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I saw this movie and this weirdo dude who masturbates to violence against women is a CRAZY man. I have no idea what the gently caress happened other than like, *SPOILERS* (I don't know how to use spoiler tags and that poo poo isn't written down anywhere easily accessible) everyone died at the end and I think the old man was trying to like, make money or something? Jeez, crazy movie, and it also had like, 4 different rape scenes and a dude gets kicked in half and another one gets his penis hosed up by some brutal looking scissors and there's a gay demon snake man. Truly an OUT THERE movie.
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Buschmaki posted:I saw this movie and this weirdo dude who masturbates to violence against women is a CRAZY man. I have no idea what the gently caress happened other than like, *SPOILERS* (I don't know how to use spoiler tags and that poo poo isn't written down anywhere easily accessible) everyone died at the end and I think the old man was trying to like, make money or something? Jeez, crazy movie, and it also had like, 4 different rape scenes and a dude gets kicked in half and another one gets his penis hosed up by some brutal looking scissors and there's a gay demon snake man. Truly an OUT THERE movie. Miike just hosed your mind
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Nov 6, 2014 05:15
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Is that the one where the dude has slits in his cheek and when he smokes it comes out? if so that is a badass movie
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Nov 6, 2014 05:21
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This movie intro owns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM65MPPn4PA
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Nov 6, 2014 05:24
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Miike is a really good director and I wish he was more influential
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Nov 6, 2014 05:25
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Supposedly that's real sperm at the beginning
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Nov 6, 2014 05:26
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It was a pretty good movie, had lots of intense scenes but not as hosed up as Visitor Q (which I wouldn't say is really a great movie, just hosed up)
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Nov 6, 2014 05:27
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takashi miike is loving awesome
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Nov 6, 2014 05:30
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etalian posted:This movie intro owns: the ending to this movie is fuckin amazing
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Nov 6, 2014 05:30
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I love that movie, and the way it explores how sadomasochism relates to violent and/or exploitative film is pretty well done.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:32
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you know whats a really weird movie in a completely different tone? southland tales. i actually kind of like it. it's one of those "good" or at least interesting bad movies.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:37
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ichi the killer is alright i guess. tho its kinda like yeah duh ichi is gonna kill everyone and come out on top but i dont like him anyway so what does it matter
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Nov 6, 2014 05:40
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kakihara's outfits are awesome
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Nov 6, 2014 05:40
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SmokaDustbowl posted:kakihara's outfits are awesome
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Nov 6, 2014 05:41
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THis movie was really hosed but not in a cool way, uncomfortable at the end, no one finished, would not gently caress to again.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:42
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best japanese b-movie is versus 2000
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Nov 6, 2014 05:43
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Ichi the Killer is cool and good Takashi Miike is cool and good
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Nov 6, 2014 05:43
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Frostwerks posted:you know whats a really weird movie in a completely different tone? southland tales. i actually kind of like it. it's one of those "good" or at least interesting bad movies. I appreciate any film that tries to have that sort of Lynchian sense of bizarre disconnect, even if it sucks my anal glands.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:44
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to me it seems like just an extreme version of the anime theme of "even you, a pathetic, spineless, piece of poo poo manchild, can be the best, the coolest, and dominate women, etc"
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Nov 6, 2014 05:45
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to truely dominant a woman you must become a woman
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Nov 6, 2014 05:46
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a hole-y ghost posted:to me it seems like just an extreme version of the anime theme of "even you, a pathetic, spineless, piece of poo poo manchild, can be the best, the coolest, and dominate women, etc" you mean every action movie that doesn't have the protagonist start out at that level?
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Nov 6, 2014 05:46
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this movie about gangsters cutting eachother in half with swords has some troubling messages hidden under the surface 
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Nov 6, 2014 05:47
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a hole-y ghost posted:to me it seems like just an extreme version of the anime theme of "even you, a pathetic, spineless, piece of poo poo manchild, can be the best, the coolest, and dominate women, etc" It really doesn't seem like the movie present ichi as a dude to emulate, he ends up doing a sickass roundhouse into his pretend brother's throat in front of his son then gets the poo poo kicked out of him by the kid, not really a great role model to aspire to.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:48
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I don't think anyone actually got cut with a sword in this movie, which makes it a very reserved yakuza movie.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:49
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a hole-y ghost posted:to me it seems like just an extreme version of the anime theme of "even you, a pathetic, spineless, piece of poo poo manchild, can be the best, the coolest, and dominate women, etc" Nah, it's about how the ultimate sadist is someone who won't accept any pain, including mental (as in Ichi's case) so basically instead of being the cool suave psychopath you're a loving insane blubbering barely functional adult child who breaks down in extreme negative response at even the slightest pain, be it mental or physical. That's why Kakihara is absolutely fascinated and obsessed with him, he's a pure sadist, and Kakihari, being a massive sadomasochist, badly desires to find him so that Ichi can give him the fear and pain (the ultimate rush) that he wants.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:50
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The Phoenix Wright movie he did was pretty good.
