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Flesh Forge posted:I dunno I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Dark Knight (with Heath Ledger's awesome Joker) was a real, true masterpiece. From the intense and well-placed musical score to the timing to all of the set pieces to fuckin Tiny Lister throwing the bomb detonator off of the jailbird ferry, it hit so many good notes. Not quite flawless, but imo his best film (certainly way, way better than Interstellar). Even ignoring the done-to-death arguments of whether or not The Dark Knight is some sort of weird right wing fantasy and/or defense of the Patriot Act, The Dark Knight is far from a masterpiece. It's genuinely no-fooling good, but it's got a lot of very clear problems that go beyond the usual "well even a masterpiece has flaws" kind-of criticism-- Bale's Bat-Voice, Dent's maddeningly muddy arc, the bullshit sonar gadget, the general plotholes regarding the police and general public acting dumber-than-is-believable to let the Joker's plans seem genius--it's just not that good in the end. I've still never seen Memento so I reserve the right to be wrong on this, but going solely off of his flicks I've seen The Prestige is far and away his best work because he's not working around some "dumber than it sounds" high-concept or pretentious attempt to say something scholarly about Batman and failing miserably.
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Larry Parrish posted:Basically what I'm saying is that despite the handful of logic wierdness which you shouldn't give a gently caress about in a movie, it's really fun to watch in IMAX and none of the scenes were too long to make the movie feel torturous like the 3 hour Hulk movie. Counterpoints: - Matt Damon slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwly walking away (even he cringes through the whole thing it's so loving terrible) - The crosscut finale with Daddy sending gravity messages, Murphy picking her rear end in a dusty room, and Topher outside screaming THE CORN IS ON FIRE OMG Although yeah those are the only two really bad offenders in the dragasstic sense, the entire film just felt about 40 minutes longer than it needed to be. The whole Matt Damon Space Madness planet could have been cut and I would have been just as pleased, although it gives us the crisis of the ship being damaged and having to do the whole slingshot around the black hole poo poo. While the moment of impact was pretty hilarious it didn't make up for the tedious mess that went before it to set it up.
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mind the walrus posted:Even ignoring the done-to-death arguments of whether or not The Dark Knight is some sort of weird right wing fantasy and/or defense of the Patriot Act, The Dark Knight is far from a masterpiece. I'm not gonna try to debate whether or not DK was a great movie but I'll totally agree that it was a right wing fantasy, Batman himself is absolutely a fascist. Comic book heroes in general are somewhat guilty of this but Batman takes his elitist fantasy over the top.
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I won't go into the Fascist stuff, but I never said The Dark Knight wasn't great, it's just not a masterpiece. It's not going to become part of the cinema canon and be taught 50 years from now in film schools. None of Nolan's movies are unless you're doing so specifically to study some cinematography techniques.
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I mostly just wanted the movie to end with Topher Grace beating the poo poo out of Casey Affleck with a tire iron, and in this regard the film was a complete failure
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That was topher grace? Got dam what happened to him? Didn't even recognize him at all
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Nov 16, 2014 06:45
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At least it had space madness too since it really helped the plot of Sunshine.
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Spakstik posted:I mostly just wanted the movie to end with Topher Grace beating the poo poo out of Casey Affleck with a tire iron, and in this regard the film was a complete failure same, except the other way around, i wanted topher grace to get whipped and then casey affleck to also smack his sister and throw her out hte house
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interstellar space is really cold and there are comets and stars and whatnot
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SmokaDustbowl posted:interstellar space is really cold and there are comets and stars and whatnot I actually thought this thread would be about cool interesting space facts. Alien(s) was a good movie(s).
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interstellar was better when it was 2001 and 2001 was better when it was the intro to that simpsons episode so basically what i'm saying is
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did you guys know that love can travel faster than light? i think that is really profound in a spiritual way and science cant explain it
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LordArgh posted:did you guys know that love can travel faster than light? i think that is really profound in a spiritual way and science cant explain it Yes, because I believe it so.
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India doesn't bother with security in it's drones. "Maybe we’ve spent too long trying to figure all this out with theory. Love is the one thing that transcends time and space" "Or not"Engineer that NASA needs just happens to stumble into NASA. Black hole non-spaghetiffication. Good job that daughter never had sex in her bedroom. "Out of orbit now" Wait where the gently caress are you then? Because you were entering a planets atmosphere a second ago. Going behind a planet will not shield you from gravity of the neutron star. Going anywhere near a loving neutron star. Woman has created a village with no people in it. NASA created a rocket that launches from within a space station that can't be launched anyway. SSTO Invulnerable heat shields. I mean gently caress me that's just wiping a turd in the face of the Columbia crews families. TLDR: the answer to all our problems is O'neill cylinders. Give me my loving 10 quid back and put it towards one of them. u fink u hard Percy fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Nov 16, 2014 |
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haven't seen it yet but this movie sounds terrible and it looks to be shaping up to be another prometheus where there are people who will defend this turd till the end of time
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I wouldn't say it's terrible but yeah it's not a flawless masterpiece either. The main message is really schmaltzy and the science, despite all the hype about how much effort they put into it, is just your basic Hollywood movie rubber science. Overall I came away entertained but really annoyed at much of the plot.
