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Pappyland posted:I just want to know what Socialists they were speaking to when they made their quiz. Socialist Party USA. They used this as their source quote for that: quote:We call for the right to comprehensive sex education in school that includes birth control methods, STD protection, and information about being GLBTQ.We demand full support for every woman's right to choose when, if, and how to have children, including the right to free abortion on demand at any stage of pregnancy, without interference or coercion. Clinics providing abortion services must have the full protection of the law. Which actively contradicts the position they attribute to them.  They also hilariously misrepresented SPUSA on US aid to Israel: quote:Socialist: No, we should not give aid to any foreign nations S Rogue0071 fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Quote of the day, "It’s perception. Republicans have to get beyond this perception that they don’t want African-Americans to vote." ~ Rand Paul
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "It’s perception. Republicans have to get beyond this perception that they don’t want African-Americans to vote." ~ Rand Paul
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Nov 3, 2014 05:53
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quote:"I'm not really opposed to [voter ID laws], but I am opposed to it as a campaign theme," Paul said. What? You want to support voter ID laws while not talking about it at all? Lycus fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Nov 3, 2014 |
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Nov 3, 2014 05:56
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Lycus posted:What? As he said, the Republicans need to get beyond the perception that they don't want African-Americans to vote.
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Nov 3, 2014 05:59
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Joementum posted:As he said, the Republicans need to get beyond the perception that they don't want African-Americans to vote. So they either need to stop doing it or somehow lobotomize every African-American?
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Nov 3, 2014 06:01
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Alkydere posted:So they either need to stop doing it or somehow lobotomize every African-American? No, they just need to find a way to quietly enact these voter ID laws. Rand knows that it's an issue that can sink his attempts at bipartisan appeal, so he won't campaign on it. He still wants it though!
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Nov 3, 2014 06:21
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Well, is the problem the actual stances Republicans take, or their messaging? We're finding out the answer this week, and we'll see how it affects their gameplan for 2016.
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Nov 3, 2014 06:22
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Joementum posted:As he said, the Republicans need to get beyond the perception that they don't want African-Americans to vote. Specifically, they need to perceive indifference, like Israeli perception of Gaza, towards African-American voting rights. Simply, they don't take it into consideration when they formulate outreach and targeted policies. Joementum, whats your take on the impact of charter and voucher proposals upon African-American perception of Republicans?
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Nov 3, 2014 06:26
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I really don't think there's a senator that's a bigger fuckwad than Rand Paul. It's the wordsmithing he does gives the 'illusion' that he's not a terrible person but no he really is. Well that and he's pretty good at being the stereotypical libertarian ideas guy.
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Nov 3, 2014 06:39
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Lycus posted:What?
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I forgot to file my Iowa voter registration before moving to Asia so no voting for me, sorry guys  I'll fly back and caucus in 2016 to make up for it
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DemeaninDemon posted:I really don't think there's a senator that's a bigger fuckwad than Rand Paul. It's the wordsmithing he does gives the 'illusion' that he's not a terrible person but no he really is. Well that and he's pretty good at being the stereotypical libertarian ideas guy. I'm hoping his political career flames out real quick once kentucky voters notice that he doesn't even do a good job of funneling pork to us, the way McConnell does. Ultimately, constituencies expect their Senators to do things for them, not to make a big ideological point of doing the exact opposite while using the position as a prestigious platform from which to eyeball the Presidency.
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Rogue0071 posted:Socialist Party USA. They used this as their source quote for that:  As if the Socialist Party USA (or any socialist party that wasn't just a guise for populist/conservatism) would ever only support abstinence programs.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:
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ComradeCosmobot posted:
I knew that SPUSA didn't support abstinence education, I just found it funny just how openly contradictory their claim was to the directly cited source.
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Gail Wynand posted:I forgot to file my Iowa voter registration before moving to Asia so no voting for me, sorry guys democratvotingpatterns.txt
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I wouldn't worry too much about it gerrymandering has rendered your vote essentially worthless. Seriously, don't be a typical Dem, vote.
