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I had to email about 6 people to check the university's travel insurance to ensure that it covered cyclones and civil unrest the other day, not even kidding.

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Ipsos is off a bit, apparently.

e; can't wait for the page 10 newspoll release in the Oz tomorrow

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Kommando posted:

Brisgoons

G20 Aftermath Goonmeet.


The weekend after, we assemble at the side of the wreckage of brisbane society and drink to forget.

All in favor say Aye.

What date is this?

E; oh, 22nd. Won't be there for that

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Ep 2 of the Media Circus was a lot better and made me laugh :3: Also, totally in love with that Fairfax reporter that's not Annabel Crabbe but looks identical to her.

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There's a fantastic montage of speeches on the ABC coverage on iView, starting at 19:40 or so. Well worth watching, and whoever's the music producer for the ABC needs a medal (also because they use Two Steps From Hell for so much ABC advertising).

e; jesus, the boos for Abbott were louder than the cheers for Keating

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Les Affaires posted:

There were boos for Abbott? At a loving memorial?

You should've seen the crowd's reaction for Ruddock

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nockturne posted:

Is this cached anywhere? Heard it on the radio, but wouldn't mind seeing the whole thing.

On the front page of iView.

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He's a pretty incredible speaker.

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Part of the Australian curriculum is teaching students to break down statistical data from a reputable, government-sponsored source (the ABS). The data covers a lot of different areas - tourism, entertainment, sports, health, etc. One of the teachers I know went to teach his students a stats lesson the other day only to discover that the ABS has discontinued all non-essential statistical collection due to funding cuts. Someone's going to have to rewrite that bit of the curriculum :kiddo:

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I'm ENTJ, which apparently means nothing at all because it's a dumb test for idiots and has no correlation to anything useful

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I do hear that whatever category Les Affaires belongs to have smaller penises on average, though.

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The last Roast is pretty great.

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-08/woman-injured-man-shot-dead-in-police-siege-in-perth/5876860

Drove past this earlier today and my friend was like "wow, I wonder why there are so many cops around?", to whit I replied "dunno, probably shooting some innocents".

Turns out that's exactly what they were doing :kiddo:

quote:

Woman seriously injured, man shot dead in police siege in Perth

A knife-wielding man has been shot dead and a woman is critically injured after a police siege in the Perth suburb of Carlisle this morning.

An eyewitness told the ABC a man entered The Lunch Club delicatessen on the corner of Oats and Harris streets this morning, grabbed a knife from behind the counter and took the manager hostage.

"While I was in there this chap came from the front, bolted into the shop, grabbed knives then grabbed the boss and took her outside ... and threatened her," witness Donald McCaw said.

"Then he took her outside and they were trying to quieten him down, trying to stop him doing anything, any harm."

Mr McCaw said the man threatened to cut his own throat before then "starting on" the woman.

"He said 'I'll cut her throat', and everyone was around and they tried to talk him out of it, but he wouldn't," he said.

Mr McCaw said police then "virtually had to shoot him", firing six to eight shots.

"They were lucky to get shots in I think," he said.

He said he believed the man died at the scene.

Connor Bennett also witnessed the drama unfold.

"The guy was trying to... trying to stab the girl," he said.

"Tried to stab her once, and tried to stab her twice, and the police fired shots.

"She fell on the ground, because she got shot as well. She was moving, she was screaming in pain."

He said police initially fired three shots, then another four.

A woman has been rushed to Royal Perth Hospital by ambulance with life-threatening injuries, a St John Ambulance spokesman confirmed.

A hospital spokeswoman said she was in a "serious but stable" condition this morning.

Police and forensic officers have cordoned off a street as they investigate near The Lunch Club delicatessen.

Friends and family were at the scene, visibly distressed.

Police Commissioner Karl O'Callaghan confirmed it would be alleged the man was holding the woman at knifepoint with the weapon at her throat when a police officer arrived at the scene this morning.

The officer called for urgent back-up and several vehicles responded.

"Attempts to negotiate with the 38-year-old man failed and it will be alleged a number of officers fired their weapons," Commissioner O'Callaghan said.

"The man received a number of gunshot wounds and was declared deceased at the scene."

Commissioner O'Callaghan could not say how many times the man was shot but he did confirm the 37-year-old woman was also shot and was being treated in hospital.

He said the woman was working in a nearby delicatessen when the man came in and threatened her with a knife and she did not know the man.

The Commissioner said officers who were involved in the shooting administered first aid to both victims.

"The officers there were under a lot of pressure, obviously it's a complex situation, they have to make a decision in rapid circumstance and it seems they were certainly concerned about the welfare and the life of the woman concerned, and so they responded as they've been trained to do," he said.

"But we have to remember also the victim who was being held at knifepoint and her family, and also the person who is now dead and his particular family."

