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That's great and all that he killed Usama but his job was to shoot people. He could do worse than delivering beer. Post script - My time in the military was great. I drank a lot and had a blast living in Japan for a few years and the VA now pays my $16k a semester private college tuition.
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Agag posted:Yeah that's true, without those SEALs murdering brown children in Afghanistan there's no way society could function. There's no way they are a worthless evil in the world, collectively less valuable than a single immigrant fruit picker. If you're 19 and/or an idiot this probably makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately most adults realize the world is a much more complicated place. It's easy to distill things down to black and white like that, just remember you're only really doing it primarily to make yourself feel good.
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natetimm posted:If you're 19 and/or an idiot this probably makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately most adults realize the world is a much more complicated place. It's easy to distill things down to black and white like that, just remember you're only really doing it primarily to make yourself feel good. I'm 12 actually, so no swears plz. Explain to me how the "sacrifice" of those fine young sociopaths accomplished anything worthwhile.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 07:47 |
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Agag posted:I'm 12 actually, so no swears plz. well they killed brown "people"
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 07:50 |
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Bolow posted:well they killed brown "people" No, the guys with their pictures on the wall got murked by the browns. The bar is effectively a shrine to the falsehood of white supremacism.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 07:56 |
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Agag posted:I'm 12 actually, so no swears plz. Having an able and ready military has proven to be a necessity for any nation wanting to remain a nation throughout recorded history. You aren't the first or the last person who will see them in a totally negative light, but history tells a different tale. No matter if you disagree with the specific current mission or not, until the world reaches the next step of human development, a strong military remains the best form of insurance for survival. This isn't even the first time this century a bunch of anti-military isolationists have tried to put forth the narrative that intervening in other places in the world is bad and been proven catastrophically wrong. It's a question with no good answers because all of the options are bad. Interfere and risk bad outcomes? Don't interfere and risk bad outcomes? There's no guarantee that either of those philosophies will lead to anything good. You can only really try and aim for the less bad outcomes by acting proactively. I can't pretend to say that everywhere the US military has gone has been sunshine and rainbows afterwards but I also can't pretend like sticking our head in the sand and refusing to get involved has done us any favors either. Like I said, it's complicated and not a black/white issue of moral certainty.
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natetimm posted:Having an able and ready military has proven to be a necessity for any nation wanting to remain a nation throughout recorded history. You aren't the first or the last person who will see them in a totally negative light, but history tells a different tale. No matter if you disagree with the specific current mission or not, until the world reaches the next step of human development, a strong military remains the best form of insurance for survival. This isn't even the first time this century a bunch of anti-military isolationists have tried to put forth the narrative that intervening in other places in the world is bad and been proven catastrophically wrong. It's a question with no good answers because all of the options are bad. I didn't ask for a history 101 on the existence of armed forces throughout history. I asked why was accomplished by those SEALs dying in failed bid to defeat the Taliban or reconstitute Iraq. And you know that the answer is "nothing." Anyway even if we accept the premise that armed interventions are essential, I'm not sure why people are supposed to admire the kind of people who volunteer themselves as paid killers as opposed to taking up some other trade. As there are no moral certainties here, its entirely possible that all of those faces on the wall belonged to sick people who wanted to commit murder and get patted on the head for it, but were instead owned by the people they were sent to kill, and thus we should laugh at them. I mean anything is possible, right?
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natetimm posted:Having an able and ready military has proven to be a necessity for any nation wanting to remain a nation throughout recorded history. You aren't the first or the last person who will see them in a totally negative light, but history tells a different tale. No matter if you disagree with the specific current mission or not, until the world reaches the next step of human development, a strong military remains the best form of insurance for survival. This isn't even the first time this century a bunch of anti-military isolationists have tried to put forth the narrative that intervening in other places in the world is bad and been proven catastrophically wrong. It's a question with no good answers because all of the options are bad. It's easy to jackoff our young men and women who die senselessly while trying to murder poor middle easterners to protect oil profits and keep the military industrial complex humming so old rich white fuckers can continue being richer than god like that, just remember you're only really doing it primarily to make yourself feel good. e: like, honestly, can you imagine an America where everyone isn't fellating the military at every opportunity? if we didn't constantly call them heroes then we might feel bad about all of these young people who die for no reason and stop getting involved in senseless and perpetual wars, but then where would all that sweet government contract money go? infrastructure? healthcare? lol mr. mephistopheles fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Agag posted:I didn't ask for a history 101 on the existence of armed forces throughout history. I asked why was accomplished by those SEALs dying in failed bid to defeat the Taliban or reconstitute Iraq. And you know that the answer is "nothing." I think it's easy to look down at "paid killers" when you live in a country and reap the benefits the best "paid killers" in history provided.