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Simstim posted:haven't seen it yet but this movie sounds terrible and it looks to be shaping up to be another prometheus where there are people who will defend this turd till the end of time this is good because it explains death cults consensus:  literally any turd that you put any effort in will attract hardcore fans that you can exploit
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"interesting" take from FYAD Triticum Guzzler posted:Act 1 - Matthew McConaughey mumbles really loud for an hour. The mumbling has a high volume but remains indistinct. He is a farmer but also an astronaut.
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Top City Homo posted:"interesting" take from FYAD fyad is right
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Mange Mite posted:fyad is right 
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also matthew mcconaughey in th emovie looks like some sort of overly tanned john kerry/al pacino hybrid
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Mange Mite posted:also matthew mcconaughey in th emovie looks like some sort of overly tanned john kerry/al pacino hybrid i liked the bit about the space race existing only to bankrupt the soviet union being the official government propaganda but then finding out that all the nations of the world have united and are building huge space stations
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so is tesseract a real word now and if so what does it mean
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sexy young infidel posted:so is tesseract a real word now and if so what does it mean a tesseract i think is a inside out circle or some such poo poo
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sexy young infidel posted:so is tesseract a real word now and if so what does it mean i think its a hypercube or something like that
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it's the word for a pimple inside your urethra
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I thought they were literally talking about the blue cube from Avengers the whole time
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Nerds pick apart blockbuster science fi movie for not tailoring to their nerd sensibilities and are baffled at someone going insane after spending a decade alone because their solitude is supplemented by the Internet on which they can voice aforementioned nerd pickings apart
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Also every decade, and year in fact, is the best time for anything because the previous years and decades have enriched the things plus all the past things are available goddamn goons are dumb
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Bolek, no one knows what the gently caress you are talking baout
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overall i liked the movie. i didn't really like the end but the first half was really intense and well done imo. also seeing people complain that he didn't get torn apart approaching the black hole makes me lol. sexy young infidel posted:so is tesseract a real word now and if so what does it mean a tesseract is the 4 dimensional equivalent of a cube. an object in 4 dimensions which has a cube for each of its "faces". the name is used as a fill in for scifi bullshit in this movie, the avengers, and a wrinkle in time.
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Bolek posted:Nerds pick apart blockbuster science fi movie for not tailoring to their nerd sensibilities and are baffled at someone going insane after spending a decade alone because their solitude is supplemented by the Internet on which they can voice aforementioned nerd pickings apart nerds are the WORST!!!!!!!
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CISMALES DID 9-11 posted:nerds doing some real interstellar future past-changing stuff IRL acting like they've "known" christopher nolan was a "hack" for years despite him being the internet's biggest circlejerk for an entire decade because he made good comic book movies
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Bolek posted:Also every decade, and year in fact, is the best time for anything because the previous years and decades have enriched the things plus all the past things are available goddamn goons are dumb Telling it like it is on a lovely internet forum way to go bolek!!!!
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ilikedirt posted:nerds are the WORST!!!!!!! They really are. Unless something is catered to them, specifically it's almost a complete failure. They'll let one flaw drag something down for them and talk and think too much about trivial poo poo in media. Nerds are the worst.
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am i the only one getting totally triggered by everyone posting about the "black spaceman" as if he didnt have a name and had no characterization beyond being black?!?
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yes, there was more to him than that he had a name like biggs or willis. or was it count blackula the black
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I can understand why people didn't like it, that's cool
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Criminal Minded posted:
Out of the films you listed admittedly I've only seen half, and I liked half of those. But I kinda think the 80s and early 90s had a stronger lineup all around. I think the problem is that action sci-fi like Aliens and Terminator 2 just isn't done well anymore. The best films on your list are all very heady, introspective films. And when modern sci-fi tries to do action too... it's usually crap. Similarly, there just aren't very many space operas now. Nothing even remotely like The Empire Strikes Back or The Wrath of Khan. TV was a different story... TV scifi I think peaked in the early 00s, and it was very strong in the 90s. TV scifi now... kinda sucks. There is still good scifi in theaters. I think we're getting as many good scifi films as we've always gotten and the special effects allow a lot more to be done, but maybe we're just not getting the kind of scifi people are holding out for.
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