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Rogue0071 posted:The short version of it is that one of the main creators of the mod was a syndicalist (which historically was a tendency mostly limited to France, Spain, and small groups in Italy, and the French branch got largely wiped out during WW1) and thought it would be cool for socialism to be alt hist/differently named and their pet tendency to be dominant. I always wondered if something like this was the case. It's hard to imagine a mod like this being made by someone who wasn't very sympathetic to leftism, it's quite different in character to the nationalist 1000-year Serbian Empire type games I associate Paradox playthroughs with.
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# ¿ Nov 22, 2014 05:46 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 00:07 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Btw best LP for how cathartic it is to imagine a left wing victory in the US. Dang. I think this is intentional on the part of the mod developers, setting up a world where the far left is in a much stronger position, and probably one of the reasons for its enduring popularity beyond the fact that it's so extensive and well written.
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# ¿ Nov 23, 2014 00:31 |
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If I recall, there wasn't much American representation among the developers and the US has less flavor events like that than Europe does.
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# ¿ Nov 25, 2014 07:00 |
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I'd love to get DH just to try Kaiserreich myself. My profile is e: thank you! Kellsterik fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Dec 28, 2014 |
# ¿ Dec 27, 2014 09:36 |
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I like the idea of the rest of the world (read: Europe) dismissing Sternberg as just some wacko running around in the steppe, irrelevant to their Big Important Ideas of syndicalism/restoring the Entente, and generally laughing off the whole crazy thing until it's much, much too late. Mongolia isn't quite a joke character, it's just totally irrelevant to the overall conflicts of the setting, and that's the weird beauty of them becoming so powerful that everything else is rendered moot. There's an important lesson in this story for people who imagine they can control the tide of history: it only works if you're Genghis Khan.
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# ¿ Dec 29, 2014 11:40 |
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Does anyone have an event to send troops to the AUS, or do they start with a manpower advantage?
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2015 17:39 |
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IXIX posted:If you had asked a Russian in 1914, they would have also said that religion was extremely integral to their culture and life. Certainly not notably less so than the U.S. on average. Yeah, accurately. Religious material was common in samizdat, including the work of some of the USSR's major dissident writers (eg Master and Margarita), and the Orthodox Church has clearly come back swinging as a major influence in Russia after ~70 years of suppression. There isn't really one single national church organization the CSA would have to deal with, but I think some event would be in order to address national religious policy. Obviously our guys would have a different response than the Totalists, but it would come up. Isn't CS Lewis a minister in the UoB as some kind of vocally anti-Christian neopagan firebrand, or am I misremembering the wiki?
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2015 00:03 |
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He's of that archetype that's more of a philosophical rival/antagonist to the hero who isn't above working with him against a greater evil than an "irredeemably evil supervillain", although he's often been a dupe for the Red Skull (see also the original series Star Trek episode where a well-meaning pacifist movement prior to WW2 causes the Nazis to win because they just don't get it). I vaguely remember Cap's reaction being along the lines of "well I don't begrudge your political opinions, but you can't take airliners full of people hostage."
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 06:56 |
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There are people on the Kaiserreich forum who want there to be an option for France to focus on building syndicalism and peacefully demonstrating its value to other countries without going to war with their neighbors. Lol
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2015 18:59 |
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Really good update. So "lightning war" is known as an American innovation now?
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2015 17:07 |
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Who all comprises the Entente right now? It seems like the North American situation would be cause for the whole alliance going all-in to defend Canada, but maybe they are and it's just not helping.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 16:33 |
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It's just disappointing that the Entente seems to have a problem recognizing "this is a really, really serious threat that we need to get on top of" and providing a strong challenge. It seems anticlimactic for Canada to more or less roll over (as I assume it will).
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 17:03 |
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Pushed back in Hawaii? Syndies kicked out of Spain? Totalist Canada? Man, I am unreasonably excited about how things are shaping up. I'm sure the King-in-even-more-exile is perversely happy to be proven right, but the Canadian people probably aren't too happy with America right now.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2015 03:34 |
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Are there any other Totalists besides Canada? I'm still holding out hope for the 1984 event chain in Britain.RZApublican posted:Time for a coup Yes, I think we can agree that more foreign intervention is the solution here.
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2015 05:45 |
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I was wondering this when the Canada trade union conference event came up- do you pretty much choose which direction you want to go down in the first few events and it stays that way, or is it more fluid with later events giving a chance to switch? Basically, how likely is it that the currently existing Syndicalist states will go Totalist or otherwise change their orientation? Are we most likely to see new ones if more countries are conquered and puppeted and they pick that option in their event chain?
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# ¿ Apr 2, 2015 05:54 |
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I'm extremely excited for this! I'm pretty familiar with interwar India in reality and i'm really looking forward to seeing the new events. Any chance of you picking Gandhi's faction? I can imagine some interesting events if his government is put in a position of having to choose between domestic priorities of building agrarian socialism and the need to build industry to beat the other powers militarily. Gandhi did not have many nice things to say about industrialization historically, he was really strongly about orienting society toward villages and rural life rather than Westernized cities.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2015 18:03 |
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Jai Hind, Bose Raj, etc. I can only imagine what a Gandhian negotiated unification would even look like in a wargame. Is it all a super unlikely event chain or what, or is it even actually possible?
