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Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


RZApublican posted:

Speaking of which (and because I can't remember the events in question) what exactly is the AUS's path to anything other than tyranny? Are there specific events for it or is just a matter of not doing the most fascist option possible in the "after the war" events.

Yeah, your only option is being a super-benevolent dictatorship. You have to put down a coup, but after that things are smooth. Their postwar path is not well developed- not like it matters, because I've never seen them win.

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Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
What are the different AUS flags?

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

JT Jag posted:

I mean we have to keep in mind, considering some of the framing devices that have been used, that the Syndicalists are fated to win. It's going to happen. The future is Red.

The fun part is watching how it happens.

Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. The LP isn't really about making things a challenge for CSM by switching to other countries, etc.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
I'll use the intermission games for that. Speaking of, I'm thinking about adding an installation of 1.6 and playing either Italian Federation, an Indian state, a South American state or maybe Sweden or Serbia. Any game it is will likely be significantly shorter than the Mongolia one, because most nations aren't geared towards enormous conquest like they are. Instead, I'll set some goals and play through the nation's 'storyline' so to speak.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Sweden has crap for content. I recommend somewhere in India or Brazil.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Chief Savage Man posted:

I'll use the intermission games for that. Speaking of, I'm thinking about adding an installation of 1.6 and playing either Italian Federation, an Indian state, a South American state or maybe Sweden or Serbia.

Italian Federation is fun because you can go so many places with it.

Brony Hunter
Dec 27, 2012

Motherfucking Mannis

They'll bend the knee or I'll destroy them
I vote for Italian Federation!

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Are we using the current version or the 1.6 update? Because I can't recommend India unless its the new version.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Kavak posted:

Are we using the current version or the 1.6 update? Because I can't recommend India unless its the new version.

It'll be 1.6. I thought I had to rush through
through and finish this game to upgrade but then I remembered how the mod system works.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.
I can't say I recommend Italy either, as either end is mostly waiting for someone else's success.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

Chief Savage Man posted:

I'll use the intermission games for that. Speaking of, I'm thinking about adding an installation of 1.6 and playing either Italian Federation, an Indian state, a South American state or maybe Sweden or Serbia. Any game it is will likely be significantly shorter than the Mongolia one, because most nations aren't geared towards enormous conquest like they are. Instead, I'll set some goals and play through the nation's 'storyline' so to speak.

Brazil is good. An Egypt game might be interesting, or maybe Greece? I'd like to see the Megali Idea accomplished, never managed it myself.

Fluffy Tail
Jan 3, 2012

"I am the beginning and the end. The alpha and the omega. The first and the last."

Chaos Dunk

Chief Savage Man posted:

I'll use the intermission games for that. Speaking of, I'm thinking about adding an installation of 1.6 and playing either Italian Federation, an Indian state, a South American state or maybe Sweden or Serbia. Any game it is will likely be significantly shorter than the Mongolia one, because most nations aren't geared towards enormous conquest like they are. Instead, I'll set some goals and play through the nation's 'storyline' so to speak.

Serbia or Iron Guard Romania are both good fun. Serbia tends to be a little too dependent on Austria-Hungary exploding, but the payoff is very nice.

Otherwise La Plata, simply because I tried it, no-one would trade me any energy, and my IC dropped to nothing. So I'd like to see it succeed!

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
Does Kurdistan have any events? The independence struggle against the ottomans might be fun but I dunno if they can go anywhere since I've never not seen them get eaten.

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Does Kurdistan have any events? The independence struggle against the ottomans might be fun but I dunno if they can go anywhere since I've never not seen them get eaten.

They achieved independence in the Mongolia game and as far as I noticed, there's basically nothing going with them.

beefart
Jul 5, 2007

IT'S ON THE HOUSE OF AMON
~grandmaaaaaaa~
Italian Federation would be great. I've had really satisfying games with every potential pope/leader (minus Pius XII).

I'd also suggest Serbia because of its compelling storyline of revenge against neighboring Balkan powers that has the potential to turn me into a Paradox forums-grade Balkan nationalist. Plus there's a little Byzantophilia/Megali Idea stuff in there if everything goes right with the Belgrade Pact!

