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In celebration of Noisevember, I bring you the Noise Thread, post your shittiest, most depraved, horrible sounds here. Noise I think a lot of people write off noise without really understanding what it is. There's textures and progression and depth in good noise. In some ways it's the complete opposite of electronic dance music: instead of being about a beat, noise is about a texture, a single composite sound that evolves over the runtime of the track. It's the ultimate minimalist musical form, existing independently of different scales or formal ideas about what music is. The modernist composers (Steve Reich, John Cage, Lou Harrison) all experimented with noise and its use in music, but noise entered "popular consciousness" with Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music, an album that by all accounts is awful but brought noise to rock musicians, so it holds an important place in music history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYtzNl48F60 Since then, other musicians have started experimenting with pure noise music, lots of it overlapping with post-rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIyTXSW2oWw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-FYPTPvqzM But by far the most common noise genre today is electronic noise, fronted by its undisputed and terrifyingly prolific king, Merzbow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguPH0XBxdw Oddly enough, Japan seems to be the biggest exporter of noise, and they're really good at it. Eventually noise bled into songs with more conventional structures as well, using noise as a part of the emotional progression of a track. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cc3Pvc3leI No Wave In the 1970s, an art scene was developing in New York in response and opposition to the new-wave sound brought about by bands like The Talking Heads. No Wave was simple, blunt and brutal; punk without the pretention of musicality, no-wave rejected any attempt to define it, and no-one in the scene cared if anyone cared, but most agreed on one thing: It's kind of hosed up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocrTr56uhyw Though if you have any familiarity with no-wave, it's almost certainly through Sonic Youth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAmWkWZiZ50 Cymbal Monkey fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Nov 11, 2014 |
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I think there's something deeply spiritual about noise. Take Diamond Sea by Sonic Youth. I know my mind can't make sense of the last 15 minutes of that song, but at a pre-verbal level I understand why it's happening, and it speaks to some part of me that nothing aside from narcotics can reach.
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Nov 11, 2014 22:48
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First noise album I got was Alec Empire Vs Merzbow Live at CBGB. The liner notes claim people were leaving mid set and lying on the pavement with ears bleeding. Whether this is hyperbole or not, it's a wonderful image. Repeated listens reveal mangled rhythms buried under the full spectrum screech and it's upon finding these rhythms and subdued patterns that not just this album but the majority of 'good' noise starts to make sense and become enjoyable. They may never be overt, many of them may be patterns that only you will ever notice, it's a very listener dependant experience, and that's it's appeal to me. I don't know if the noiseguide forums still exist but they were fascinating to me a few years ago, a lot of producers as well as fans.
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Nov 11, 2014 22:56
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Alec's band, Atari Teenage Riot (my guilty pleasure) decided to do this one night opening for Nine Inch Nails and pissed everyone off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMhT2657mw
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Nov 11, 2014 23:09
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Any room for Noise Rock? Big Black - Kerosene Einsturzende Neubauten - Kollaps Brainbombs - Who Can You Trust If not, how about Power Electronics? Once you get past the misogyny, racism, sexual sadism and other extreme content inherent to the lyrics, it gets pretty good. Or not, if you're one of those spoilsports that demands things like rhythm and melody. Whitehouse - Wriggle like a loving Eel Genocide Organ - God Sent Us And while we're on the subject of controversial subject matter, why not go MAXIMUM HITLER with some Martial Industrial? Arditi - Sons of God I dunno if I've contributed to this conversation so much as opened myself to some red text proudly declaring my nazi rapist credentials but gently caress it.
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Nov 28, 2014 16:08
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I just saw Swans live last Wednesday for the first time. It was as good as I expected. Here's someones' recording of them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbGK9ODooKo
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Nov 28, 2014 19:05
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No Wave isn't really a thing, is it? The original scene was about five bands, who made five decent songs all put together, and I can think of exactly one current band who anyone ever calls "no wavey" (Can Can Heads). It's just this really trivial label that probably came about because some music mags dug Lydia Lunch. Like Britpop or some poo poo.
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Nov 29, 2014 18:55
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Ras Het posted:No Wave isn't really a thing, is it? The original scene was about five bands, who made five decent songs all put together, and I can think of exactly one current band who anyone ever calls "no wavey" (Can Can Heads). It's just this really trivial label that probably came about because some music mags dug Lydia Lunch. Like Britpop or some poo poo. No Wave is kind of a point of interest that a lot of great poo poo grew out of. It in and of itself was a pretty small thing.
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Nov 29, 2014 19:10
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There were only like five good post-punk bands too. My go-to noise album is still Wolf Eyes' Burned Mind. Older Third Eye Foundation was also great for "rhythmic noise". Semtex and Ghost are still Matt Elliott's best albums, though his whole quiet-one-man-guitar albums are fine too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90rIyiuQ5B0
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Dec 2, 2014 14:46
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precision posted:There were only like five good post-punk bands too. I'm pretty sure that's not right.