Commissioner O'Callaghan said police had to make a "very difficult decision".

He also called on any witnesses to come forward.

Guessing the first three hit her and the other 4 were for him. Pretty nice Russian-style hostage extraction there, WAPOL.

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Matthew Beet posted:

People watch qanda still?

I watch it through your bedroom window.

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Milky Moor posted:

I'm confused.



????????????

The ever-sluggish rollback of Howard's middle-class welfare.

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Last wedding I was at, the celebrant just kinda coughed and mumbled under her breath for a few seconds.

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CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

Re halalchat: my favourite yoghurt brand has been halal certified for ages. Shockingly, all it functionally means is that they don't have alcohol or pig bits in there and have someone checking that they don't put it in. When I'm eating out I like it when the food is labelled as halal because it means 1) there are likely to be fewer racist dickweeds involved in food preparation and 2) places with halal certification tend to take it seriously when you ask about animal products or gluten in their food. I've never had a halal-certified place bring me out a pumpkin soup with a big slab of bacon on top or a salad with shredded chicken bits and croutons and try to pass it of as "just garnish" (and then try picking it out of my food with their hands and think that makes it all right).

Anytime we have BBQs at work, everyone always heads instantly for the Halal sausages because the normal ones are loving awful and filled with sawdust or some poo poo, while the Halal ones have actually had some meat put in them and are tasty as heck.

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Last time they did this for child pornography somebody added an IP range to the blacklist and wiped out a few hosting companies, so I can only assume ACMA will continue being as competent as they ever were.

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news.com.au are running a whole bunch of "wow, Abbott is an embarassment" and "renewables are so cool why won't Abbott fund them" articles, and I think we're finally in bizarro world

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cpaf posted:

Well I don't know if you've experienced abuse as a worker from corporate interests or unemployment or the inability to find reliable paid work in the past

I laughed so loving hard, nicely done.

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cpaf posted:

Speaking as a family carer for someone on the DSP I'm not really surprised or upset with the proposed plans for reassessment; the previous system was quite absurd compared to the very rigorous new system which has been around since I think 2010-ish. The whole portability issue is also a bit of a non-event since mostly people on the DSP simply cannot afford overseas holidays of any kind, although obviously I am speaking from my own personal experience of DSP recipients and generalising somewhat.

Overall though the legislation can't escape its origins as an attack on the disabled and the general LNP push towards the homogenisation and degradation of welfare. This from a government who went to the last election committed to the NDIS and who went into the 2010 election promising a massive mental health reform package. This from a social services minister who announces massive cuts to the unemployed, disabled, elderly and other vulnerable members of society days before major Christian holidays, a religion he purports to be a fervent believer and follower of.

The portability stuff seems like a bizarre change. Presumably it's in place to prevent people from getting on the DSP and then leaving for a cheaper country (and continuing to receive the DSP), but you already can't do that at 6 weeks limit. As you say, most people on the DSP can't afford overseas trips anyway. I have to wonder why they even bothered.

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You mean they repealed the repeal of FoFA? Or they sank the repeal of the repeal of FoFA?

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I like how the issues that Abbott's getting crushed on are entirely progressive, yet Bolt's advice is to move to the right. Onya, Bolt.

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I loving knew backburner was written by a goon.

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Mark Scott is worth watching in the senate estimates on parlview, if you have some time. It's in environment and communications (part 3) from 20/11/2014.

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After watching 4 hours of senate estimates today, Mark Scott spent 3 hours making GBS threads on the oz and Janet Albrechtson and one hour repeating the same answers to the same 4 questions.

Also brisgoonmeet photos woot

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Hey Anidav I leave Brisbane next Saturday and am only using 1 of 2 allowed baggage pieces, we can probably tape you up into some kind of suitcase if you want out.

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IslamoNazi posted:

Are you making GBS threads me? please tell me that I'm arguing with a troll post I have a loving cactus growing on my parents balcony that people can have a cutting from if they're really that desperate.

Yes, she's making GBS threads you. The actual thing had something to do with sex workers from memory, but I forget what it is.

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In case anyone wanted a charity to donate to: http://www.givenow.com.au/asrcchristmasappeal

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Bill Shorten was pretty great in QT today. Of course, he was followed by Pyne whining incessantly so that's not exactly a high bar to clear

e; Pyne responds to a suspension of standing orders motion by saying "you'll notice that I didn't interrupt on a point of order when Shorten was speaking of things outside the relevance of the motion" and then started talking about pink batts

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Why on earth did the prime minister lie? This is a prime minister who made his reputation more than any other figure in modern Australian politics when he tried to crucify Julia Gillard, he said he wouldn’t break his promises. But then what they did now is there is no prime minister who has ever broken so many promises. Look at this smirking fellow. He’s so happy with himself.

At this point, the QT camera cut to Abbott who had that typical dumb grin on his face at the time before he realised and schooled his face to blankness.

