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Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!
This is a fun game and a surprisingly good port. Not really expecting quality releases from Sega these days but there you have it. :shrug:

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SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!
Meanwhile, as far as the writing goes... look, I'm just going to quote Eurogamer here, and if this doesn't sound amazing to you then 1) I don't think this is going to be The Game For You and 2) I think you may want to get your ability to sense fun examined:

quote:

And yet the game is also nuts. I mean, it's just barmy. Valkyria Chronicles remains an excellent tactical wargame with all the finest traditions of squad selection and small-arms tactics, a rarity on any console and something that prefigured the new XCOM. Though that's not all it is. It's also chirpy, cheesy and downright daft. One moment you find the plot has weaved its way through a fantasy interpretation of World War II to suddenly present you with a sombre labour camp and the game's analogy for national anti-Semitism. Then, your sergeant is suddenly yelling at you about his love for vegetables, and with good reason, since his spontaneous passion for potatoes has just granted him special powers.

Your squad members babble away to one another, sneering or smiling according to who likes who, before stumbling their way into another brutally difficult battle punctuated by onomatopoeic captions like BLAM, RATTA and RUSTLE RUSTLE. You read another one of their cheery biographies before a battle, discover one of them is only fifteen, then find yourself watching as the kid is caught by the incandescent tongue of a flamethrower and moans their last words into the dirt, slipping away before a medic can reach them, alone on some corner of a far battlefield that will be forever Gallia.

The translation is still a bit stiffer in places than I'd really like it to be (and, surprise, a pre-Persona 4 Japanese game had somewhat bad voice direction), but the heart of the game could survive through anything short of Google Translate.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
The solution is to use Jane and always Jane.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

The quickest substitution in the history of the NBA

SpaceDrake posted:

This should also be emphasized - the system requirements on the Steam Store page are a joke. I'm convinced this will run on a good single-core machine and any DirectX9-compatible graphics card. I actually wish I still owned my GeForce 6800, just for the sake of curiosity in seeing if the game would run. It's been run on an 8600 at 30fps (though not 60) in 720p. You could probably get a playable framerate out of a loving first-gen DX9 card if you bumped down to 640x480.

I'm running the game at 4k resolution and hitting 60fps no problem on equipment that was mid-range performance 3-5 years ago. It's awesome.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Lunethex posted:

The solution is to use Jane and always Jane.

This man is your friend, and he fights for Ragnite exploitation freedom. Jane and Wendy are my go-to-girls when I need Imps dead.

oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

SpaceDrake posted:

Meanwhile, as far as the writing goes... look, I'm just going to quote Eurogamer here, and if this doesn't sound amazing to you then 1) I don't think this is going to be The Game For You and 2) I think you may want to get your ability to sense fun examined:


The translation is still a bit stiffer in places than I'd really like it to be (and, surprise, a pre-Persona 4 Japanese game had somewhat bad voice direction), but the heart of the game could survive through anything short of Google Translate.

I agree, while this is not Pulitzer prize winning writing, it's actually pretty good and the zany antics fit perfectly with the art style. This is NOT VC2 and related bullshit to that. You guys are nuts if you think that VC1 is terrible plot/writing/characters.

Dragon Age Inquisition might be more to your style as Polygon proclaimed that its writing is amazing. Here is some evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiJYrtbTYMY

Oh, and yeah, snipers are fairly amazing once they are in the teen levels and have a good weapon and unlocked potential (Marina is quite a bit better then anyone else). Use them and have an engineer replenish their ammo.

Edit 2: God drat steam thread and people keeping asking about Welkin and sister.

oblomov fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Nov 13, 2014

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

SpaceDrake posted:

Meanwhile, as far as the writing goes... look, I'm just going to quote Eurogamer here, and if this doesn't sound amazing to you then 1) I don't think this is going to be The Game For You and 2) I think you may want to get your ability to sense fun examined:

Oh, that's good. I just started the game and while the gameplay looks great and I actually do like the art style, the writing and timing of the scenes is confusing. Like, immediately after the prologue battle, Alicia says she has stuff to do, and is next seen...bringing day old bread to Welkin in his home? Isn't she supposed to be rallying the town watchmen or moving civilians to shelters or something?

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Det_no posted:

It's hard to believe just how well optimized this poo poo is. It literally will run on loving anything, including my awful mobile intel HD 3000.

SEGA must have been taken over by wizards judging by their decision to port this and how well it works.

I mean, it's also a turn-based strategy game with a fairly simple, cartoony art style. As things go it doesn't seem that demanding.

