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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i pre ordered it because i used to love total war games but it made me never want to play one again. except medieval II and maybe shogun 2 those both loving own bones

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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Big Beef City posted:

I got the MedII Americas expansion in some Steam sale a few years back and fired it up, having only ever played the vanilla game. I played as Spain, based myself in cuba and then spent I have no idea how long in game just leading a full stack of conquistadores up into the plains states and riding around for years running into various tiny tribes while the actual power house native teams just dicked around in central and southern america.

that expansion is tons of fun. all expending native auxiliaries in huge destructive battles, just like the real spanish. i could never really get in to playing as any of the native factions though, they just don't have very many fun units beyond bee throwers

imo the crusades expansion is even better, winning as the seljuks is so goddamn satisfying

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



shogun 2 speeches were as good or better

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



all those pretty screenshots are cleverly avoiding the ultimate fate of those soldiers and boats, which is "massing beneath a wall because we can't use ladders" and "sailing around aimlessly until glitching out", respectively

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i bought adderall specially for R2's release and stayed up all night. i was so loving ready for it to unlock at like 5:00 in the morning. when it was utter poo poo i lost my faith in videogames forever and i will never preorder another thing

i did discover victoria 2 though and that owns

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



also its wonderful how they removed everything unique about TW games, tied armies to generals, and instead of cool art put horrible soul less 3d portraits ion everything. those advisers are poo poo

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



or when horses, which run slower than most foot units, do everything in single file and get killed by light infantry

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i bought eu4 and couldn't get into it at all. it just seems to lack the depth of victoria II, all you do is paint maps and go to war and genocide indians. booooring

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i mostly didn't like the points system for the technology or the whole inbetween systems like stability and stuff. it felt like a hamfisted way of expressing things through the gamiest medium they could find

crusader kings 2 didn't do it for me either i just felt like i was waiting around for random events with teh game running at the fastest speed

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



i love the poo poo out of shogun 2 but i've never actually beaten it because even if you start to win after the insanely unfair realm divide it just becomes a wipe-up maneuver slog. like you know you're gonna win so whats teh point of spending another 14 hours doing crazy long battles against an enemy whose ability to resist is crumbling?

that being said the pre-realm divide parts of S2 are insanely fun especially if you go christian and capture the black ship

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



also S2 had almost ideal unit variety. everything had a purpose and a distinct tactical orientation, unlike, say, darthmod napoleon where you have 15 of the same unit with slightly different color uniforms because that's more historically accurate or w/e

spain in darthmod napoleon had over 50 units, iirc

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



after they updated it to empire edition i tried to start it up again and it crashed so i uninstalled it. i wish i could give away games in my steam library

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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



WEH posted:

I love shogun 2 but I felt like it had about four units: bow, spear, katana, and naginata or whatever. sure there were different levels of them but they just had a little more or less armor and frankly you just needed naginata and bows because horses couldn't win in melee and bows owned everything else. foot samurai fuckin owned tho and I'm mad they were only in RoS. also siege battles were very hard to lose if you were defending to the point that you didn't even need a dedicated garrison past a certain level

I thought emperor edition was completely acceptable and fun but I had to wait for mods to catch up

i dunno there were inbetweens like bow samurai, special ninja units, and cavalry was definitely a thing though now that i'm thinking about it naginata cavalry and bow cav was all i ever used. if you went christian though you could have those cool european auxilaries and stuff which really changed battle dynamics sometimes

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