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natetimm posted:I think it's easy to look down at "paid killers" when you live in a country and reap the benefits the best "paid killers" in history provided. please justify spending trillions of dollars to kill people literally living in caves and explain how that makes you safer as an american citizen living on us soil
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mr. mephistopheles posted:It's easy to jackoff our young men and women who die senselessly while trying to murder poor middle easterners to protect oil profits and keep the military industrial complex humming so old rich white fuckers can continue being richer than god like that, just remember you're only really doing it primarily to make yourself feel good. I think until the rest of the free world pulls their heads out of their collective asses and realizes that they might need to fork out a bit more military-wise to even the carrying of the load we are stuck in our position as superpower and politicians will never be able to resist using that big shiny military rather than let it sit on the shelf.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:please justify spending trillions of dollars to kill people literally living in caves and explain how that makes you safer as an american citizen living on us soil I'm not going to justify every dumb expedition the US has ridden off on, but I feel comfortable saying that if the US military evaporated today, the entities that moved to fill that void would make not only the lives of US citizens, but also the lives of many of our allies demonstrably worse.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:please justify spending trillions of dollars to kill people literally living in caves and explain how that makes you safer as an american citizen living on us soil They don't live in caves man. Don't be racist
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mr. mephistopheles posted:please justify spending trillions of dollars to kill people literally living in caves and explain how that makes you safer as an american citizen living on us soil kinda racist dude
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Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:what part of he killed bin laden don't you understand, you loving idiot? He did it pretty well, I guess, but he hosed up, because now there are no more bin Ladens left to kill. His obsoleted his own skillset.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 08:47 |
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He should do porn
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natetimm posted:Having an able and ready military has proven to be a necessity for any nation wanting to remain a nation throughout recorded history. You aren't the first or the last person who will see them in a totally negative light, but history tells a different tale. No matter if you disagree with the specific current mission or not, until the world reaches the next step of human development, a strong military remains the best form of insurance for survival. This isn't even the first time this century a bunch of anti-military isolationists have tried to put forth the narrative that intervening in other places in the world is bad and been proven catastrophically wrong. It's a question with no good answers because all of the options are bad. Nuclear weapons are the best form of insurance for survival. Also every time we intervene we end up creating a massive clusterfuck that backfires on us because we don't give a poo poo about intervening to make anything better we just do it to further our imperialist agenda hth
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Osama Bin Laden cheated the gallows and died five years before US security forces officially announced he was killed, says a former CIA agent, currently living in Turkey. “I knew Bin Laden’s Chechen guards very well,” Berkan Yashar, himself an ethnic Chechen, told the Russian TV station, Channel One. “Samy, Ayub and Mahmud were with him right to the end. I remember well this date as there were three sixes in it – June 26, 2006. Those three men, as well as two Muslims from London and two from the US saw Bin Laden dead. He was seriously ill before his death. He faded away to skin and bone. The three Chechens washed his body before burying it.” Yashar also said that on the eve of May 2, when President Obama announced that Bin Laden had been killed, the Americans found only Bin Laden’s grave near the Afghan-Pakistani border and staged an operation. According to Yashar, US special forces started hunting Bin Laden’s Chechen guards after Bin Laden’s death was first announced at a conference in Washington in November 2008. The last of them, Samy, was taken by the American special forces a few days before Bin Laden was officially pronounced dead. Berkan Yashar believes Samy could have told them the exact place of burial. Answering why he had decided to speak to the Russian channel, Berkan Yashar said that after all the recent developments he feared for his life.