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Thanks to the fella who posted the vote411 site- it gave me a shortcut to my bi-yearly pasttime of looking up all the crazy independent candidates. Can I post crazy here? I'm going to post crazy here. From the 441 site's questions, on the Florida gubernatorial race- "So far Florida has refused to accept $51 billion in federal funds that would extend affordable health care to working class citizens. Would you support the acceptance of these funds?" Charles Frederick Tolbert posted:Closing IRS and passing of HR25, the fair tax law, all individuals whether illegal, tourist, or those who are paid in cash, will pay federal taxes. read article http://www.cfabamerica.com/h-r-25-fair-tax-act-of-2011 A 1% sales tax should go to Medicaid Federal funds received will be depleted the cost increase within by 2020  "Are you in favor of medicaid expansion?" "Close the IRS!"Okay, pretty standard tea party stuff. There's not a lot of info on the 411 site though- let's pull up his personal site! Oh look, an article on immigration reform- A few choice bits from "Mexican Pres. Nieta Wants “Counterfeit” Hispanic/Latino Nation in America" posted:http://www.cfabamerica.com/write-in...ion-in-america1 What? Same Article posted:Why should America listen to Nieta or any other Mexican/Hispanic/Latino leader? All inventions that make the world go around were invented in America in the late 1800s and early 1900s by white/black/Europeans Americans! Nieta needs to Google Black inventors of America and see that the black inventors were the catalysts in telecommunications, electronics and industrialism. White inventors like Edison,Graham Bell, car manufacturers, Westinghouse, Nabisco and the train companies bought the patents of black inventors to move America forward! Same Article posted:Mexican, Hispanic and Latinos never invented anything! Now they want to come and take over what we Americans achieved by waltzing their people across the borders with babies in their bellies. Same Article posted:Now despot leaders like Nieta think they are going to turn America into some slovenly nation like Mexico and have Americans speaking Spanish which is an extremely inefficient language. A sentence in English with 25 words will take about 35 to 40 words in Spanish with about 70 syllables.   Okay then. That was really a bit more than I bargained for but I guess it was my fault for clicking on an article about immigration. Let's try something a little milder. What's this about a protest at Rick Scott's office? The Haunting of Governor Rick Scott’s Ft. Lauderdale Campaign Office! posted:In a bizarre move to shake up and wake up the sleeping Florida governor’s race; and to pay Rick Scott back for his veto of the fair alimony bill passed by his own party, lieutenant governor write-in candidate, Christine Timmon showed up at Scott’s Ft. Lauderdale campaign office in full haunting gear and caused a big eerie ruckus!! Timmon cast a pall over Scott’s office with make-shift coffins and two huge effigies that frightened on-lookers and those going in to make phone calls. It was truly a haunting! Scott did not get away on August 16, 2014. Okay. Odd, but I guess that's kinda funny- Same Article posted:Timmon held a memorial for the wives and children who have been beaten, maimed and murdered in divorce/alimony fights. Husbands have been badly abused by divorce attorneys in these fights; and many of them snap and beat, maim and kill their spouses because they believe they are unjustly having all their life’s work taking from them by an unfair process in divorce courts. The Divorce attorneys are using breaking up marriages to line their pockets. Same Article posted:It is no secret that unfair alimony causes violence and murder in families; and no-fault divorce breaks up families by letting the wife receive a large portion of an-ex-husband’s earnings, often for life; along with child support. A wife has no incentive to keep her family together with the lucrative alimony payments from her husband. Same Article posted:All a wife has to do is state “irreconcilable” differences. Even if the husband has done nothing, he will be required to pay if the marriage has been sexually consummated; if not, the marriage can be annulled with no alimony costs. Same Article posted:ANOTHER THING TO NOTE IS, MANY BELIEVE THE PAST THIRTY YEARS OF NO-FAULT DIVORCE THAT HAS BROKEN UP MARRIAGES AND BROUGHT ABOUT HIGH ALIMONY PAYMENTS MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE HIGH AMOUNT OF HOMOSEXUALITY AMONGST MEN. TIMMON INTERVIEWED TWO GAY MEN….BOTH SAID MARRYING A WOMAN WOULD MAKE THEM “CHATEL”, AND WARDS OF THE COURT WHO COULD LOSE EVERYTHING! There is no smilie for this, sweet baby Jesus. He has a whole site full of crazy: http://www.cfabamerica.com/
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So for my county clerk I have a choice between a republican and a libertarian. I'm currently planning on writing in "the ghost of Karl Marx".
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poo poo I just early voted in the Florida election yesterday. Wish I'd known about him I would have wrote him in.
