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  The game is live! Please stick to your own thread if you are a player!German Thread American Thread Welcome to another Combat Mission : Goon vs Goon thread, I've blatantly stolen a bunch of content from the Grey Hunter CM:RT thread but he did a great job of explaining the basics of the game quickly so I hope he forgives me. This LP will hand the command of units at a single tank/platoon scale to the hands of you ugly lot, you will give your unit an order, and your commanders will put that order into the game. Both sides in this game will have goon commanders, and each side will have its own thread and videos, meaning this will be a head to head battle! This will most likely be a smaller affair then any of Grey's LP's, hopefully we can keep it tight and quick and eventually get a campaign going! What is Combat Mission: Battle for Normandy? CM:BN is a turn based game with realtime turns - you play as either America or Germany in 1944. (other games cover Russia, Market Garden and Italy, as well as a fictional 2012 war in Syria which is haunting the devs.) Turns are WEGO - both sides plots their orders, then sit back and watch as sixty seconds of chaos play out where you can’t change a thing. We will be doing turns in 2 minute segments so plan your orders accordingly. The game is super grognardy - it measures rate of fire, weapon penetration, armour slope and thickness, and troop quality and morale. It does have its faults however, the UI hasn’t changed much in ten years, orders can take a long time to plan and graphically its a little old compared to modern games - although 3.0 of CMBN has added hit decals so you can now see how many times your Shermans gun has bounced off the front of that Tiger. The Mission - American assault on the crossroads at Monthardrou.  2nd of August, 1944. U.S forces pushing through France are tasked with securing a vital road junction as German Forces start to withdraw towards Falaise. The American war machine is staggering and practically the entire northern coast of France fills with ships and equipment.  So, How will this work I've decided to simplify the system a bit from previous LP's, the commander on each side will be inputting commands for their team and play the turns out as a head to head match against the other Commander. Each player on their teams will submit orders for the units they control which will be followed as closely as possible. The Germans are outnumbered badly on this map but start with all of their units in a large deployment zone in which to optimally deploy defences. The Americans start with a small mix of troops and receive periodic reinforcements at the 5, 15, 30 and 50 minute marks of the 70 minute map. Because of this the German side will be made up of 5 or so experienced players while most of the goon horde will be regulated to the American side, if you are not confident in your abilities consider signing up as a reinforcement so you can watch how people operate for the first few turns of the game or go back and check out Grey Hunters Red Thunder thread that just finished up. The Americans should win this battle, however the Germans are veterans of a far more brutal war and will do everything they can do slow down and bleed their inexperienced enemy. Of course goon military code of honour will be in place so no peeking at the opposite sides threads or in-game troop lists , both sides have a vague idea as to the others capabilities but this will be revealed in your specific thread. Player Roles Players for both sides will now have a selection of roughly 4 roles with commanders assigning units to them: Axis/Allied Commander (1 of each) - These persons are the lifeblood of the LP, if everyone ends up dropping out it will end up being a 1v1 game between these two players with a large peanut gallery. The commander is responsible for inputting their teams orders into the game and playing and recording the turns, they must own a copy of CM:BN 3.0 and have experience with the game. Commanders will need to liaise with myself and their opposite number to ensure that both of them are running the same mods and updates so there are no deviations. This is a serious time commitment and you will need to upload a couple of minutes of video a day for the next month or so with the odd 48 or 72 hour delay for life issues. NOTE:Commanders will not be solely responsible for strategy and tactics in case this is scaring anyone off, you are largely just responsible for inputting orders and taking footage, this will be a team game with the whole team having a say on tactics and strategy, there were some shining examples of planning and execution in the last thread and I hope to see more! Infantry Platoon Leader - Infantry platoons make up the majority of forces on this map, they generally contain one HQ squad and 3 basic infantry squads which can be split further into teams as required. See specific faction threads for how squads are made up. Tank Squad Leader - Controls one or two tanks. (The American's have quite a few) Support/Heavy Weapons Platoon Leader - HQ and 2-3 Mortars and 2 Machine Guns depending on availability. Also included in this category are Recon and Pioneer platoons How will we give orders?  Example of clear, concise orders There will be various large maps floating around both threads that your commander will update from turn to turn (or they'll send me the saves and I'll update em, we'll figure it out) Orders should be given by marking the route/destination for your unit(s) on a copy of the map, making it as clear as possible what you want your guys to do. Because our commanders will be able to pay much more attention to their own units and deployment now I am thinking we might be able to get away with not using a separate order spreadsheet, just make sure orders stand out clearly from conversations and planning. Don't obsess on orders, most of them are done in MSpaint or at Paint.net so as long as they are legible you should be good to go! My orders got screwed up!  You mean you didn't want a whole company to charge forwards en-mass? Oh, sorry, those were the orders! Maybe, maybe not. Take it up with your commander - Combat Mission Pixeltuppen have their own AI, so may take different routes to a target than you would expect, or flat out refuse to charge that German MG position across 300 meters of open terrain. If your order has been misunderstood then you obviously didn't make it clear enough! What is the LOS on my guy? Ask your drat commander! I’m in, now what? I’ve created a spreadsheet ----------> Here (Please don’t vandalize this to much) There are columns for putting your name down for a specific role. To register/vote, please put your username in the correct column and once we get a few names down we'll sort out exactly who gets what and publish the faction threads. Remember this is a game, it is not about winning or losing but rather about having fun and watching little pixelmen falling over so we don't have to. The German objective is simply to do as much damage as possible before the American horde overruns them. If that's all then once again....Let the terrible decisions begin!  “Hold me, Hans.” “Its okay, it will all be over soon Fritz. The command to charge just came in,” Abongination fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Nov 7, 2014 |
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I'm in for a German Command! (but not PixelRommel  )I'd prefer Infantry / Armor. edit: also, quote:my adopted squad 
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Nov 4, 2014 07:58
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I'd be down to act as a German Company commander or a floating replacement for the Wehrmacht side. Alas, I won't have time to be Rommel. 