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red19fire posted:I know someone who took an early retirement buyout at 16 years in. One year's pay. He didn't really grasp that getting a $50k lump sum now is worth less than $200k over 4 years, and $25k/year after that. He signed the documents in Iraq so it was tax-free, then he smuggled power tools back so he could become a home contractor. This was in 2007, about a year and a half before the financial meltdown I refuse to believe anyone could be this loving stupid.
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Beef Turret posted:Osama Bin Laden cheated the gallows and died five years before US security forces officially announced he was killed, says a former CIA agent, currently living in Turkey. I don't think Obama's dumb enough to do that but then that's the first time I've ever thought a politician wasn't dumb enough to do something so I'm confused.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:13 |
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yeah osama was on dialysis way back in 2001 he died way before they said they killed him. They just dumped a body bag full of potatoes into the ocean.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:27 |
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Yes GBS, military service is just like welfare and social programs, except they actually have to wake up and go to work, and it's at least harder work in some aspects than what most of us do. Not all aspects, mind you, but my job is pretty physical, but I don't get told to wake up and do group PT ever, or get tested on my fitness.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:32 |
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greg sexyvibes posted:Yes GBS, military service is just like welfare and social programs, except they actually have to wake up and go to work, and it's at least harder work in some aspects than what most of us do. Not all aspects, mind you, but my job is pretty physical, but I don't get told to wake up and do group PT ever, or get tested on my fitness. The idea that working hard and exercising every day, being told what to do, where to live, when to poo poo, when to storm the al Qaeda safe house might have to have substantial compensation is foreign to them
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:35 |
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natetimm posted:
But we don't seem to want to accept the fact we're dealing with an expert in guerrilla posting, with a man who's the best, with hoo-rah, with jinogism, with his eagle tears. A man who's been trained to ignore facts, ignore arguments, to live off the rage, to post things that would make a billy goat puke. In gbs his job was to support our troops. To post! Period! Win by attrition. Well Natetimm was the best.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:57 |
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protecting economic interests is pretty important. then u make fun of them for being evil?? well someone's gotta do it..
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 09:57 |
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You think ISIS would let you post all day and watch Ai Yori Aoshi in your pyjama? Don't tell me they didn't bleed out into the desert soil for nothing.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 10:10 |
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I did the only thing I could because I am useless at anything else and I need cash and/or I am easily swayed by propaganda! But now I have stopped and ou all have to pay me money for doing nothing for the rest of my life now!!
Rapman the Cook fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Boo hoo, we need an army so we can kill some people who are angry t us because we keep sending our army off to kill people for lovely lovely reasons and they get angry at us for some reason?!!
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 10:23 |
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Gotta say though, those people who died in Iraq, not pointless deaths at all. Support our troops! Because for some reason these grown men cant support themselves, or make sane moral decisions.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 10:25 |
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This gbs 1.0 roleplay is much better than my thread gj guys
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 10:28 |
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Agag posted:I'm 12 actually, so no swears plz. Less Muslims
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 10:45 |
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so are we talking super troopers style shenanigans or what
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 10:48 |
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I know somebody who was in the navy for all the financial/status benefits and got booted/quit after 2 years for failing a drug test (weed), describing his COs as "haters", and instead of getting hosed in the rear end he claims to have actually received an honorable discharge. I was very skeptical when he started telling everyone that but at this point I don't even doubt his story. So that's really great the military blows billions of tax dollars to slaughter browns and acting as a substitute welfare program for dumbass retards and isn't even as hardcore and serious as it pretends to be.
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 11:12 |
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In Australia we just send 'em to the mines.
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numberoneposter fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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numberoneposter fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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I for one am appalled by the amount of racism and lack of critical thought going on in this thread... appalled and worried at what our forums is becoming...
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# ? Nov 6, 2014 11:40 |
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In before "I don't understand how they found my brother and beheaded him!!"
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dont have much to say regarding the OP but I can say I spent part of my childhood on camp pendleton and every marine i ever met as a child is someone i'd nowadays immediately recognize as either a retard or a dick and to this day going to do anything in oceanside (the town right outside the base) loving blows because you have to deal with crowds of belligerent 18-22 year olds who just got their first chance to get away from their rural families and "earn" a pay check. also oceanside is loving ghetto anyways. gently caress oceanside.
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