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Dec 2, 2014 15:35
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I had the "there's no no-wave bands outside of the comp bands" argument like 10 years ago and I'm gonna have it today again. I call Arab on Radar and AIDS Wolf No Wave. And a bunch of other poo poo No Wave. I will continue to do it until I die, which will be never.
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Dec 2, 2014 17:02
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arab on radar is really good the worst noise act is hadals though by far
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Dec 3, 2014 18:19
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stay depressed posted:arab on radar is really good Yeah.
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Dec 3, 2014 18:45
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Agreed. Nobody listen to Hadals. If you search for them on Google, you'll get responses for "had ALS" and you'll wish you did have ALS and not Hadals.
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Dec 3, 2014 21:00
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listening to it loving GAVE me als
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Dec 3, 2014 21:19
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Listen, buddy, if there's anything we don't need around here it's more meals.
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Dec 3, 2014 21:35
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In other news, I recently discovered this weird little Austrian outfit combing harsh noise with ambient, post-rock and hardcore. I loving love it. 
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Dec 3, 2014 22:24
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Heh, me? Yeah I make music. I'm a noise artist. I own three digitech deathmetal pedals and run them through a reverb unit. Used to do everything on a laptop but dad said he wouldnt buy me another once he found out I destroyed the last two during a set by smashing them on the ground. Did you know that yeezy experimented with noise on n-words in paris? pure whitenoise with beats, I connected to it on a primal level and thhats how I knew I had to do it myself. Find out about my newest releases on one of /mu/'s noise general thread under the name lastwintersfall. Do you want to hear some of my work? give me $15 and i will mail you a tape (i bought a pack of twenty for 10 bucks at cvs) when i get around to it in 6 months. You want that with or w/out cum? jk its coming in crusty no matter what if i actually mail you anything. btw come check out my live set tonight at the community rec. center after the senior dance class lets out.
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Dec 7, 2014 01:42
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My sound is a cross between power ambient and pigfuck vaporwave
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Dec 7, 2014 01:43
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Favorite noise artist? Flatliner from the Death Grips.
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Dec 7, 2014 01:43
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I stole my dad's cordless drill so now I'm doing Power Electronics
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Dec 7, 2014 21:43
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Ras Het posted:No Wave isn't really a thing, is it? The original scene was about five bands, who made five decent songs all put together, and I can think of exactly one current band who anyone ever calls "no wavey" (Can Can Heads). It's just this really trivial label that probably came about because some music mags dug Lydia Lunch. Like Britpop or some poo poo. Wrong. No Wave was definitely a thing and it was insanely influential for how many bands (and songs) were involved in it.
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Dec 11, 2014 00:06
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juniperjones posted:Wrong. No Wave was definitely a thing and it was insanely influential for how many bands (and songs) were involved in it. Insanely influential?
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Dec 11, 2014 00:13
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vampire weekend is insanely influenced by james chance i heard they had lunch with him and he was like 'ya fellas, you got it going on.'
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Dec 11, 2014 00:48
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wilco's sky blue sky was dedicated to lydia lunch. i have the liner notes right here
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Dec 11, 2014 00:50
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Op, I think you're really overstating the relevancy of post-rock...
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Dec 11, 2014 09:44
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overstating the importance of records listened to by like seven people with unwashed hair ITT. Swans and Sonic Youth are cool though.
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Dec 12, 2014 21:43
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Royal Trux's Twin Infinitives is like the Trout Mask Replica of noise rock, I highly recommend it.
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Dec 12, 2014 22:32
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Genetic Toaster posted:people with unwashed hair ITT.
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Dec 13, 2014 00:13
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You guys are terrible people.
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Dec 13, 2014 21:49
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Genetic Toaster posted:overstating the importance of records listened to by like seven people with unwashed hair ITT. yeah mono and 65daysofstatic have no business being in a noise thread
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Dec 13, 2014 23:26
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gently caress posting. gently caress content. discussion for noone. recommendations to noone. noise is over
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Dec 14, 2014 02:34
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-6yTHRsXOA god bless
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Stravinsky posted:My sound is a cross between power ambient and pigfuck vaporwave You rang? ASK: me about anything worth talking about in Chicago scum bag noise and I'll scream directly into your face
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slowdave posted:yeah mono and 65daysofstatic have no business being in a noise thread But its NMD so it doesn't matter 
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Dec 14, 2014 03:47
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To be fair the mono track is fairly feedbacky formless guitar noise that wouldn't be too out of place on a Jefre Cantu-Ledesma album or something like that. Keiji Haino does the best guitar noise though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYtwSfbNwAA
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Dec 14, 2014 04:02
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Remember when people listened to Clipping and thought it was good, and the total tripe it actually is? Good times Here's a vid of Sickness at NMF 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0PTOyO_zoM
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Dec 14, 2014 07:15
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Astrochicken posted:You guys are terrible people. Well yeah, you won't find anybody else in the noise scene.
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Remember when people listened to Hovercraft
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