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Nov 6, 2014 05:52
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JebanyPedal posted:Nah, it's about how the ultimate sadist is someone who won't accept any pain, including mental (as in Ichi's case) so basically instead of being the cool suave psychopath you're a loving insane blubbering barely functional adult child who breaks down in extreme negative response at even the slightest pain, be it mental or physical. ...Like the people who go around watching crazy, gory movies by psychos... 
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Nov 6, 2014 05:53
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yeah what i meant was more that I saw the movie as an examination of the "schlub who becomes powerful but actually stays a schlub" archetype but i guess jebanypedal's explanation makes more sense
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Nov 6, 2014 05:54
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I never watched the movie but I read the manga and I remember the ending barely making any sense. I just remembered that Ichi kicks Kakihara's dick off and Kakihara realizes his life is worthless and falls to his death or something. Philadelphia fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Nov 6, 2014 |
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Nov 6, 2014 05:54
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darealkooky posted:you mean every action movie that doesn't have the protagonist start out at that level? darealkooky posted:this movie about gangsters cutting eachother in half with swords has some troubling messages hidden under the surface uh oh looks like i really offended this guy lol id better Watch Out
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Nov 6, 2014 05:59
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When someone expresses anything negative about something I like on the internet the only recourse is to fight them.
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Nov 6, 2014 06:02
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Philadelphia posted:I never watched the movie but I read the manga and I remember the ending barely making any sense. The movie's interpretation of this is that at the ending, Ichi, being the pure sadist that he is, can't take what happened (his resultant pain at the belief that he's killed his "brother" , and Takeshi wailing on him), and breaks down crying, Kakihari realizes that the rush that he's wanted, the one thing he wanted to make his life meaningful, a painful, perfectly sadistic death, will be denied to him, so he skewers his ears to block out Ichi's crying and in despair commits suicide by falling and fantasizes about the perfect death that he wanted. The movie then shows him in hell, in an empty room, with no one there to give him the pain he so desires, no stimulation of any sort.
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Nov 6, 2014 06:03
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a hole-y ghost posted:yeah what i meant was more that I saw the movie as an examination of the "schlub who becomes powerful but actually stays a schlub" archetype but i guess jebanypedal's explanation makes more sense He doesn't become powerful though, he's just as good at loving people up at the beginning of the movie as he is at the end of the movie
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Nov 6, 2014 06:04
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Devils Affricate posted:He doesn't become powerful though, he's just as good at loving people up at the beginning of the movie as he is at the end of the movie
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Nov 6, 2014 06:05
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Buschmaki posted:When someone expresses anything negative about something I like on the internet the only recourse is to fight them. the only recourse is to cut their neck open with a kick while sobbing wildly
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Nov 6, 2014 06:05
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SmokaDustbowl posted:the only recourse is to cut their neck open with a kick while sobbing wildly
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Nov 6, 2014 06:06
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a hole-y ghost posted:yeah true... now that i think about it hes kind of a static character and kakihara is more the hero who undergoes development especially in his indirect and direct interactions with ichi Yeah, Kakihara is definitely the protagonist. Ichi is almost more a force of nature in the film than an actual human being.
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Nov 6, 2014 06:07
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JebanyPedal posted:Yeah, Kakihara is definitely the protagonist. Ichi is almost more a force of nature in the film than an actual human being.
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Nov 6, 2014 06:08
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a hole-y ghost posted:i think a lot of my misunderstanding was from thinking hed be the protagonist based on the title + only half paying attention to watching the movie bc i was cooking or something I haven't read it, but from the little I've seen/heard about, Ichi is more the protagonist and has a somewhat different development in the manga, they obviously kept the same title for the movie despite the change in focus because that's what you do with adaptations.
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JebanyPedal posted:I haven't read it, but from the little I've seen/heard about, Ichi is more the protagonist and has a somewhat different development in the manga, they obviously kept the same title for the movie despite the change in focus because that's what you do with adaptations.
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