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Chapter Thirteen: Cover Your Flanks (July-August 1940)

Excerpt from The Revolutionary Marines: A History



The Revolutionary Marines were utilized in a number of fronts during the Great North American War, the first of which was the invasion of Cuba that commenced on July 10th, the same day of the declaration of war against the Entente. The landing force sailed through the night in secret from Miami to the south of Cuba, surprising the Cubans who were expecting a direct attack on Havana from the north. The Marines landed in the Bay of Pigs area, utilizing the beachhead of Playa Larga to land divisions. Within days, the Marines had gained control of most of the Santa Clara province.



The Marines, having bisected the island, were then able to surround and attack the garrison of the capital in Havana.



The Cubans were ill-equipped, ill-trained and ill-prepared for the invasion. The withering artillery fire from the First Revolutionary Marines led to the surrender of the city's garrison only a few days after the first shells fell.



The rapid victory on land was accompanied by some attendant victories on sea. The Royal Canadian Navy had attempted to interfere with the supply ships once it became clear what was going on, but the handful of raiding cruisers were quickly dispatched by the big guns of the American battleships.



The Canadians elected to respond with a raid on the port of Miami, utilizing four aircraft carriers in the surprise attack.



The aim was to prevent the use of Miami as a staging port for further amphibious operations in the Caribbean, and the Canadians were somewhat successful in that regard. The port was heavily damaged, and about two thousand American servicemen were killed or wounded in addition to the sinking of 19 troopships.



The response was dramatic and was utilized as propaganda for the populations of the Entente nations, but its actual strategic effect was minimal, as Cuba was doomed without significant reinforcement. Recently declassified documents from the American Red Army demonstrate that there were no plans to launch operations beyond Cuba until the rest of War Plan Red had been successfully executed.



The precarious state of the Entente on every other front meant that there was no reinforcements to be had, and so the government of Cuba abandoned the capital and fled, along with a significant number of Union State exiles, to Jamaica.



Another reason why the Miami operation had limited success was because the Americans had secured another Caribbean port. While the port of Havana had been severely damaged by the artillery fire of the Marines, the former American naval base at Guantanamo Bay was undamaged, and was thus immediately available to support a large fleet.



The Marines established contact with Cuban syndicalists who had been driven underground and within days, a provisional syndicalist government was proclaimed in Havana. The Americans did not press the claims of the former United States to the Guantanamo base, but the new Cuban government was immediately inducted into the Organization of American Syndicates, giving the Americans license to use the base to defend the newly socialist state of Cuba.

-------------------------

A pair of letters between Centroamerican soldiers, from August 1940.

Mi hermano,

I have missed you tremendously since you departed, but I'm happy to say that we are finished down here.



The enemy surrendered the canal to our superior numbers and we have established control over the territory. You should see the joyous celebrations here! Central America is finally free of foreigners.



It's going to be hard work getting the canal ready for all the traffic the Americans need to put through it, but we're getting there. We've already set up coastal guns and scared off a Caribbean destroyer. We control one of the two most important waterways in the world, Jorge, it's wonderful!



I need to get back to work, the American battleships are going to be coming through within a few days, and the Canadians tried to sabotage parts of the canal to make it too narrow for them to pass through. Nothing too serious though. The commissar can't tell me where they sent you, but he says that they'll be able to get this letter to you wherever you are. Write back as soon as you get it! I want to hear all about what you've seen!

Cordialmente,

Roberto

-------------------------

Roberto,

It feels like yesterday when we were called into the commander's tent and told that the high command wanted to separate brothers so as not to ruin our mothers in case of disaster. You looked me in the eye and said "Hermano, it ought to be you who gets to see the world." I should get the opportunity to see the world and meet its fine women, since you have a wife and I do not. How lovely you made it seem! "Maybe you'll get sent to Paris as an observer, and meet a beautiful French lady! Or perhaps you'll take back Hawaii, and surf with the island girls!" Spectacular! So many possibilities! And of all of those, guess where I was sent?



loving Saskatchewan.