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?
Saw it wasn't mentioned in the OP, but when Stormtroopers hit Elite level the T-MAG line of machine guns also opens up to make. Their gimmick is that they have a higher clip capacity, and actually start to outpace the Mags M line in total damage after a few upgrades.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!

SALT CURES HAM posted:

I mean, it's also a turn-based strategy game with a fairly simple, cartoony art style. As things go it doesn't seem that demanding.

It had some folks worried because the canvas watercolor effect is applied to everything, and handled poorly it could very easily drag. But no, the port is legitimately optimized and will run on a toaster.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

The GIG posted:

Saw it wasn't mentioned in the OP, but when Stormtroopers hit Elite level the T-MAG line of machine guns also opens up to make. Their gimmick is that they have a higher clip capacity, and actually start to outpace the Mags M line in total damage after a few upgrades.

Slap one of the Orders that add to their armour damage, and at close ranges they can closely match your Lancers in terms of damage, while being more versatile. And personality-wise, Largo and Jann are the only Lancers worth taking anyway.

damn horror queefs
Oct 14, 2005

say hello
say hello to the man in the elevator
So I take it this is kinda like Fire Emblem crossed with Front Mission (plus concentration camps inexplicably thrown in for funsies)? Haven't played a console since ye olde ps2 days so I've never even heard of the series before.

I would throw so much money at a decent Front Mission game for PC, drat.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

CommissarMega posted:

Slap one of the Orders that add to their armour damage, and at close ranges they can closely match your Lancers in terms of damage, while being more versatile. And personality-wise, Largo and Jann are the only Lancers worth taking anyway.

Until you get Audrey, then personalities take a backseat to her best potential.

Ultimate Anti-Armor Boost which activates 100% of the time she is selected :stare:

e. Also speaking of potentials, if you want your troops to get their best personal boosts, then do the first skirmish you unlock, the Outskirts of Bruhl I think it is, then whichever troop you want to 'level up' have them teamkill at least three other people with a grenade, have the teamkiller call a medic for them, then just have Alicia charge the main camp and capture it. Afterwards, talk to Ellet in Headquarters and they should get it. Eventually. I forget the specifics but it also unlocks more of that character's bio.

Lunethex fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Nov 13, 2014

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

drat horror queefs posted:

So I take it this is kinda like Fire Emblem crossed with Front Mission
Not really, no. I mean, they're all strategy games, but it doesn't share many elements in common with either of those series.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

The closest analogy I can think of is anime XCOM, except without the base management and you've got to line up your shots instead of praying the RNG doesn't hate you.

Mushball
May 23, 2012
Is there some sort of bandoleer I can buy for my snipers so they carry more than 3 bullets on their person? It's a minor gripe I have with those guys aside from being terrible shots in the early game.


I got a sort of Jagged Alliance style vibe from how your soldiers like or dislike one another which makes me wish this game was way more in depth about that.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

run into them with an engineer. some also get perks for more bullets. also making them retreat and redeploy is a fast way to give them ammo and move them up.

there is a bit of depth with likes and such. if 2 people who like each other are next to each other they both fire and some get buffs or debuffs from others

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Lunethex posted:

Until you get Audrey, then personalities take a backseat to her best potential.

Elise and Jan both get that too. So any of those 3 are all good to take.

oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

Mushball posted:

Is there some sort of bandoleer I can buy for my snipers so they carry more than 3 bullets on their person? It's a minor gripe I have with those guys aside from being terrible shots in the early game.


I got a sort of Jagged Alliance style vibe from how your soldiers like or dislike one another which makes me wish this game was way more in depth about that.

Sniper ammo regenerates by one each turn or you can just have an engineer walk by.

InfinityComplex
Feb 5, 2011

Nothing better than swinging around a little girl like a flail.
Is there any way to get rid of the border for standard gameplay? No matter which of the VC games I play, that thing always bugs the hell out of me.

Mr. Fortitude posted:

line up your shots instead of praying the RNG doesn't hate you.

There's still RNG hate, no doubt about it.

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

Det_no posted:

It's hard to believe just how well optimized this poo poo is. It literally will run on loving anything, including my awful mobile intel HD 3000.

SEGA must have been taken over by wizards judging by their decision to port this and how well it works.

I can second this. The "Now Loading" screen can't even finish writing the word "Loading" and my computer's dead silent while running the game.

So, about that mission where you have to blow up the gigantic tank. That part's easy enough, but what am I supposed to do about the invincible anime girl that instantly kills whomever she wants? My tank can only act as a shield so well.

Dr Tasty
Jul 21, 2005

Hueheheh-and you GOT one

Suspicious Cook posted:

I can second this. The "Now Loading" screen can't even finish writing the word "Loading" and my computer's dead silent while running the game.

