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JcDent posted:Also, that last loving cutscene. That loving general. That's why I love that general: he was clearly written to be the sum of every single "bad commander" that ever existed. "Don't wait to PID the targets, just blow them sky-high" *kills his own allies* "The guys that know better told me it's better to wait before sending in the Army?!" *sends in Rangers immediately just to show 'em* "I don't care if you are in Bagram and have a better grasp on the local situation: I'm late for my cup of coffee, so just follow my orders!" You cannot hate someone written as hilariously as he is. 
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JcDent posted:Also, that last loving cutscene. That loving general. I take it this is where DICE got the inspiration for those barely-competent interrogator guys in Battlefield 3.
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radintorov posted:That's why I love that general: he was clearly written to be the sum of every single "bad commander" that ever existed. Too bad the last time you see him you end up agreeing with his decision because the game is terrible at making you care about its characters.
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Uhh, didn't we record this episode already? Or was it unusable due to Arnold tripping balls?
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Scarf posted:Uhh, didn't we record this episode already? Or was it unusable due to Arnold tripping balls? Yes. Never again will I take Ahnuld's word for it that he was totally able to do a second recording while he is tripping balls.
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Lazyfire posted:Too bad the last time you see him you end up agreeing with his decision because the game is terrible at making you care about its characters. Turns out that even he can make a sound decision once every decade.  But we'll see that when we get there.
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This game seems pretty committed to putting civilian Afghans in mortal danger like once per level.
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Glazius posted:This game seems pretty committed to putting civilian Afghans in mortal danger like once per level. "Just strangle him until he stops moving. He'll be fine."
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chitoryu12 posted:"Just strangle him until he stops moving. He'll be fine." The US Army heavily recruits from the WWF.
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Lazyfire posted:The US Army heavily recruits from the WWF.  He was actually a Marine.
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 This video we take the role of another playable character. For as much as we talk about this game being like Call of Duty, the Ranger missions are really what remind me of that franchise. While the SEALS and Delta Force guys (Rabbit and Deuce) are more likely to go in silently and have to sneak around a bit the Rangers tend to charge headlong into enemy positions and emplacements like it's a job. For some reason the game still didn't see fit to give you a sufficiently large force to make it seem like you were part of a major assault and instead stick you with the same 4 person crew size all other missions seem to cap out at. This game, man, this game. GIFs 
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Lazyfire posted:Rangers tend to charge headlong into enemy positions and emplacements like it's a job. For some reason the game still didn't see fit to give you a sufficiently large force to make it seem like you were part of a major assault and instead stick you with the same 4 person crew size all other missions seem to cap out at. And the scene with the emplaced MG was a pain the first time I played it because the scripting broke: no matter how much I was shooting at it, I couldn't suppress it. Finally, the last sequence is pretty cool the first time in since the idea of having to hold off against a larger force while hiding behind cover that is getting reduced over time is interesting, but the infinite ammo does ruin it: the way I would've done it is to check how much ammo the player has when the cutscene happens and if it's below a certain threshold it would be refilled up to it, ammo pickups from teammates are disabled and the pistol is given finite ammo. But again, the devs didn't.
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Hey look! The the BF4 title scroll! This game is so... Firmly mediocre. It's not BAD, it's just... ehhhhhhhh. It's disappointing because with a few different decisions this could have been a really solid shooter. The gunplay is pretty great, the sound design is fantastic, the feel is there. It's like having a pizza with a fantastic crust and topping it with month old toppings.
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This is the level that shows the people who made this game have no understanding of pacing at all. The first mission of a brand new batch of characters you don't know from anybody is not where you put the "emotional and heroic last stand" point of your game, and you especially don't make that last stand take 6 minutes to finish.
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God bless, you guys are nailing it in this episode! I just love the Ranger qualification segment. Also, fun things from Wikipedia: The AC-130 in the last episode that nailed the convoy? Killed a special forces operator commanding it. The guys in today's mission? Supposed to be Mountain Troops and guys from 101st Airborne. A Polish guy who didn't even have US citizenship yet (yet somehow reached rank of Staff Sergeant... You Americans are weird) won a Bronze star for his actions. A game so authentic, can't even get US units rights. E: And apparently AC-130s don't fly in daylight since once crashed during the first Desert Storm. E:E: The sequel to 300 wasn't better than this 
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JcDent posted:E: And apparently AC-130s don't fly in daylight since once crashed during the first Desert Storm. Of course at the altitude it was flying in the video I could've probably hit it with a slingshot, but that's besides the point.
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It's unfortunate, I actually remember that scene with the rangers being the highlight of the campaign for me, because it got the atmosphere right. I also had neglected to ever get close enough to my squadmates to see the "ask for ammo" prompt, so I was actually running really low by the time the scene was over. Most of the poo poo in this game is so aggressively bland and weak, though. Holding out in that lovely hut would have been better served as a climactic setpiece where a few friendlies you actually care about die.
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The player never actually drops the magazine from his pistol. He just presses the mag release, catches it off-screen and puts in back into the gun. A.K.A. The Goldeneye effect
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All rangers go through an intensive 5 week course in loading a shotgun like that. The written part of the test is widely regarded as the most difficult in the army, and the inbox for answers is only open for 0.2 seconds.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:The player never actually drops the magazine from his pistol. He just presses the mag release, catches it off-screen and puts in back into the gun. A.K.A. The Goldeneye effect The mag has the word "infinity" in Arabic etched into the floor plate, so it automatically refills itself whenever it's not loaded into a weapon. It's the same for all your  ).
