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Rexides
Jul 25, 2011


When I started reading this crap, I always thought that it was the kind of thing that would never be made into an anime.

We live in truly amazing times.

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NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

Brought To You By posted:

The fact that Japan, a member of the apparently non-existent U.N., is allowed to declare such a major location their territory and everyone else has to slink around the sidelines makes no sense. Realistically there would be a multi-national cooperative sent through the gate.

lol at Japan being able to afford or having an occupying force and not handling it off to America and other allies in order to prevent Chinese or other intervention.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

NutritiousSnack posted:

lol at Japan being able to afford or having an occupying force and not handling it off to America and other allies in order to prevent Chinese or other intervention.

Well, it says that the JSDF has 200k+ active duty, so it would be pretty easy for them to take and hold the Gate in the middle of their city with numbers like that. The issue would be that there is literally nothing they could do to stop any foreign country looking to also get involved in Gate stuff, their only option being to "grant" the US permission to aid the expedition and to keep the other nations (Russia, China, Eurozone) in line.

But since the author is a right wing fetishist, all other nations are crazy jealous and resort to spec ops trying to abduct Gate natives when they arrive in Japan because they're too impotent to do anything else.

K. Flaps
Dec 7, 2012

by Athanatos
You guys are right but I've researched a bit myself and get this: there is no gate to a fantasy world in tokyo, and dragons can't exist. Another fatal flaw in the premise of this manga?

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



K. Flaps posted:

You guys are right but I've researched a bit myself and get this: there is no gate to a fantasy world in tokyo, and dragons can't exist. Another fatal flaw in the premise of this manga?
So basically fiction can't be lovely and poorly put together because its fiction? Good point man, wrap up the discussion guys, K. Flaps has declared broken suspension of disbelief isn't a thing and that dissonance just can't happen here.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

I too wish the political drama in the manga where the JSDF fights dragons was true to real life

Rexides
Jul 25, 2011

K. Flaps posted:

You guys are right but I've researched a bit myself and get this: there is no gate to a fantasy world in tokyo, and dragons can't exist. Another fatal flaw in the premise of this manga?

Spiderdrake posted:

So basically fiction can't be lovely and poorly put together because its fiction? Good point man, wrap up the discussion guys, K. Flaps has declared broken suspension of disbelief isn't a thing and that dissonance just can't happen here.

Namtab posted:

I too wish the political drama in the manga where the JSDF fights dragons was true to real life

:qq: When will the circle of sarcasm end? :qq:

thetoughestbean
Apr 27, 2013

Keep On Shroomin

Rexides posted:

:qq: When will the circle of sarcasm end? :qq:

Would someone please think of the children?!

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib
was there ever a point before these forums were basically a shitpost ouroboros?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Blhue posted:

was there ever a point before these forums were basically a shitpost ouroboros?

There used to be plenty of serious, effortful discussion in ADTRW.

Unfortunately, most of it was about child porn.

Butt Frosted Cake
Dec 27, 2010

Spiderdrake posted:

So basically fiction can't be lovely and poorly put together because its fiction? Good point man, wrap up the discussion guys, K. Flaps has declared broken suspension of disbelief isn't a thing and that dissonance just can't happen here.

:drat: spiderdrake effortlessly destroyed that strawman

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


K. Flaps posted:

You guys are right but I've researched a bit myself and get this: there is no gate to a fantasy world in tokyo, and dragons can't exist. Another fatal flaw in the premise of this manga?

i've also never even seen a catgirl! who does this manga think it's fooling?

linall
Feb 1, 2007

Blhue posted:

was there ever a point before these forums were basically a shitpost ouroboros?

Conceivably back in the day when people were too busy sharing porn to do anything else?

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Blhue posted:

was there ever a point before these forums were basically a shitpost ouroboros?

The point before it became cool to post about posting

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011


Hell yes

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon
I picked up Gate expecting to hate-read it after the anime was announced, based on all the people saying it was basically "Mein Kampf The Manga." So where the gently caress is all the racism, nationalism, and sexism I was promised?