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I, Butthole posted:

I do wonder if Adelaide was going to retain some sort of local content creation until Pyne started going off in the media and did his little petition thing.

It was probably going to go anyway. Of all the changes, that one made the most sense to save money on - you don't have decentralised production studios, they're expensive with no gain (unless you're doing a lot of local stuff, which is also no longer happening).

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It really takes a fuckup on the level of Tony Abbott to see a public institution with an 84% approval rating and try to poo poo on it.

e; I know Jason Clare is right as gently caress, but god drat the things I would do to him :gay:

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I disagree. The drum would cost very little to operate (really just hosting and a comment moderator, and I'm not even sure if they do that anymore) since the authors aren't paid to produce content. Unless you mean the actual TV show, which is probably fair (but again - I don't think that guests are paid for that? Just the hosts, and they work for the ABC in other roles anyway).

Some of it is definitely politically targeted. Bush Telegraph is a good example of that, as are the closure of ABC locals - both designed to further smash the loving wedge between the Nats and the Libs (which won't work, since Truss is firmly at shoulder-depth inside Loughnane's rear end in a top hat at this point). The closure of the non-Sydney production houses I doubt was intentionally targeted at Pyne (though it did work out loving well for Scott regardless). Centralisation of production makes sense, financially.

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Ian Winthorpe III posted:

I also think it's a fair criticism that there should be more of a conservative presence on the ABC. Not shock jock populists but someone who can thoughtfully challenge the soft-progressive bourgeoisie line that the ABC usually (understandably) carries. It's probably always been the case but it feels increasingly like there are two completely different conversations (2GB/News Ltd/Coalition vs ABC/Fairfax/Social Media/Labor-Left/Greens) happening in Australia and never the twain shall meet. Certainly doesn't happen on Q and A sucks which sucks and Tony Jones is a terrible moderator who needs to be replaced. I nominate myself.

Maybe you could contact the IPA and tell them to shut the gently caress up about libertarianism for a while, and get some conservatives on the ABC instead of them? No shortage in any way of IPA dumpsacks over every part of the ABC (ironic, since if the ABC lost their opinion sections the IPA would be virtually voiceless aside from the Oz).

I don't think it's fair to put the ABC on a team in the right v left media debates. They do actually introduce perspectives from all sides of politics, and it's one of the only venues in which both sides appear at the same time (ie. Q&A, but they're obviously answering questions from the crowd rather than directly debating). External reviews of the ABC have consistently shown a slight right lean on balance. It's extremely easy to say "lol abc so left wing" but there's no actual basis in truth to that, unless you're taking your opinions directly from Janet "the very definition of if you meet an rear end in a top hat in the morning you met an rear end in a top hat, you meet assholes all day you're the rear end in a top hat" Albrechtson.

e; ^^ a good metric is that the ABC is efficient enough that in order to save $54m, they'd have to spend $72m.

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Ian Winthorpe III posted:

Which external review shows they lean right? And i'm not saying that the ABC is SO left wing merely that it disproportionately represents the urban progressive left views of many of it's employees.

You know that it's not just ABC employees that are primarily urban, progressive and left, right? Take a look at the essential polling numbers for individual policies instead of the TPP numbers and you'll realise that the vast majority of the Australian population support progressive policy (the only exception, off the top of my head, being asylum seeker policy).

Bias studies:

http://about.abc.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/EditorialAudit1January2014.pdf
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/gerald-stone-releases-audit-into-abcs-coverage-of-asylum-seekers-20140312-34lk8.html

Slight right lean: http://www.andrewleigh.org/pdf/MediaSlant.pdf and breakdown: http://www.theguardian.com/media/datablog/2014/feb/06/australian-broadcasting-corporation-australia

quote:

All but one media outlet
is within two standard errors of the centre position,
0.47. On this metric, the only media outlet
that is significantly slanted is ABC Channel 2
television news, which is significantly proCoalition
during the period in question. However,
even here the difference is relatively
small, with the estimate for ABC television
news being 0.51

It's probably worth mentioning as well that this is well before the newscorp papers went off the loving deep end (the return of Col Allen), so their numbers would've changed significantly.

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There's a massive case study to be done in voting against your own interest in Australia. Never before has the world seen party/policy polling numbers so loving backwards at the last election. >60% of Australians agree more with a mix of ALP/Greens policy than anything, but a big chunk still vote Liberal.

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Ian Winthorpe III posted:

Hmmm could have something to do with those issues being subsumed by internecine fighting and dysfunction.

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Two issues. Though I'll point out that if you read the questions asked, they're push-polling.

quote:

The survey, completed in late October, found a majority (53 per cent) of Australians want full face coverings banned from public spaces and 50.2 per cent want Islamic sharia law banned all together.

Do... people think Sharia Law is implemented currently?

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