There is nothing but goddamn prairie and farms here. Every other day or so, we march past a farmhouse and the farmer's daughters stand on their porches giving us the evil eye. I spent ten goddamn days marching west, with an unhelpful comrade telling me that at least we'll get to see the Rockies. Mountains! How wonderful! I can barely contain my excitement!



While you sat at the canal waving to the ships and drinking cocktails on the beach, I was doing my best to save some Americans from being evicted from Fort Peck, Montana, which is obviously the worst calamity that could ever befall anybody. God forbid we lose Fort Peck.



And the radio tries to get us excited about what else is going on. The Canadians took Grand Forks! Never heard of Grand Forks? THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.



I wonder if they gave the British boys serving General Rose the same sack of poo poo you gave me. "Go to America, lads! You'll be loving movie stars in California! Wait, just kidding, you'll be loving cattle in Winnipeg! Outstanding!"



I will admit that the mountains looked quite impressive in the distance. Which is as close as we ever got before a bunch of Canadian light armor attacked us.



And now I'm oh so glad that we saved Fort Peck. Because we're retreating there! Oh boy!!!



And the radio just gave us the most tragic news! Regina has fallen! Oh no, the Canadians now control half of the mosquitoes in North America!



Good thing Rose is taking his British boys there to get stung to death like we were. So I must thank you, Roberto, for your selfless sacrifice. While you sit on a peaceful beach thirty miles from your wife, I am so very lucky to be chased across the prairie by mosquitoes and angry white men in small tanks. I was hoping for the Parisian beauties but hey, maybe one of these Bible-clutching farmgirls will give me a peck on the cheek after six months of courtship.

Con resentimientio,

Jorge

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Wow, that sounded personal. :v:

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
Suffice it to say I have been to Regina.

Once.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


What're you trying to do out there, anyway? You've got Winnipeg, you don't need anything else in the plains.

Next update we take down the Caribbean and Canada, right? Or do we leave the Federation for after we've dealt with the big naval threat?

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Kavak posted:

What're you trying to do out there, anyway? You've got Winnipeg, you don't need anything else in the plains.

Next update we take down the Caribbean and Canada, right? Or do we leave the Federation for after we've dealt with the big naval threat?

I wanted to protect the northern flank of the attack into Washington, which we'll see next update.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Poor Jorge. Well, it could be worse. Somehow? Surely?

Edit: Ah! At least it's not winter! Yet!

Dibujante
Jul 27, 2004

Chief Savage Man posted:

Suffice it to say I have been to Regina.

Once.

I lived there for four years; can confirm.

At least he's likely perpetually drunk at this point.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Dibujante posted:

I lived there for four years; can confirm.

At least he's likely perpetually drunk at this point.

Pretty much the only way to pass the winter on the Great Plains. :smith:

xthnru
Apr 6, 2007

FUCK YOU GUYS. I'm out.
I am finally caught up on this thread ,and I can only give you heaps of praise for your narrative style, and the way you reflect the era in your writing. Excellent work.

Also, as a Wobbly, this is basically erotic fan fiction. :v:

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

maybe i missed it but where's the supreme court in all this? in real life they'd been a bastion of conservative reaction for generations, really, by the time this scenario starts. do we just wipe them off the map with the civil war scenario or do they get to play a role? i can just imagine a holy roman empire-style USA with federal institutions preserving the fiction of unity and representing interests favoring domestic peace or w/e

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Pretty much assumed that they're irrelevant if MacArthur cancels the elections, or marginalized and ignored in the lead-up to the civil war if the elections go through.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

xthnru posted:

I am finally caught up on this thread ,and I can only give you heaps of praise for your narrative style, and the way you reflect the era in your writing. Excellent work.

Also, as a Wobbly, this is basically erotic fan fiction. :v:

Heyo, fellow worker! :respek:

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug
I've been going with that MacArthur's actions laid the legitimacy/constitutionality of the United States Government to waste before the outbreak of civil war and that the CSA maybe used their military control over conquered states as well as the secession of the Pacific and New English States to ram through a dramatic overhaul of the Constitution to mirror the structure desired by the new government. Maybe. I haven't given it a lot of consideration because the technicalities involved would probably end up with the narrative contradicting itself constantly.

