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beanieson posted:it's always herpes I also took the NTN Frontline Ergometrics test for fun (so much fun) and sent those results to a bunch of departments in the west/southwest/middle America, that has worked out pretty well. Got my foot in the door in a few states I hadn't looked at. So yeah, haven't decided.
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DrakeriderCa posted:Yeah I could have told you that was going to be the answer based on this: Edit to add a question related to my last post: Have any of you guys taken those Frontline tests with the video "what would you do" scenarios? They kept stressing that we should disregard departmental policies and answer the questions like we have never had any law enforcement experience. A bunch of seemingly intelligent cops in my testing group failed. Got the impression that the test valued people being slightly naive/derpy over being accurate but I'm not sure what the reasoning for that is. Input please? Pilot to Gunner fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Hezzy posted:You guys should try PAVA. It's literally chili that goes into your eyes. I've heard rumours at work we are set to get pava to replace cs. Supposedly it isn't effective against multiple assailants. Is that true?
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Pilot to Gunner posted:No, you don't understand. Her boyfriend was deployed overseas and the military tests them for STDs when they get back to the US so he can't have herpes. Fact. Never heard of this before so I doubt I can answer your question, but I'm curious, what were the scenarios like? What answers were they looking for?
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beanieson posted:Never heard of this before so I doubt I can answer your question, but I'm curious, what were the scenarios like? What answers were they looking for? Their website describes it as "Situational Judgment and Human Relations Video Test, a multiple-choice test that portrays situations commonly faced in law enforcement. Candidates are required to analyze situations and make quick judgments about how to respond" which is about right. Short video clip plays, it freezes at the decision making point, you have a few seconds to answer, next video starts. Not supposed to repeat any of the exact scenarios but they fell into some general categories like: adhering to or deviating from protocol, interacting with the public, discretion in warning vs arresting, when to use force, your attitude in your approach (stern or friendly), following chain of command, dealing with dick coworkers. Reminded me of a police version of CYOA books. The choices are kind of vague. Like one might be ethically right but against departmental policy, or something a friendly/lenient cop would do vs what a stern stickler would do, etc. They don't say which questions you scored high or low on, you just get your overall percent back if you pass... I still have no idea what they were looking for or why so many cops failed. Pilot to Gunner fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Pilot to Gunner posted:Their website describes it as "Situational Judgment and Human Relations Video Test, a multiple-choice test that portrays situations commonly faced in law enforcement. Candidates are required to analyze situations and make quick judgments about how to respond" which is about right. Short video clip plays, it freezes at the decision making point, you have a few seconds to answer, next video starts. Not supposed to repeat any of the exact scenarios but they fell into some general categories like: adhering to or deviating from protocol, interacting with the public, discretion in warning vs arresting, when to use force, your attitude in your approach (stern or friendly), following chain of command, dealing with dick coworkers. Reminded me of a police version of CYOA books. I took a written test like this with a non cop buddy of mine. He passed and I (with 7 years experience ) failed. I still have no idea what they were looking for and it bothered me for awhile, because I felt like I answered honestly and what the best choice would be given the circumstances. The way I answered is still how I would handle those situations if they arose now at my current PD.
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OC spray is easily the most awful experience I've ever been through pain wise. It was like the devil was making GBS threads the sun on my eyeballs. I thought it was all gone until the next morning when we were doing PT and the sweat from my forehead dripped into my eyes and the OC left in my pores reactivated. Punching someone in the face and knocking them the gently caress out is probably a more humane use force than using spray. On another note,I am currently working a stabbing and the amount of blood in the human body never ceases to amaze me.
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:I took a written test like this with a non cop buddy of mine. He passed and I (with 7 years experience ) failed. I still have no idea what they were looking for and it bothered me for awhile, because I felt like I answered honestly and what the best choice would be given the circumstances. The way I answered is still how I would handle those situations if they arose now at my current PD. Only thing I could think of that cops with more experience would answer differently on were regarding how they would react to a superior officer implementing a new policy that they disagreed with or thought would be detrimental to the rest of their duties. People who have been on the job a while would be more comfortable voicing their dissent, maybe go talk to the sergeant about it, grumble with coworkers, make some suggestions. Newbs are more likely to be silent, obedient little worms who do what they're told, right? (I personally erred on the side of gross obsequiousness but for all I know those are the exact ones I got wrong). And there weren't enough of those type of questions to explain the pass/fail difference for cops. The "would you have a friendly or stern expression in this situation" stuff really threw me because what if you have natural resting bitchface? All your poo poo looks stern.
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Pilot to Gunner posted:Only thing I could think of that cops with more experience would answer differently on were regarding how they would react to a superior officer implementing a new policy that they disagreed with or thought would be detrimental to the rest of their duties. People who have been on the job a while would be more comfortable voicing their dissent, maybe go talk to the sergeant about it, grumble with coworkers, make some suggestions. Newbs are more likely to be silent, obedient little worms who do what they're told, right? (I personally erred on the side of gross obsequiousness but for all I know those are the exact ones I got wrong). And there weren't enough of those type of questions to explain the pass/fail difference for cops. Cops hate two things: change, and the way things are.
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GunForumMeme posted:Cops hate two things: change, and the way things are. And blacks, mexicans, asians...
