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Joementum posted:Probably zero, but you're in North Carolina, IIRC. In that state, delegates to the DNC are awarded proportionally by congressional district with a 15% viability threshold. So work your butt off for a candidate (and also donate a ton of cash if it's a major candidate) and if you suck up enough to their campaign and they do well enough in your CD, they might put you on the delegate slate. I'm actually in VA now (I've moved back and forth). Our CD is pretty hollow. There's one real city and a lot of country. We have 8 people at meetings on a good night. I'm sure more friends of the few electeds we have will come out of the woodwork for this, but if I'm ever going to get it, nows the time. If I move back to civilization, I'm sure it'll be much harder. FYI: I do remember that, for comparison, my current district sent 65 delegates to state convention in 2012. Others sent 250+. With an open primary, I'm sure it'll change, but it's a small pond. Of course, I may waste my time on Sanders and end up with nothing.
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As a non-American Huckabee is the only republican candidate in recent years who has real charisma in public speaking and interviews. I think almost all of his opinions are terrible but he's really great at coming across as a nice reasonable guy and although that should be easy I can't think of many others on that side of the aisle who've managed it in the last decade. Charisma doesn't seem to mean as much as it used to though, didn't help Huntsman.
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Torka posted:As a non-American Huckabee is the only republican candidate in recent years who has real charisma in public speaking and interviews. I think almost all of his opinions are terrible but he's really great at coming across as a nice reasonable guy and although that should be easy I can't think of many others on that side of the aisle who've managed it in the last decade. You can have all the charisma in the world and it doesn't matter to the GOP if you say that climate change is real. "The one thing all of us have a responsibility to do is to recognize that climate change is here, it’s real. What we have to do is stop pointing fingers about who’s at fault and saying whose responsibility it is to fix it and recognize it’s all our fault and it’s all our responsibility to fix it. … I also support cap and trade of carbon emissions. And I was disappointed that the Senate rejected a carbon counting system to measure the sources of emissions, because that would have been the first and the most important step toward implementing true cap and trade."
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Nov 13, 2014 04:22
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Huntsman 4/5, would bang again. Too bad about the Burn The Poor fiscal policy Huntsman is the candidate the GoP needs, being the one guy who could absolutely pull away a huge chunk of those affluent socially-liberal/fiscally-indifferent white Democratic voters the GoP wants. I doubt it was his climate change position that killed his candidacy, though, considering that McCain got the nomination*. It was the lack of name-recognition, lack establishment or media allies (Fox and the other cable news stations treated him as a joke candidate no matter what he did) and being a secret chinee. *granted, that was in a very different political climate, but it showed that the establishment does not mind lining up behind an environmental moderate regardless of what the conservative base thinks. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Nov 13, 2014 04:36
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I forget if it was Erick Erickson or Moe Lane but one of the two big Red State (big, media-driving Tea Party website) guys absolutely hated Huntsman for organizing his campaign while ambassador. He considered it near-traitorous that someone would be working to undermine the President while in a position like that. Whether he would always react that way or whether those beliefs were triggered by an existing hatred of Huntsman I don't know but if I remember correctly Obama was very mad about it too, for similar reasons.
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Nov 13, 2014 05:06
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Huntsman is the perfect Republican to run if all you think the Republicans need to do to win is just run more Democrats. When you run as King Moderate and can't get above third in New Hampshire with your registered Republican support in the low teens you never had a shot.
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Nov 13, 2014 05:30
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CubsWoo posted:Huntsman is the perfect Republican to run if all you think the Republicans need to do to win is just run more Democrats. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Nov 13, 2014 05:45
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CubsWoo posted:That's a picture from 2009 at age 61. I would hope she didn't look 69 back then! Here's how she looked stumping for Landrieu: I'm reminded of a recent Gravity Falls moment, because I watch cartoons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkkHFHAHubk "SHE'S DOING THE BEST SHE CAN, SOOS"
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Nov 13, 2014 07:11
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Cliff Racer posted:I forget if it was Erick Erickson or Moe Lane but one of the two big Red State (big, media-driving Tea Party website) guys absolutely hated Huntsman for organizing his campaign while ambassador. He considered it near-traitorous that someone would be working to undermine the President while in a position like that. Whether he would always react that way or whether those beliefs were triggered by an existing hatred of Huntsman I don't know but if I remember correctly Obama was very mad about it too, for similar reasons. Some people were calling that nomination a masterstroke on Obama's part because of how he was nullifying his most dangerous would-be 2012 rival.
