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Sweet Tea posted:i actually found myself enjoying it but at the same time it takes itself really seriously which is loving stupid it actually doesn't did you miss the part where the villain dryly said "aww that is nice" at the hugging scene in the end
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mr.capps posted:it actually doesn't i did miss that part. that being said though they had a lot of opportunities to add some humorous elements but didn't, i think they went with the whole setting/narrative being absurd enough inherently that any comedic relief was self evident
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psyopmonkey posted:Hot Rod. hot rod is pretty great it is also stupid as gently caress, yes.
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Fandyien posted:i did miss that part. that being said though they had a lot of opportunities to add some humorous elements but didn't, i think they went with the whole setting/narrative being absurd enough inherently that any comedic relief was self evident there's tons of jokes in there, like with the dudes in masks and axes all stopping to celeberate new year and smiling in the middle of a bloody battle or the entire bit with the teacher.. and the eggs.
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hemale in pain posted:there's tons of jokes in there, like with the dudes in masks and axes all stopping to celeberate new year and smiling in the middle of a bloody battle or the entire bit with the teacher.. and the eggs. imo its hard to discern if those are jokes or just weird poo poo
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hmmm • if the premise is based on science that is clearly faulty without being innovative in its own right its dumb • in genres involving the paranormal the premise itself to the degree as would be known from a succinct description of the movie is immune from determining the movies status (if you go into a movie knowing theres part of it you think is dumb you cant be a bitch about it) • if any of the plot points hinge on a character being dumb outside of the context of his own hubris then its dumb • acts of deus ex machina which were not foreshadowed make the movie dumb
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Congo was dumb as gently caress but for some reason i still love that movie. it's my comfort flickPillow Clerk posted:The Mummy, staring Brendan Fraiser this too
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snowpiecer is actually a pretty smart movie btw like everyone got the whole classism subtext of it, but people missed how it was used to parallel like genre conventions and plotting in action movies. as soon as anarchy reigns the entire plot of the movie is literally derailed, with no foreshadowing to it. the movie isn't really trying to say anything about classism, but it is saying stuff about how all stories are power struggles.
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i thought snowpiercer was a nihilistic movie that equated the entropy of human existence w/the inevitability of the train's failure. in the end they are going to freeze to death, just like the earth
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Fandyien posted:imo its hard to discern if those are jokes or just weird poo poo its jokes, have you seen the director's other movies? The Host (the south korean movie not the YA thing) and Mother have a lot of stuff like that.
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Fandyien posted:i thought snowpiercer was a nihilistic movie that equated the entropy of human existence w/the inevitability of the train's failure. in the end they are going to freeze to death, just like the earth its a pretty big plot point that the earth was getting warmer again
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mr.capps posted:its jokes, have you seen the director's other movies? The Host (the south korean movie not the YA thing) and Mother have a lot of stuff like that. yeah i've seen host and it really owned which is part of why i watched snowpiercer and i'll grant that had a lot more jokes. i think my problem is i take poo poo in ostensibly post apocalyptic movies at face value whereas with The Host i was way more willing to sort of interpret things in it as satires on the US/SK relationship and general environmental policies mr.capps posted:its a pretty big plot point that the earth was getting warmer again yeah fair enough and while it's clear that you can survive outside for at least a little while, unlike those dudes whta got frozen 17 years ago, i still think the survivors will be boned what with the train having been mostly destroyed and stuff that being said this conversation has made me appreciate Snowpiercer more because most silly movies like it don't even seem to merit this sort of vague analysis
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Austin powers. Dr. evil is the thing that's great. The rest is bad.
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Sir John Feelgood posted:Austin powers. Dr. evil is the thing that's great. The rest is bad. i liked the second one but im willing to admit it probably sucked
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was it the third one with the fat character? cus i remember thinking the fat scotsman was funny when i was a child but i bet that holds up terribly now.
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does an intentionally dumb movie count tho???
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other bad movies i like: pacific rim and prometheus. like pacific rim is really a complete piece of poo poo but i like it and prometheus is a watered down pg-13 turd of an alien movie but still i love it. shame the sequels been delayed.
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my brother dragged me to pacific rim and i left the theater livid that anyone alive could enjoy something so loving heinous. goddamn i hate that movie so much it is the worst
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Fandyien posted:that being said this conversation has made me appreciate Snowpiercer more because most silly movies like it don't even seem to merit this sort of vague analysis reminder that batman and robin is about a gay couple, their lesbian friend (batgirl), fighting conservative gender roles (mr. freeze and his wife, crazy male rage bane, sexy poison ivy) for the most part even the "stupid" movies are made by people who consider themselves artist, so under analysis you realize "oh people with brains actually made this" but yeah i don't think snowpiecer is a stupid movie, its just kinda masquerading as a silly action movie, while still being a pretty awesome silly action movie
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mr.capps posted:for the most part even the "stupid" movies are made by people who consider themselves artist, so under analysis you realize "oh people with brains actually made this" i dont care if this is the case (i have my doubts), either way it is an awful and painful movie
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Fandyien posted:was it the third one with the fat character? cus i remember thinking the fat scotsman was funny when i was a child but i bet that holds up terribly now. I think it just might be. I MIGHT have even seen it in the cinema but i don't really remember.
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Panty Saluter posted:i dont care if this is the case (i have my doubts), either way it is an awful and painful movie yeah batman and robin is a very very lovely movie, i am just pointing out that film analysis should be apply to even the movies that most people wouldn't consider "worthy" to analyze
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theres a point where that becomes a waste of time though. like you can apply all the generally legitimate ideas behind critical analysis to any rando bullshit and if you're competent enough w/the jargon extract something that sounds meaningful but is actually as much of a load of crap as the media you're discussing
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i guess what i'm saying is that some things are just there for the MST3K treatment
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Fandyien posted:theres a point where that becomes a waste of time though. like you can apply all the generally legitimate ideas behind critical analysis to any rando bullshit and if you're competent enough w/the jargon extract something that sounds meaningful but is actually as much of a load of crap as the media you're discussing well duh
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mr.capps posted:yeah batman and robin is a very very lovely movie, i am just pointing out that film analysis should be apply to even the movies that most people wouldn't consider "worthy" to analyze that stuff shouldn't leave cinema discussion. it shouldn't even be there in the first place.
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hemale in pain posted:that stuff shouldn't leave cinema discussion. it shouldn't even be there in the first place. its true tho
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Fandyien posted:i have a really tough time believing anyone can do a legit remake of a movie that is good, at least partially, just because of how '80s it is The Fright Night remake works because it doesn't even try to go for nostalgia or cash-in on how 80s the original was. It literally strips everything from the original except for the skeleton of the characters and premise, reworks them a bit to make them fit the modern day a bit more, and then lets its better-than-it-deserved cast and sense of direction elevate the material. ----- Content-- The original Robocop is both really loving dumb and really loving smart at the same time. I also have a soft spot for Gremlins 2 which knows it's a dumb premise from frame one and goes for broke having fun with the setting and taking the piss out of the weird "lore" of the original.
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Yeah. Snowpiercer. Captain America's monologue at the end honestly made the movie for me. "I was the man with the knife."
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Blade 2 awful cgi + villian with cheap plastic ears and makeup + motorbike fight scene.
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hemale in pain posted:Blade 2 already posted
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The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra its a parody that shouldn't work but somehow it does
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Sweet Tea posted:i think snowpiercer is another good example. Yes, a good example of a poo poo movie made for morons
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gnarlyhotep posted:already posted like im gonna read all the posts in a thread lmao
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