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You guys know jack poo poo. You see, when he takes out the pistol mag, it's to air it out to refill it with "boolits". Air in Aghanistan is extremely thick with these... things and pistol mags are their natural nesting grounds. They migrate partially through osmosis, that's why they fill up a mag. Now a "round" is a totally different beast, existing in a parallel phase of existence. You bet you rear end some scientists killed themselves when they discovered what is now called "4.73×33mm caseless"...
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Sadly, this last episode wasn't great for .GIFs, but have a combination of two dismemberments that happened back to back.
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Lazyfire posted:
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I thought up a way that last stand could've been made more epic less time than it took to watch the sequence: When asking for ammo during the last stand, instead of being given 1200 rounds in belts, you're given a couple of 30 round M16 magazines instead and have to use those. (The M249 can be loaded with STANAG magazines instead of belts, but it apparently messes the magazines up some, so you'd only want to use it during emergencies.) Buut, that would require  E: The big black thing coming out of the ETAC's backpack is a UHF antenna. VKing fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Dec 2, 2014 |
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 Wait, I was wrong earlier when I said that the 4-wheeler mission was the most boring in the game. This is it. The COD4 AC-130 mission hosed so much up for future modern military shooters by setting such a high bar that everything else will just seem boring in comparison. Of course, you were able to kill guys in any means you saw fit in the AC-130 mission so it was pretty painless if you knew what you were doing. In this mission even if you know exactly what is happening you still have to wait for the game to give you cues which is really, really annoying and dumb and makes this mission run longer than the five minute distraction it should have been. At least it's short.
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Holy poo poo that was an atrocious level, like I couldn't even finish it. Compare to Wolfenstein the New Order where I was disappointed that the video ended after "only" a half hour.
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I really don't see the need for mounted gun sections that last more than about 3-5 minutes in any game. They're so rarely actually interesting.
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Somehow even worse than the F/A-18 mission from BF3.
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The Casualty posted:Somehow even worse than the F/A-18 mission from BF3. Whoa, whoa, let's not say things we can't take back.
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The Casualty posted:Somehow even worse than the F/A-18 mission from BF3. Fun fact: Player character in this level has the last name Hawkins, just like the F-18 player character and like the helicopter pilot that gets shot down in the first mission in BF4.
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1stGear posted:Whoa, whoa, let's not say things we can't take back. I'm somewhat sympathetic to that mission only because I used to fix Super Hornets, I have no emotional ties to some dumb helicopter rail shooter that fails for the exact same reasons though
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I feel like the only way I would really like this game is if I'd gotten in back during that stage of life where I only had enough money for like, one game a year (plus getting one on Christmas), so I would force myself to enjoy a game because I didn't want to regret buying a piece of garbage that I'd have to play for like, 6 months. But this game did not come out at that stage of my life. And it's gross.
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Well, at least you guys made it funny. After I finished Modern Warfare, I kept playing the AC-130 and the plane infitration missions over and over. Now that was a good game. Pity Medal of Honor decided to be a bullet point copy.
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 So sniping in this game is totally a thing. I really don't have a lot to say about this episode. If I get to the point where I throw out middle school insults as an attempt to find something, anything to talk about you know things are in dire straits. Maybe because 3 Toes wasn't here we had an off night, I don't know, just the overwhelming badness of this game is getting to me I think and Ahnuld and I couldn't find anything to talk about besides everything the game does wrong. The weird thing is that this game isn't even that bad, it just is aggressively not good. Each good idea was quickly tethered to a rock before it could go anywhere during development. You see that the developers had a vision and either didn't have enough money or enough time to make it happen; you see potential but never a payoff. Only two more videos of this, that's the light at the end of the tunnel here.
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M60s are still being used, especially by Navy SEALs like our protagonists.  And Ahnuld comment on the game having issues by trying to be both CoD and going for a more "realistic" tone is pretty spot on.
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Not sure if you noticed, but the video on mobile was paused for me when it began. The trees were the only part of the far mountainside to be loaded; the mountain itself was nonexistent and you just saw the skybox. The game kept going for a second or two with the textures loading.
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The laser rangefinder is also operating as a laser microphone.
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Did I just see an AK float up into the sky at about 6 minutes? I'd imagine it was because of the grenade you threw a little earlier, but the flying gun looked to be moving way too slowly for it to be from an explosion. EDIT: I'd imagine the sound you hear when you shoot people with the M107 is the generic hit-marker sound that really has no business showing up outside of multiplayer. Also, that third time you set it up, I noticed the bipod was already deployed for half a second before it suddenly flipped back closed and Deuce had to deploy it again. Kadorhal fucked around with this message at 04:48 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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I think what makes the game bad is that it had so much potential. It nails bread and butter stuff like the gunplay and the sound, but is just so ERRRRRRRGH when it comes to plot or having characters that we should give a drat about. We talked about this in the episode with the "final stand." That could have been AMAZING had they 1) developed the characters at all and 2) made it a real final stand, not whack-a-mole. The halfway "realism" just makes it terribad, either commit to full on YOU MUST SAVE THE WORLD FROM THE EVIL GENERAL ala CoD, or make it a real, plot driven story that's at least interesting (see: Spec Ops: The Line). That the game gets so things right that a lot of shooters don't I think makes it a much more frustrating experience.
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