Racism? The "the only country with black men in their forces is America!" page occurs when Special Forces are attacking an onsen, and the parties involved can only be Russia, China, or the US. The US is the most likely one in that group to have black guys in their SF, sure.

Nationalism, the JSDF isn't portrayed as anything special relative to other first-world nations. They impress the locals, but that's it; they're not jerking off at their brand-new Yamato Damashii jet fighters. It's a bog-standard modern-tech-meets-ancient-tech story, just starring the JSDF instead of First Cav or whatever. It's literally something Harry Turtledove would write except with an even more boring premise (because there is no drama).

Sexism I don't even know. The evil prince is a rapist and keeps sex slaves because he is the evil prince, I'm not sure that's intended to be an endorsement. The best character in the whole thing is the short JSDF chick who keeps ignoring the trigger on her gun in favor of bayoneting everyone so I think it's a wash :black101:

The real strike against Gate is that it's loving boring. It is nowhere near as interesting as it sounds, unless you have a hard-on for reaction shots of primitive screwheads oohing and awwing at helicopters and whatnot. There is exactly one interesting, dramatic moment when they fight a dragon, and the manga has finally picked that thread up again, but otherwise its 42 chapters of pure nothing because the bad guys can't oppose the good guys in any meaningful way. They exist to get poo poo on to show how inferior their backwards feudal society is.

Finally, the "good" princess in the enemy empire who works with the JSDF is named Pina Colada. I don't think this was intended as serious political commentary. The outcry makes no sense to me.

e: gas thread ban OP

Vengarr fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Dec 22, 2014

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Over reaction .txt

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Tenzarin posted:

Over reaction .txt

Hey now you be nice, be glad it wasn't goesfast.txt 2.0.

Pewdiepie
Oct 31, 2010

Vengarr posted:

I picked up Gate expecting to hate-read it after the anime was announced, based on all the people saying it was basically "Mein Kampf The Manga." So where the gently caress is all the racism, nationalism, and sexism I was promised?

Racism? The "the only country with black men in their forces is America!" page occurs when Special Forces are attacking an onsen, and the parties involved can only be Russia, China, or the US. The US is the most likely one in that group to have black guys in their SF, sure.

Nationalism, the JSDF isn't portrayed as anything special relative to other first-world nations. They impress the locals, but that's it; they're not jerking off at their brand-new Yamato Damashii jet fighters. It's a bog-standard modern-tech-meets-ancient-tech story, just starring the JSDF instead of First Cav or whatever. It's literally something Harry Turtledove would write except with an even more boring premise (because there is no drama).

Sexism I don't even know. The evil prince is a rapist and keeps sex slaves because he is the evil prince, I'm not sure that's intended to be an endorsement. The best character in the whole thing is the short JSDF chick who keeps ignoring the trigger on her gun in favor of bayoneting everyone so I think it's a wash :black101:

The real strike against Gate is that it's loving boring. It is nowhere near as interesting as it sounds, unless you have a hard-on for reaction shots of primitive screwheads oohing and awwing at helicopters and whatnot. There is exactly one interesting, dramatic moment when they fight a dragon, and the manga has finally picked that thread up again, but otherwise its 42 chapters of pure nothing because the bad guys can't oppose the good guys in any meaningful way. They exist to get poo poo on to show how inferior their backwards feudal society is.

Finally, the "good" princess in the enemy empire who works with the JSDF is named Pina Colada. I don't think this was intended as serious political commentary. The outcry makes no sense to me.

e: gas thread ban OP

I just dug up this thread to sum my thoughts on Gate but you already did it. This is one hell of a boring, interminable manga. The nationalism racism and sexism seem about standard for a manga so I don't see how it's noteworthy for that. God drat what a poo poo show. I'd recommend Gate only if you're having trouble getting sleep. You know what the dragon fight was loving boring too and the action was really poorly conveyed.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Terrible news, Gate still comes out:
http://bato.to/read/_/293284/gate-thus-the-jsdf-fought-there_ch43_by_ak-scanlations

There's actually not much to complain about here, it's mostly just Itami doing his best Bilbo impression.

amuayse
Jul 20, 2013

by exmarx
The main character is a Gary Stu and the diplomacy makes no sense.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

amuayse posted:

The main character is a Gary Stu and the diplomacy makes no sense.