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Nov 4, 2014 08:05
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I'd love to command an American infantry platoon, I've been learning Red Thunder so I promise I won't be E: I'd feel okay taking on a company command, too, but if more experienced people would rather do it then I'll defer to them. Generation Internet fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 08:09
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I'd like to sign up for American armor platoon command, if there are company commander positions in this game.
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Nov 4, 2014 08:28
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Plagerism! you didn't even bother to change the terrible joke! I'll sue! Good luck with this, and while I can't play, I'll be following with interest. Be nice to see if your a better order imputter than I am! (Hopefully your no worse)
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Nov 4, 2014 09:45
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I'd like to be a platoon commander. Preferably a German one, although I don't know if there will be such a position on the German side. I'd prefer a heavy platoon, I want to use my HMG experience from the last thrad!  EDIT: One thing that could be improved from the last time is unit division. Some players have been given commands with not much to do (mortars, AT guns, two scouts that are supposed to sit and watch). Although it's fine to have smaller commands for people who don't have that much time, everyone should be able to do at least something. So a guy commanding AT guns could also be given... I don't know... scouts? It'll have to be improvised. markus_cz fucked around with this message at 15:45 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 09:50
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Abongination posted:I’m in, now what? I'd like to come in as a German, I've got a reasonable amount of experience playing CM games.
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Nov 4, 2014 10:03
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Submitted a request to view the sheet to request a spot to be given permission to ask to play the game.
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Nov 4, 2014 10:16
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How badly are the Germans outnumbered?
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Nov 4, 2014 10:40
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I'll just watch this time. Best of luck to everyone, may the slaughter commence, BLOOD SKULLS INTESTINES etc.
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Nov 4, 2014 12:06
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I submitted a request as well. Either American armor or infantry sounds interesting.
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Nov 4, 2014 13:19
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I'm in, heavy weapons would be good. America 
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Nov 4, 2014 15:22
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Im good for platoon command or armour american side
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Nov 4, 2014 15:38
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I'm interested in an armor or infantry position, preferably not just an MG or something since I just got done doing that. I just bought CMBN but have yet to play it, I've played a bit of CBRT. Realistically I don't have reliable availability for commanding much more than a single infantry platoon or armored unit, I typically have game time in the evenings after my kids go to bed but it's spotty enough that I can't commit to hours of d20 chat or whathaveyou. I'd be happy to swap to the German side if it turns out we need commanders, but the sum total of my experience is running a few quick battles and scenarios; that said, I do own the game and ideally will be playing it a fair amount in the next month or two, home life permitting.
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Nov 4, 2014 15:44
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I'll take a infantry platoon or armor spot for the Americans.
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Nov 4, 2014 15:50
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I can't open the spreadsheet. Or, well, I probably could but my browser doesn't allow it and I'm not nerd enough to understand how to make it. Nevertheless, if someone would sign me up for Germans, I'd love it. Not the highest tier of command but anything below that including observer/reserve will do!
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Nov 4, 2014 16:08
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Signing up as a Sherman driver. I'll show those Germans what the real death traps are! 
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Nov 4, 2014 16:18
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I got the spreadsheet open, but it's view only 
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Nov 4, 2014 16:18
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Spreadsheet seems to be locked to editing right now.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:18
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Sorry folks, google doc should be open now: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T7fWCTop0YouHAMz1RSgNFAopYYFRLfwlcZ3Yinb2vU/edit#gid=0 I'm hoping some of the people who were thinking of running their own games might step into our two high command spots, I will play around with setting up recording software at home so I can step into one of the roles if we don't get a ton of interest but would mainly like to assist with admin and groundwork on this thing, keeping it running smoothly. As for various levels of command, I thought this might be a more socialist game with everyone on a more equal footing bar the commander. Those with the knowledge feel free to share info and plan strategy and everyone feel free to ask questions, combat mission is a incredibly detailed game and it takes a long time to totally get the hang of it.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:23
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Signing up as a Yank in a tank (since I doubt "played in a GH goon game" is sufficient experience to join the Germans).