So, about that mission where you have to blow up the gigantic tank. That part's easy enough, but what am I supposed to do about the invincible anime girl that instantly kills whomever she wants? My tank can only act as a shield so well.

If I remember correctly, it's pretty easy to use that same gigantic tank and the surrounding terrain to block her. If she does not have LoS to her target she won't attack it.

Selenephos
Jul 9, 2010

InfinityComplex posted:

Is there any way to get rid of the border for standard gameplay? No matter which of the VC games I play, that thing always bugs the hell out of me.


There's still RNG hate, no doubt about it.

True, but not nearly to the extent of XCOM's "3 shots at 95% chance to hit oh wait you missed all three times" bullshit.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

Mr. Fortitude posted:

True, but not nearly to the extent of XCOM's "3 shots at 95% chance to hit oh wait you missed all three times" bullshit.

Yeah, VC is basically "If you fire, your bullets will all end up in this circle. Get the circle filled with bad guy? Every shot will hit. Plus it even tells you exactly how many times you need to shoot a guy to kill him, and it even changes when pointed at their heads, so you even know for sure if you've lined up a headshot or not.

Stick Figure Mafia
Dec 11, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0fpQ8f_fa0

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012


Find a way to mod this in and I'll buy the game a second time.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Is there any risk of screwing myself over by picking bad team members and then being stuck with them because the people I didn't use are too low level to catch up? I just got dumped into the team-building part and now I'm staring at this list of names, paralysed with indecision.

I'm definitely taking Vyse and Aika though, I mean come on there's no way I'm not taking those guys with me on an adventure

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
You level up entire classes rather than specific individuals so you should be ok.

Killing Vector
May 3, 2009

Suaimhneas posted:

Is there any risk of screwing myself over by picking bad team members and then being stuck with them because the people I didn't use are too low level to catch up? I just got dumped into the team-building part and now I'm staring at this list of names, paralysed with indecision.

You level up classes, not characters, so feel free to grab whoever you like and rotate people in and out of your squad at will.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Oh, well that's awesome :toot:

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

Mr. Fortitude posted:

The closest analogy I can think of is anime XCOM, except without the base management and you've got to line up your shots instead of praying the RNG doesn't hate you.

I feel like with the mechanics it's a little closer to Full Spectrum Warrior except you move units individually instead of in a squad.


This is probably the most accurate summation of the tone of the game.

Sushi in Yiddish fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Nov 14, 2014

Cake Attack
Mar 26, 2010

I just want to say the pig is cool and my friend

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?
The pig is great and anyone mad at it is mad about something that get's maybe 5 minutes of screentime tops.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I bought a PS3 for this game.

I bought it again on PC.

Someone stop me.

InfinityComplex
Feb 5, 2011

Nothing better than swinging around a little girl like a flail.

PerrineClostermann posted:

I bought a PS3 for this game.

I bought it again on PC.

Someone stop me.

No.
BUY IT AGAIN

Suspicious Cook
Oct 9, 2012

Onward to burgers!

Dr Tasty posted:

If I remember correctly, it's pretty easy to use that same gigantic tank and the surrounding terrain to block her. If she does not have LoS to her target she won't attack it.

I finally scraped by with nothing left but most of my tank and two lancers (I stopped the big tank from moving by letting it crush my treads, whoops) and somehow managed a B rank when demolishing the enemy earlier gave me a D. Apparently they knew it was a ridiculous mission, but it was also my fault for taking two snipers along. At least they cleared that mountain top early on without fuss.

Still, I got everyone out safely. No anime left behind! :patriot:

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete
I feel like I'm missing something obvious here, but how do you skip the opening cinematic? I'm mashing every button on my gamepad and key on my keyboard and nothing is happening.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

PerrineClostermann posted:

I bought a PS3 for this game.

I bought it again on PC.

Someone stop me.

I haven't bought it on PC (yet, maybe) but I pretty much bought a PS3 for VC and Demon's Souls. Worth every penny.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.

Sushi in Yiddish posted:

I feel like with the mechanics it's a little closer to Full Spectrum Warrior except you move units individually instead of in a squad.


This is probably the most accurate summation of the tone of the game.

When I streamed the game this was the first joke I made: Alicia shooting a guy in the back of the head 5 times with an oversized rifle. That was the first kill of the game.

And that joke stuck all the way to Anime World War 2: VC3 edition. Thank you for the picture.


Concordat posted:

I feel like I'm missing something obvious here, but how do you skip the opening cinematic? I'm mashing every button on my gamepad and key on my keyboard and nothing is happening.

You can't skip it the first time you watch it. If you have watched it, press Enter.

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Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete
I can't skip it every time I start the game.

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