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I still feel icky having voted for Crist. I really only wanted to vote yes on medical marijuana which probably won't pass because it needs a super majority. gently caress this idiot state.
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DemeaninDemon posted:I really don't think there's a senator that's a bigger fuckwad than Rand Paul. It's the wordsmithing he does gives the 'illusion' that he's not a terrible person but no he really is. Well that and he's pretty good at being the stereotypical libertarian ideas guy. Let me introduce you to his senior senator, Mitch McConnell. At least Paul is right for the wrong reasons every now and then.
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Chokes McGee posted:Let me introduce you to his senior senator, Mitch McConnell. Throw enough poo poo at the fan and some of it's bound to stick instead of splattering about.
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So elections are tomorrow. By the looks of things it looks likely that the Greedy Oligarch Party will be taking the senate as well. What sort of things will they try to pass, and how many of their reactionary efforts will actually succeed? And how can we stop them? (God I wish Floyd Olson was elected in 1932 instead sometimes)
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Seriously, don't be a typical Dem, vote.
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Grouchio posted:So elections are tomorrow. By the looks of things it looks likely that the Greedy Oligarch Party will be taking the senate as well. What sort of things will they try to pass, and how many of their reactionary efforts will actually succeed? And how can we stop them? ACA Repeal. Nothing will become law. What I hope for is for the Democrats to use the same obstructionist tactics that the GOP has used over the past six years and to hear the GOP whine and complain about that without a shred of irony.
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Grouchio posted:What sort of things will they try to pass The most likely things to make it to Obama's desk would be important, must-pass bills with insane poison-pill riders attached. That's if the lunatics do not take enough seats to seize control of the asylum entirely. If they do, all bets are off. quote:how many of their reactionary efforts will actually succeed? Probably none. Obama still has veto power and he's not going to sign the Fund Our Troops And Also Close Borders Act of 2014. The government will do even less than it has in the past 6 years and the various ongoing crises will continue to worsen because no one will allow a bill responding to them without piggybacking something unacceptable onto it. quote:And how can we stop them? Vote tomorrow and also in 2016 and all local elections as they come up.
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I was following through to the source on the answers to the question about requiring immigrants to learn English and found this gem.The Democratic National Platform posted:Democrats know there is broad consensus to repair that system and strengthen our economy, and that the country urgently needs comprehensive immigration reform that brings undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and requires them to get right with the law, learn English, and pay taxes in order to get on a path to earn citizenship. I know party platforms are pretty meaningless, but geez Dems.
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I'm excited to vote, I pretend like it justifies my nerdy interest in politics and I get to actually affect my country.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Seriously, don't be a typical Dem, vote. Grouchio posted:So elections are tomorrow. Actually, the elections are in 736 days.
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Would 2018 be too optimistic to possibly break the gridlock and finally allow some progressive laws to sweep through?
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Lansdowne posted:I was following through to the source on the answers to the question about requiring immigrants to learn English and found this gem.
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Grouchio posted:Would 2018 be too optimistic to possibly break the gridlock and finally allow some progressive laws to sweep through? 2018 will be the midterm after Hillary's election as POTUS so actually a Republican "wave" will sweep the D's that rode her coattails into office out. Or the unfortunate senators who happen to be up that year.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Why would the Dems bring that up like that? What voters are they appealing to?  White people.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Why would the Dems bring that up like that? What voters are they appealing to? I mean, I'm an ESL teacher but even I think our government shouldn't focus on English ability in regards to immigrants. Our country doesn't have an official language for a reason. Are most government forms and documents available in a large number of languages? Like could I go register to vote and receive a form to fill out in Estonian?
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Ethiser posted:Are most government forms and documents available in a large number of languages? Like could I go register to vote and receive a form to fill out in Estonian?
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Lansdowne posted:I was following through to the source on the answers to the question about requiring immigrants to learn English and found this gem. I'm pretty hard let but I never really understood the opposition to helping immigrants learn to speak English. It can only help them in my eyes. What's the issue with setting up English classes to help them assimilate?
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BiggerBoat posted:I'm pretty hard let but I never really understood the opposition to helping immigrants learn to speak English. It can only help them in my eyes. What's the issue with setting up English classes to help them assimilate?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I'm now much happier about answering more than a few of the questions with nationalize the means of production. What a bummer, I could only find "nationalize the means of production" for the energy industry and not other appealing opportunities for nationalization like defense contractors and banks.
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