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 07:17 |
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If the people want an open society more than national liberation, they can move to Delhi and bow to the King again. *note: the people are not actually allowed to leave
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# ¿ Apr 5, 2015 08:28 |
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I'm really impressed with how interlocking and reactive these events are, it looks like the mod developers wrote a really intricate scenario. I like that we might have to deal with domestic anarcho-syndicalists who aren't down with Totalism.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2015 23:44 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Is there any sorta historical precedent for a nation going "Oh welp, better this other guy get my lands than the guy I really hate" or is it just board-gamer mentality shining through? Yeah, that was how a lot of German leaders felt regarding the Western Allies as opposed to the Soviet Union in 1945.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 21:09 |
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I think it comes off as weird because while Entente/Mitteleuropa antagonism seems like the same petty politics that set off WW1, the Internationale is a serious existential threat to Canada and National France especially. I feel like the points of conflict between Mitteleuropa and the Entente aren't as clearly articulated.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2015 00:28 |
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:I suppose it's geography and the advantage of interior lines (perhaps aid in repression from Austria???). It is a bit jarring to have the industrial north be the reactionary papal state and the agricultural, almost feudal, south be the ones supporting the revolutionary vanguard. It's so unrealistic that an agricultural serf society like Russia would have a successful revolution instead of industrialized Germany, the birthplace of socialism. Can we fix that in the next update?
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2015 23:06 |
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I think "untouchability is a sin" on that caste decision is a little bit of poor wording- Gandhi's position historically was that the sin was declaring people untouchable. He definitely wanted to remove the barriers between dalits and the rest of the population and end discrimination against them, but he was opposed to state intervention or "affirmative action" as in the scheduled castes system because he thought it would have unintended consequences by legally/institutionally establishing "these people are not like us". What he wanted ideally was, as in other things, a national satyagraha as a concerted moral appeal to fundamentally change peoples' attitudes and end discrimination at the level of the individual choice. That's what I assume is happening with that choice: the Commune tells people that discrimination against untouchables is sinful and encourages moral changes with mass campaigns, but doesn't actually say like "if you practice segregation, your property will be reassigned to someone who does not."
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# ¿ May 1, 2015 07:38 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Why Asia though? Aren't we ideally placed for taking on Africa and the Middle-East? Not really, we're a lot closer to east/southeast Asia, especially without a navy.
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# ¿ May 4, 2015 02:33 |
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What's the story with the potential separate Asian syndicalist bloc in that one event? Is that new in the recent update?
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# ¿ May 16, 2015 03:20 |
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Well, it will all be worth it when the Chinese people are ruled by a Totalist puppet state.
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# ¿ May 18, 2015 04:24 |
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Drone posted:Kinda surprised there's no syndicalist China tag, but I guess all the free tags have been used up. IIRC this is intentional, as originally the developers consciously wanted to avoid the real historical outcome of the PRC and emphasize the other possibilities. Similar to how forming the USSR is very unlikely, but even more so.
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# ¿ May 22, 2015 08:31 |
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Has anything interesting happened with Totalist Canada? Do they get any event chains or anything?
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# ¿ Jul 22, 2015 18:57 |
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I'm guessing the Detroit anarchist papers are overjoyed about the African Section forcing the hand of the revisionist CSA with direct action
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2015 18:23 |
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Chairman Buck's wintry dystopia is my favorite, if only for the way it casts invading Canada in a kind of questionable light. There have to be at least a few places with a sense of "yeah we might have hosed that one up."
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2015 23:24 |
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Chief Savage Man posted:This does make me wonder how a union or syndicate formed post revolution would come about, be recognized and integrate into the political structure. Like, for example, how would a new industry like computers and software develop in this story line, and then how would those knowledge workers be represented? They wouldn't, because capitalism is the only road to innovation. Welcome to the struggle, valued employee!
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2016 20:29 |
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I actually hope that the Entente signs a peace and remains in power indefinitely in Australia as a kind of Taiwan/ROC situation, an island of internationally unrecognized liberal democratic exiles, still planning and bickering and blaming each other and waiting for the inevitable day when they will ride out again to restore the Empire and finally return everything to Normal.
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2016 16:14 |
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I forgot, what's the current status of Russia right now? They're not Soviet are they?
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2016 20:45 |
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quote:Equestria oh dear god
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# ¿ Feb 20, 2017 01:18 |
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1: B 2: A Seeing a liberal power would be an interesting change of pace for this LP.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2017 21:45 |
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Gotta vote for ABEnomics.
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# ¿ May 11, 2017 20:25 |
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Yes, we should be joining the Entente anyway.
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# ¿ Jun 9, 2017 18:31 |
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I can't decide whether surviving to become the PM of a Japanese client state is a happy ending for Lu Xun or not. His death grudge against Japan as the enemy of China happened during the Russo-Japanese War, which I think still went off normally in the Kaiserreich timeline.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 06:48 |
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ED
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# ¿ Aug 6, 2017 20:05 |
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 00:07 |
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BABB
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2017 17:05 |