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Nov 13, 2014 07:16
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:Some people were calling that nomination a masterstroke on Obama's part because of how he was nullifying his most dangerous would-be 2012 rival. Maybe the same reason the Huntsman-for-SecState gossip after 2012 never led to anything in real life. Less "He's a Republican!", more "that would give him traction for 2016" PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Nov 13, 2014 07:21
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I've got an idea! If Cruz runs for president, we'll bypass his slippery rear end with our own birther movement! Except we'll be right, cause he WAS born in Canada!
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Nov 13, 2014 07:36
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Remember that "Cruz to the Future" coloring book from last year? According to Vox, the creators are back with a new supplement entitled "Ted Cruz Saves America", apparently from snakes representing "high taxes", "illegal immigration" and "lawlessness" among others. There are also tantalizing hints in the PR release that elsewhere in the book Cruz rides on an eagle representing American exceptionalism, so take that as you will.
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Nov 13, 2014 17:37
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Ted Cruz commits impiety by undermining faith in the government he was entrusted to sustain, so Poseidon (Obama) sends snakes to destroy him. A Laocoön coloring book.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Remember that "Cruz to the Future" coloring book from last year? According to Vox, the creators are back with a new supplement entitled "Ted Cruz Saves America", apparently from snakes representing "high taxes", "illegal immigration" and "lawlessness" among others. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1619530945/ref=pd_aw_sims_2?pi=SL500_SY115&simLd=1 The coloring book with principals.
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Nov 13, 2014 18:21
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There's a good chance the state of Michigan will give its electoral votes to the winners of gerrymandered congressional distracts rather than the current winner-takes-all.
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Foyes36 posted:There's a good chance the state of Michigan will give its electoral votes to the winners of gerrymandered congressional distracts rather than the current winner-takes-all. That's not what that story says. It says that he wants to change it in an unspecified way he claims ensures the winner actually gets the majority of the votes, and also notes he tried to do it the district way you describe in 2011 but failed. It also doesn't actually suggest this is likely to go anywhere.
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Grouchio posted:If Cruz runs for president, we'll bypass his slippery rear end Tee hee.
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Snyder has also said he would veto a bill that changes how Michigan awards EVs.
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Joementum posted:Snyder has also said he would veto a bill that changes how Michigan awards EVs. That's kind of shocking.
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evilweasel posted:That's not what that story says. It says that he wants to change it in an unspecified way he claims ensures the winner actually gets the majority of the votes, and also notes he tried to do it the district way you describe in 2011 but failed. It also doesn't actually suggest this is likely to go anywhere. Whoops, my bad, I'll blame it on a series of confusing posts by the DFP and my laziness.
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:That's kind of shocking. The Republican Party has had (delusions) of making Michigan competitive in a presidential race. If they split the votes, the state is meaningless (why campaign for a handful of EV's at the max) while if they remain winner-take-all he can try to make Michigan actually relevant. That means he gets to be a valued surrogate when the 2016 guy campaigns there which is good for him personally.
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We're shaping up to have a week of Southern state primaries in March, with Texas and Florida already on the 1st, Louisiana on the 5th, Alabama and Mississippi on the 8th, and Georgia looking to move to the 1st.
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De Nomolos posted:I'm actually in VA now (I've moved back and forth). I'm not permitted by my new job to get involved in politics in any way other than voting, so be politically active in central VA vicariously through you. Sulphuric Sundae fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Nov 13, 2014 22:54
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Joementum posted:We're shaping up to have a week of Southern state primaries in March, with Texas and Florida already on the 1st, Louisiana on the 5th, Alabama and Mississippi on the 8th, and Georgia looking to move to the 1st. I wish more regions would do this. Ideally 8-10 different regions holding primaries, separated by 2-4 weeks in between each region. It'd make campaigns a LOT easier and organized.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Remember that "Cruz to the Future" coloring book from last year? According to Vox, the creators are back with a new supplement entitled "Ted Cruz Saves America", apparently from snakes representing "high taxes", "illegal immigration" and "lawlessness" among others. Hmm what a well thought out image to borrow from, considering how Laocoön totally kicked those snakes' asses and sure didn't get poisoned and die or anything.
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Joementum posted:Snyder has also said he would veto a bill that changes how Michigan awards EVs. See, I'm mixed on this. On one hand, a solid block of electoral votes makes winning the popular vote within the state the most important element of an election. On the other, it ensures continued increase in broadcast prices as national parties pour in an increasing amount of capital that goes straight to the bottom line of a state's largest media holders, and concentrates power at the state level within the hands of those who influence editorial leanings and broadcast rates. Splitting the vote loses billions of capital influx to the state, while also lowering the price for candidate competitiveness and opens elected offices to a more diverse subset of of a state's population. So, how much exactly is a vote in the electoral college worth?