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Nov 4, 2014 16:28
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Signed up. What would a Support role be? Just mortars/HQ?
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Nov 4, 2014 16:28
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Decoy Badger posted:Signed up. What would a Support role be? Just mortars/HQ? HQ with 2-3 Mortars or 2 MMG's generally, Mortars might be a boring gig for someone so considering just grouping Mortars and MG's under "special weapons platoon" and giving it to one person, there are only two or three support roles, Scouts and Pioneer platoons also fall under this category. A lot of the American force is tanks! Abongination fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 16:31
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Soup Inspector posted:Signing up as a Yank in a tank (since I doubt "played in a GH goon game" is sufficient experience to join the Germans).  e: repeating my request for someone to sign me up in the spreadsheet despite it apparently being open. Valiantman fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 16:39
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Ah hell, I signed up as well. I did gently caress around with a CM game ages ago, but never in very much depth, so I used the lightest shade of green available for that field
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Nov 4, 2014 16:50
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GERMANY MOTHERFUCKER! e: Will someone put me down as either a green German commander or plat leader? GoogleDocs doesn't work with my phone. I don't mind inputting orders or giving LoS checks or etc. which is why I'm willing to input poo poo. That said, coming up with Bacarruda quality plans is NOT my forte, so if the position involves actual top-level leadership I might take a platoon instead. Dark_Swordmaster fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 16:51
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Valiantman posted:
I put you on there as a German infantry commander.
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Nov 4, 2014 16:53
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And we already have a surplus of Germans. Guess someone gets to decide who sticks around, and unless someone decides the Germans don't have enough experienced people I'll stick with the US. So far I haven't actually launched CMBN, I'm guessing the American infantry are more comparable to Germans in their flexibility and mobile firepower (as compared to the Russian infantry I AM familiar with)? I recall they have lots of mortars, and probably the one thing I haven't effectively been using when I play are on-map indirect fire weapons, so if that's the case I'll need to work on that aspect of play unless I draw a tank.
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Nov 4, 2014 17:01
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Generation Internet posted:I put you on there as a German infantry commander. Thanks a lot.
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Nov 4, 2014 17:03
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I've played some Combat Mission: Normandy. I'd like to take an infantry command, preferably US, if not German is ok too.
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Nov 4, 2014 17:12
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Just gonna repost this new addition to the OP NOTE:Commanders will not be solely responsible for strategy and tactics in case this is scaring anyone off, you are largely just responsible for inputting orders and taking footage, this will be a team game with the whole team having a say on tactics and strategy, there were some shining examples of planning and execution in the last thread and I hope to see more! Also, in an effort to keep things level and on track for both teams we need wacky and descriptive location names marked on the map as reference points! If someone far more original then myself could mark a few that'd be appreciated! Here's our map and the same with contour lines added (thanks to Jaguars!): The main objective is of course the town and the crossroads dead centre of the map. Americans start on that sliver of road in the south-west and Germans deploy over the rest.   Also some views to illustrate just what a messed up piece of geography this map really is! North, South, East, West     All this stuff will be reposted in the faction threads, just wanted to give you guys some ideas on layout. Abongination fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 17:18
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Yay. I can definitely input poo poo and record/edit and give LoS checks and poo poo. I'm just bad at high command / planning.
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Nov 4, 2014 17:24
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We can probably have one more on the German side, remember these roles aren't set in stone as it will be easier to dole out units once I can post the full lists in the faction threads, don't want to give to much info away in the open thread.Dark_Swordmaster posted:Yay. I can definitely input poo poo and record/edit and give LoS checks and poo poo. I'm just bad at high command / planning. Great to hear!! I'm sure you can find a willing XO to be on your team to help with such things, feel free to put your hat in for command. Abongination fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Nov 4, 2014 |
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Nov 4, 2014 17:29
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:Yay. I can definitely input poo poo and record/edit and give LoS checks and poo poo. I'm just bad at high command / planning. Similarly, I'd feel okay doing high command/planning stuff, but I don't actually have CM:BN and can't record. I'm sure there are a few other people in the same position so it'll work out.
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Nov 4, 2014 17:30
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A match made in heaven.
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Nov 4, 2014 17:53
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TehKeen posted:A match made in heaven. Except he's on the American team haha! The Germans have experience on their side so between them I'm sure they can whip something up.
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Nov 4, 2014 18:02
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Probably more balanced if the Germans got the slight player XP edge in this scenario (and ~historical~ too).
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Nov 4, 2014 18:04
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I'm willing to be the XO for either side. I know what I'm doing and I can make a list and a plan that will win, as my resume both times I've been overall commander in these things my team won, and I am taking full credit! Basically I just can't record stuff.
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Don't have CM:BN, I think I'll just watch this round. It's great to see that Grey started something magical here though!
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