Redeye Flight
Mar 26, 2010

God, I'm so tired. What the hell did I post last night?
The concept of a Supreme Court seems like it would be in line, or at least not OUT of line, with the way the rest of the CSA society tends to function. Apart from a reshuffling of the members and the aggressive stripping of pro-corporate legal precedent, I can't think of a reason the Court wouldn't be continued as a branch of the government.

What would be REALLY funny, in my mind, would be them deciding to increase it to thirteen justices.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


The postwar events make no mention of what the CSA's court system is like, but for their part the AUS makes the justices elected officials.

I guess it depends on who succeeds/works with Reed- Thomas and the social democrats would probably create a similar court system, maybe even keep the courts from loyal states intact, and the more radical groups would create varying degrees of "syndicated" judicial systems. The guys in charge in this LP seem pretty middle-of-the-road, so I'm picturing that new constitution as including a judicial branch based off of whatever the British did to their courts after the revolution.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

xthnru posted:

I am finally caught up on this thread ,and I can only give you heaps of praise for your narrative style, and the way you reflect the era in your writing. Excellent work.

Also, as a Wobbly, this is basically erotic fan fiction. :v:

The Socialist Workers Party of the United Kingdom Union of Britain extends a hand in the firmest traditions of brotherhood to you and all comrades on the other side of the pond.

Great to read an LP of a better world!

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

lenoon posted:

The Socialist Workers Party of the United Kingdom Union of Britain extends a hand in the firmest traditions of brotherhood to you and all comrades on the other side of the pond.

Great to read an LP of a better world!

Bet there's a loving newspaper in that hand.

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Ah in truth I stopped being a paying member of the SWP when i realised they were rape-apologist idiots tbh. Haven't sold a poorly copy read newspaper in a while! I get the morning star these days, fewer spelling errors

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

I'm all about the Weekly Worker for my leftist gossip. I hope Kaiserreich will feature more internal leftist squabbling to be honest.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


People have been asking for a Totalist-Syndicalist split for postwar content for a long time, but late game stuff is incredibly hard to program. It'd probably end up pretty bland too- "You're totalist? You are now at war with everyone who isn't, have fun."

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

What about an Internationale held after the end of the war? Then you could at least influence it.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
What about a series of options that allow you to cause uprisings in Syndicate-run nations, and then step in to help "restore socialism," which just so happens to be Totalist! Add a chance for the world to find out the truth that increases every time you do it, and ramps up in difficulty and cost the bigger the nation.

So you can just say "no thanks" to all the events and peace out with your socialist buddies, or you can go full Stalin and slowly nibble down your allies until the jig is finally up, then take your puppet states and launch the final World War. :unsmigghh:

xthnru
Apr 6, 2007

FUCK YOU GUYS. I'm out.

Mister Bates posted:

Heyo, fellow worker! :respek:

Solidarity from iu640 in the southeast! Look for the up-and-coming Alabama GMB in the near future!

lenoon posted:

The Socialist Workers Party of the United Kingdom Union of Britain extends a hand in the firmest traditions of brotherhood to you and all comrades on the other side of the pond.

Great to read an LP of a better world!

Hello, comrade!

lenoon posted:

Ah in truth I stopped being a paying member of the SWP when i realised they were rape-apologist idiots tbh. Haven't sold a poorly copy read newspaper in a while! I get the morning star these days, fewer spelling errors

Sounds like y'all need more direct action in your lives!

Also, chiming in support for an Italian intermission because partigiani have the best music:

https://youtu.be/ePP9AHrncjQ?list=PL87EEBD465E870CA4

csm141
Jul 19, 2010

i care, i'm listening, i can help you without giving any advice
Pillbug

Jeoh posted:

What about an Internationale held after the end of the war? Then you could at least influence it.

There is a Third Congress in the events for after the big war, we should end up seeing those events.

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vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

Are there any Chinese events for a "People's Republic of China" of sorts? I formed the Republic of China as AOG but was disappointed there wasn't really an option to go full socialist.

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