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SedanChair posted:Ted Cruz commits impiety by undermining faith in the government he was entrusted to sustain, so Poseidon (Obama) sends snakes to destroy him. A Laocoön coloring book. More like Ted Cruz realizes that Obama is secretly trying to infiltrate Socialism into the US in the guise of a "gift" and will desperately try and warn us. But our fate is sealed and the gods are trying to destroy (his career) in revenge.
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Shouldn't Bernie be on the 'Reasons the Dems didn't win' list instead of the Dem list?
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The right wing media thread just reminded me (sorry Joementum) that Joe Liberman is still alive and once considered vice presidential. Where does he stand for 2016? Time for some front running or is he again limited to dragging down the back end of a low-buzz ticket?
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shadow puppet of a posted:The right wing media thread just reminded me (sorry Joementum) that Joe Liberman is still alive and once considered vice presidential. He's now 72. I doubt he's going to be doing much of anything other than cheerleading.
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Joe Lieberman is now the co-chair (with Jon Huntsman) of No Labels.
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CubsWoo posted:Huntsman is the perfect Republican to run if all you think the Republicans need to do to win is just run more Democrats. When you run as King Moderate and can't get above third in New Hampshire with your registered Republican support in the low teens you never had a shot. Wasn't Huntsman's kiss of death a recommendation by Obama during the Primary? Oh sweet irony. Lote fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Lote posted:Wasn't Huntsman's kiss of death a recommendation by Obama during the Primary? Oh sweet irony. From this side it was probably the Piers Morgan interview back in 2011.
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De Nomolos posted:I'm actually in VA now (I've moved back and forth). Are you an elected official at the local, state, or federal level? Are you employed by the city/county/state due to a political appointment? Do you seemingly switch between government offices and campaign work, based on which candidate you worked for actually won? In these cases, you have a good chance of being part of your state delegation. At the very least, your chances improve beyond "almost zero" if you run and are elected as a precinct committeeman.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Remember that "Cruz to the Future" coloring book from last year? Hahahaha oh man those Amazon reviews are just as good, if not better, than the book itself. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
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I don't see how Huckabee gains any traction with Santorum splitting the culture warrior vote. His year was 2012. He could have stomped out Santorum's no budget campaign before Iowa and been positioned as the friendly evangelical next to the robotic Mormon.
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He had Brownback splitting the religious vote with him back in 2008 before Sam dropped out. The same could happen again, neither candidate can win while the other is in the race so logic would say that one of the two would see the writing on the wall and drop out a few months before the primary again.
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Brownback had a real job and could afford to quit. All that's left for these two is speaking fees and grifting. I think they'll stay in.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Are you an elected official at the local, state, or federal level? Are you employed by the city/county/state due to a political appointment? Do you seemingly switch between government offices and campaign work, based on which candidate you worked for actually won? In these cases, you have a good chance of being part of your state delegation. We have a grand total of 3 elected state delegates or senators in this district (actually only 1 seat is fully in the district, but all of them live here). The only time a Dem held this district in my parents lifetime was for a couple years post-Watergate. It has a long GOP heritage and more in common with rural PA and MD than the South. Most county positions are GOP, outside a few independents who would be Dems if it wasn't a liability. I am a precinct committeeman. The largest localities are GOP-dominated, except mine, where we still have a paltry committee despite holding the mayors office and a 4-2 advantage on council. We are the 2nd most rural district in the state and even more devoid of Dem-leaning activists when you consider that the most rural has a decent union presence. I have a shot.
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De Nomolos posted:I'm actually in VA now (I've moved back and forth). notthegoatseguy posted:Are you an elected official at the local, state, or federal level? Are you employed by the city/county/state due to a political appointment? Do you seemingly switch between government offices and campaign work, based on which candidate you worked for actually won? In these cases, you have a good chance of being part of your state delegation. Last time (2012) there were two ways to get to go to the DNC Convention as a normal person: (a) CD-level conventions picked 8 delegates each (4 men, 4 women) and (b) the state convention picked 20-something at large DNC delegates. At the state convention there are gonna be slates from the campaign(s) and 99% of the time everyone on the winning campaign's slate wins. The CD level conventions are made up from folks who go to the county-level caucuses. If the county level caucuses don't hit their quota, everyone in that caucus moves onto the CD convention. So if you fill your county-level caucus with your buddies, that'll be a big bloc at the CD convention (which you mentioned isn't gonna be full) which can vote for you. You can also team up with other folks in your CD doing the same thing - their buddies vote for them and you, and your buddies vote for you and them. Realistically, the Presidential primary would be March 1st (Super Tuesday), the CD convention would be in April, and the State Convention would be in June. So you could theoretically back Sanders November-March, turn around and spend 2 months being a super-volunteer for Hillary, and still be seen as an active Hillary person or even campaign as a "Unity ticket" (which seems to be popular even when it's not actually unifying anything).
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