The entire story and plot is just an excuse for the author to show off his hardcore nationalism, xenophobia, and hard-on for the Japanese military kicking everyone's asses.

Every single iteration of the series since the original webnovel has been modified by editors/publishers to tone down those aspects. The Webnovel was hilariously and offensively racist to the highest degree, so it was toned down a bit for the light novel. Then when the manga got the greenlight it was toned down again for the manga, and if history is any indication the anime is going to be toned down as well (or maybe not since the magician at high school was pretty popular even though it was extremely pro-Japan militarism and racist as poo poo)

Rexides
Jul 25, 2011

amuayse posted:

The main character is a Gary Stu and the diplomacy makes no sense.

If these are the only things you disliked, then you obviously didn't appreciate the true awfulness of this masterpiece.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012

Rexides posted:

If these are the only things you disliked, then you obviously didn't appreciate the true awfulness of this masterpiece.

Like giving untrained combatants access to heavy firearms?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Pewdiepie posted:

I just dug up this thread to sum my thoughts on Gate but you already did it. This is one hell of a boring, interminable manga. The nationalism racism and sexism seem about standard for a manga so I don't see how it's noteworthy for that. God drat what a poo poo show. I'd recommend Gate only if you're having trouble getting sleep. You know what the dragon fight was loving boring too and the action was really poorly conveyed.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Brought To You By posted:

Like giving untrained combatants access to heavy firearms?

Oh sure you americans and your hollywood movies have everyone using a bazooka to shoot down an arab but you can't have a japanese man give a bazooka to a black elf to kill a dragon. Nice! Very good!

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

The retarded OP didn't tell me why Terraformars is Racist/Nationalist or Sexist or why Gate is as well at least when compared to hollywood movies made by the United Snakes of Amerikkka. Gas with a prejudice.

Sagabal
Apr 24, 2010

Maybe the anime will let to get us watch twisted elf mages cast frost magic and fire swords at teenager nips who shoot grenade launchers and bazookas.

Sagabal
Apr 24, 2010

I just read more about thing, and it sounds boring, so I'm gonna go jack off to gyaru instead.

krampster2
Jun 26, 2014

when does the anime come out? should be in the op

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

krampster2 posted:

when does the anime come out? should be in the op

I'm more curious to see what art style the go with. The manga artist seems like a pretty mediocre talent, and a lot of the LN covers look a lot better in general.

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

Alejandro Sanchez posted:

I just read more about thing, and it sounds boring, so I'm gonna go jack off to gyaru instead.

It is loving boring. That's my summary summarized.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
So, a new character appears. A dragon-god-stripper? This series really knows what its fans want.

Sagabal
Apr 24, 2010

pentyne posted:

So, a new character appears. A dragon-god-stripper? This series really knows what its fans want.

Butt Frosted Cake
Dec 27, 2010

that manga is way better than gate

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
The death of the dragon was pretty cool though.

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
So about how many levels of crazy is this over a show such as Cross Ange or SamFlam? Looking forward to this anime when it airs.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

This one and those two are 3 entirely different flavors of crazy.

Rexides
Jul 25, 2011

They defeated the dragon with loving MAGIC? What the gently caress is this bullshit? There is only one reason I keep reading this garbage, and it was the promise of seeing a fantasy creature getting blown to pieces using modern weapons.

gently caress you, manga. gently caress you, and your stupid fanservice characters.

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Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

I don't think you could kill a dragon with a gun, because they are very big and have strong scales, and also can breathe fire if they want. It makes them very powerful.

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