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are videogames art?
yes, videogames are most definitely a form of art
no, i do not believe that videogames qualify as art, op
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Bregor
May 31, 2013

People are idiots, Leslie.
Your posting is art, OP

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DoctorStrangelove
Jun 7, 2012

IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT MEIN FUHRER!

Video games: fun things for cool people
Art: stupid crap for idiots


Videogames aren't art.

crowoutofcontext
Nov 12, 2006

nope

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood
dark souls yea but other than that nope

Cucking Mama
Sep 27, 2013

Gold Medalist, 2014 shit post olympics
I do

Arri
Jun 11, 2005
NpNp
art is at its essence social commentary and video games are not allowed to have social commentary. So no, OP, video games are not art.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
They are art, even if most game players don't treat it as art.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


video games are degenerate art, OP

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Sure whatever does it matter?

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Darkman Fanpage posted:

Sure whatever does it matter?

I guess you haven't hear of GAMERGATE.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 245 days!
I reject the bourgeois ideology inherent in the reactionary duality of art/not-art/nature and its implicit phallogocentrim.

As a wise rishi once whispered in my ears;

what if we are pixels dreaming we are goons

makes u think

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Hodgepodge posted:

I reject the bourgeois ideology inherent in the reactionary duality of art/not-art/nature and its implicit phallogocentrim.

Thats pretty cool actually.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

As a proud videogame of color I am offended by this thread.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
They're as much art as Hollywood blockbuster movies are. Or pop music. Or trashy romance novels. If Twilight, Eragon, Fifty Shades, etc. are art, then Call of Duty is art too.

That is to say, okay, video games are art, but remember Sturgeon's law: 90% of art is crap. Video games being art isn't something to be proud. Being art just means your precious games are the equivalent of a giant inflatable butt plug.

Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Nov 1, 2014

Stottie Kyek
Apr 26, 2008

fuckin egg in a bun
No because art is by its nature a subjective thing, and the gamer community demands that video games should be reviewed objectively.

free basket of chips
Sep 7, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I think games have the capacity to become art, like pretty much all other mediums. Some games are art, but not all. Same goes with books and movies, etc. Its mostly up to the individual.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Video Games are the ultimate art form and all previous art forms are obsolete.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

games are fart

OzyMandrill
Aug 12, 2013

Look upon my words
and despair

Games are not art, they are a medium.

GameRs are large. Maybe XXL, even.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

only an artist can make art. games are made by programmers, therefore games are not art.

Pegged Lamb
Nov 5, 2007
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Can't post for 3 years!
an art where you passively take in 60%-70% of the sensory experience, where most things straddle the divide between abstract and naturalist, and the ideas encoded are made by committee. no

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Pegged Lamb posted:

an art where you passively take in 60%-70% of the sensory experience, where most things straddle the divide between abstract and naturalist, and the ideas encoded are made by committee. no

so an indie game made by a single person's vision - this is art?

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

obviously yes, but the question is trivial and uninteresting

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Hodgepodge posted:

I reject the bourgeois ideology inherent in the reactionary duality of art/not-art/nature and its implicit phallogocentrim.

As a wise rishi once whispered in my ears;

what if we are pixels dreaming we are goons

makes u think

Socialist realism is the only revolutionary form of art which will lead the proletariat to freedom

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Peel posted:

obviously yes, but the question is trivial and uninteresting

MUCH LIKE YOUR POSTING!!!!!!

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


TEAYCHES posted:

so an indie game made by a single person's vision - this is art?

Parallax Scroll posted:

only games made in japan

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

icantfindaname posted:

Socialist realism is the only revolutionary form of art which will lead the proletariat to freedom

socialist realism loving blows rear end in a top hat and im 100% purebred communist

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
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icantfindaname posted:

Socialist realism is the only revolutionary form of art which will lead the proletariat to freedom

Confined within the bounds of the bourgeois milieu ("the game"), the agency of the worker ("player") is embedded in the ideological structure of capitalism. Only by rejecting capitalism seizing the means of production ("code") can the worker be free.

The worker still cannot get laid, which requires seizing the "soap" and embedding the worker in the context of "a goddamn shower," whereby the worker liberated to the realm of authentic social self-constitution.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


TEAYCHES posted:

socialist realism loving blows rear end in a top hat and im 100% purebred communist

okay then, make anime and JRPGs the official state-sponsored art form of the socialist revolution

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
video games can be art but they are generally not

dwarf fortress is the only art game

Number Two Stunna
Nov 8, 2009

FUCK
video games are art but they're just really lovely art

also, every game that people like to cite as art is complete garbage.

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
Videogames are like a building that sometimes gets used for art exhibitions and sometimes for laser tag.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

laser tag is art

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Arglebargle III posted:

laser tag is art

a private business operating for profit with proletarian customers cannot properly be called art, but instead a crime against the human race

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Is the purpose of art to entertain, to stimulate human development, or to show off through your consumption as a means of demonstrating your superiority?

Clearly, most video games are structured to fall under at least one of these three.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

icantfindaname posted:

a private business operating for profit with proletarian customers cannot properly be called art, but instead a crime against the human race

not state art=not art gotcha

(I just want to make it clear I don't agree with your definition.)

Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Nov 2, 2014

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Arglebargle III posted:

not state art=not art gotcha

government art owns bitch

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

It's unironically amusing how a manifesto about how each man should be free to do whatever he wants with his time has been warped into the state intruding into and passing ideological judgment on every possible activity.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Arglebargle III posted:

It's unironically amusing how a manifesto about how each man should be free to do whatever he wants with his time has been warped into the state intruding into and passing ideological judgment on every possible activity.

No I think Marx was pretty clear about the Revolution basically dominating the lives of everyone in society. His economics doesn't necessarily require it, but the political stuff definitely leans that way. I'm not a Marxist FYI

Also public arts funding has nothing to do with Marxism, and is good

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Nov 2, 2014

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Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Yeah cool as long as laser tag is art I'll be a marxist sure.

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