs. I've always had my work ethic taken advantage of in one way or another. Also in response to your last post regarding tariffs, I can't imagine capital not eventually finding a way to undermine such legislation. skeletonotherkin fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Oct 29, 2014 |
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Oct 29, 2014 19:22
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gender illusionist posted:Shouldn't librarians love unicorns? I think they do.👉👈
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I know "union workers are lazy" is one of those common knowledge things but don't all the stats actually show they're on average more productive?
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