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zombie303 posted:And blacks, mexicans, asians... Who do you thinks responsible for all this change and the way things are smart guy?
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I don't think cops hate asians, when was the last time you say a cop give some stick time to an asian guy? On the subject of that test, I took it both pre cop and post cop and passed it every time.
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Pilot to Gunner posted:Their website describes it as "Situational Judgment and Human Relations Video Test, a multiple-choice test that portrays situations commonly faced in law enforcement. Candidates are required to analyze situations and make quick judgments about how to respond" which is about right. Short video clip plays, it freezes at the decision making point, you have a few seconds to answer, next video starts. Not supposed to repeat any of the exact scenarios but they fell into some general categories like: adhering to or deviating from protocol, interacting with the public, discretion in warning vs arresting, when to use force, your attitude in your approach (stern or friendly), following chain of command, dealing with dick coworkers. Reminded me of a police version of CYOA books. I'm pretty sure I did something like this, and the way I got through it was to always "ask a supervisor" if it was an option, if not an option, then just do what the stickler would do. I think a lot of people think the answers they're looking for are a kinder, gentler police force, but that didn't get them very high scores. We could be talking about two totally different things, though.
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the best answer is do the least harm but still bust the baddies. Also its -6 loving degrees here right now. This is not november weather gently caress this gay earth. Branis fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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Murphys Stache posted:
Yes, I have on a DUI. He licked his lips and said, "Mmm, that's good, gimme some more of that." Eventually it kicked in and he became compliant but it took a minute or so of scuffling. I think what did it was he got a small cut or abrasion on his face and some of the OC worked its way in there.
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Branis posted:the best answer is do the least harm but still bust the baddies. Wuss.
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WTF Canada? Dick move... http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/veteran-ticketed-escorting-body-of-private-steven-allen-1.2835893
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Grem posted:I'm pretty sure I did something like this, and the way I got through it was to always "ask a supervisor" if it was an option, if not an option, then just do what the stickler would do. I think a lot of people think the answers they're looking for are a kinder, gentler police force, but that didn't get them very high scores. We could be talking about two totally different things, though. Yeah, sounds like the same test and also probably why I passed. I think you're right about the kinder/gentler police force thing. It was set up to make it sound like being the Nice Guy was always the better way to go; build trust with the community and faith in the department, we don't want people to hate us blah blah. People probably get lulled into that and start checking off "give a friendly reminder, let it slide this time but tell them you don't want to come back, politely ask them to comply one more time" when the correct answer is obviously "immediately use lethal force". Always use lethal force, that's my one weird trick to passing. Cops hate me for it!
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chartley posted:I've heard rumours at work we are set to get pava to replace cs. Supposedly it isn't effective against multiple assailants. Is that true? Relies solely on the accuracy of the user. It's very precise which means you're not as likely to be affected unless you get some serious splashback. So far it's been about 90% effective in the situations I've seen it deployed
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Branis posted:the best answer is do the least harm but still bust the baddies. What's the best answer when your cop coworkers have agreed to go Christmas caroling off-duty (in uniform but wearing Santa hats) to raise money for a children's cancer ward and "boost the department's image", you're being pressured to join in but don't want to do it because singing is the loving worst and you've already made plans to meet some friends at a strip club that night? Asking for a friend.
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Uh, strip club is always the correct answer.
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beanieson posted:Uh, strip club is always the correct answer. That makers + spaghettios really got to you man
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I am become bachelor destroyer of booze
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Strip club in uniform wearing the Santa hat so you can sing to the peelers
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Either way you're spending money to benefit poor kids in single parent households.
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You're all wrong, the correct answer was "suck it up and go caroling with your coworkers". No wonder so many cops failed that frontline test, no sense of teamwork or community. But seriously, I'm not going caroling. GunForumMeme posted:Either way you're spending money to benefit poor kids in single parent households. We can agree that either way, I'm helping people. And that's what Christmas is all about.
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Any test that seriously asks that caroling question is a sham test because theres not a cop in the world that would choose caroling over strippers, even if offered double overtime.
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Branis posted:Any test that seriously asks that caroling question is a sham test because theres not a cop in the world that would choose caroling over strippers, even if offered double overtime. Eh, never been to a strip club and I don't intend to ever set foot into one.
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Oh, that wasn't actually on the test. But it should be. It's my real life question. I'm near Vegas so I'll probably be in this same conundrum again in the future (minus the Santa hats and singing). Next time I'll pick cancer kids over a strip club, I swear. Next time.
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GunForumMeme posted:Eh, never been to a strip club and I don't intend to ever set foot into one. I'd imagine you would on your 1st day if you joined the TABC
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Must be nice to stop and get a glass of wine on duty. ABC  .
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GunForumMeme posted:Eh, never been to a strip club and I don't intend to ever set foot into one. 
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Untagged posted:Must be nice to stop and get a glass of wine on duty. ABC /w tits
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Never had to pay a woman to get her to take her clothes off. 
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GunForumMeme posted:Never had to pay a woman to get her to take her clothes off. 
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I'd prefer to pay them, less hassle.
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GunForumMeme posted:Never had to pay a woman to get her to take her clothes off. Has never seen a woman naked irl
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GunForumMeme posted:Never had to pay a woman to get her to take her clothes off. You don't pay them to take their clothes off. You pay them to leave you alone afterwords.
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