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HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I'm actually pretty salty over there being a Los Angeles based Walking Dead spinoff. Atlanta and Georgia as a whole gets so little love from any media, and when we finally get something that's set in my home city and state, motherfucking LA swoops in basically puts up a neon sign going "HERE'S A MORE RECOGNIZABLE CITY, COME LOOK AT THE ZOMBIE CELEBS". Let Atlanta have some popularity of its own, goddamn it.

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HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
You know, this episode wasn't all that bad because I'm not a loving sperglord who is incapable of suspension of disbelief in a zombie show. Seriously people, it's a loving pulp tv show about zombies, just turn your brains off for 45 minutes and just watch it. It doesn't need super in depth analysis because this show is not Breaking Bad and never claimed to be.

My thoughts on the episode:

- I thought the despondency and depression angle is a good one. The group has had two really traumatic experiences (on top of the survival situation being intensely traumatic to begin with) back to back. They need time to work through the emotional and mental issues caused by it. They need time to talk about their losses and experience the sadness and depression caused by losing two important group members (important in the sense of the characters, not the show itself). I was totally okay with the irrationality being displayed because as much as we the viewers may be, the show characters are not beep boop robots with no emotional attachments.

- The barn scene was confusing, but I enjoyed it. I wasn't sure whether or not it was a dream sequence, but maybe it'll get answered at some point. If it doesn't, it's not the end of the world because I still got some very good moments of tension and anxiety out of wondering whether the doors would hold or whether someone would get bitten through the gap. I also liked Darryl's "Oh gently caress oh gently caress oh gently caress" reaction when he tightened the chains keeping the door closed. The aftermath the next morning was pretty bizarre, because I didn't know what happened. I lived in the South and recognize tornado clouds, but it was still really strange to see all the busted pine trees and such. The addition of a pine tree hitting a section of the barn would've been nice, but whatever, this is the show that had the group lowering Glenn into a well to act as zombie bait so gently caress it.

- I loved the addition of humanity's natural enemies - hunger and thirst. This group hasn't been shown to really experience those dangers since they have several very experienced trackers/scavengers and people with forestry skills that can reliably find food and water. I like how the show nullified those skills by placing a natural obstacle (drought) that added a lot of thematic tension and it gave the episode a very real sense of urgency and danger despite the characters seemingly plodding around aimlessly towards DC.

- I liked the reaction of Abraham towards Eugene when Eugene tried drinking the water. It makes me want the show to further explore the group's dynamics towards Eugene and how they're dealing with him in the aftermath of Eugene's revelation that the cure was a lie. We haven't really seen anyone interact with him since Abraham beat him senseless in front of the herd; I want to see if they're acting more guarded around him, or treating him like poo poo or something. Abraham possibly saving Eugene from the poisoned water was a good step towards showing the audience that even if the group has problems with each other, they're still in it together and they look out for each other. Whether or not the group likes Eugene anymore at this point (or if they ever have, really), he's still "one of them" and they'll protect each other.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

fleshweasel posted:

Turn your brain off guys *writes a giant dumb post*

No guys I demand logical consistency and rational actions in a show about zom FARRRRRRRRRRRRT

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I'd actually love for the zombie apocalypse to be the result of an angry, capricious Old Testament God because at that point, there is literally no hope for anyone still left alive.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I'm betting Alexandria will be a wasteland by the season finale at the very least. They've almost hit parity with the comics (I think maybe one major arc away at the moment?) so they're going to need to either slow down and let Kirkman write some more material or go completely off the rails (as opposed to mostly off the rails) and do their own thing with no guidelines from the comics at this point.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

moths posted:

True, but he said it was hinted at this season which is what really got my attention.

I think it was the W that was seen carved into some walker heads earlier this season.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Hahaha Kirkman didn't know the Center for Disease Control was a real thing? Hasn't he heard at some point about how the CDC contains smallpox and ebola and all kinds of other nasty poo poo? Has he ever been to Atlanta?? I find it really hard to believe that he did such a spot-on job of utilizing Atlanta in the comics without going there for research or having friends from there or something because I assure you, every one of the 5 million people in Atlanta know about the CDC because it's kind of a big deal.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Actually, with all the Wire alumni, I'm going the zombie cause flashback has McNulty screwing something up and asking "The gently caress did I do?" When everyone starts giving him the stink eye.

The last thing you hear when Baltimore is overrun is a loud SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIITTT

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Jakcson posted:

Pfffft... there's always the hardcore porn industry.

And McDonald's.

She's too old for the porn industry, by the time the women are in their mid 20s they're already washed up and being replaced by starry eyed slutty 18 year olds.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
The walkers have been getting more and more mushy/slow ever since the outbreak. Their decomposition has slowed significantly, but it's still happening and they will continue to deteriorate.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
With a cast this large, it's time to start the culling. Remember the Atlanta camp? 14 people or so killed off in one scene.

Fix the budget. Kill the extras. Ricktatorship 2016.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
People who complain about Alexandria being boring are in for such a treat :allears:

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
This was probably the best episode this season. I totally wasn't expecting Noah to become a lunch buffet and goddrat that was brutal.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I want the Ricktatorship to show these pissant Alexandrians how to run a proper settlement. The prison was doing loving fantastic (aside from natural causes like the flu, and even then that was properly handled with quarantine and elimination of possible viral sources like the pigs) until they came up against a goddamn tank. Rick should have had Sasha remove the suppressor from that rifle or the show have her take it off herself (I know he had no idea she was plinking walkers, but bear with me) to let the gunshots punctuate Rick's crazy speech about how dangerous the world is out there and how if they want to survive, they need to :getin:

Alternatively, instead of going Full Shane, just have Rick scream "HE BEATS HIS WIFE UNCONSCIOUS" over and over again until they get it.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Reivur posted:

My only blah @ the whole Wife Beating thing is the complete lack of "Oh she fell down some stairs" "Oh that clutz tripped into the doorknob lol" bruises on her. I'm aware they can be hidden or clothed, but if she's being savagely beaten to the point of unconsciousness you'd think there'd be just a little something visible. Especially when they have everyone all grimy and bruised all the time, but in her case she's pristine and scarless.

That said I love that when he was beating down Pete he shoved CORRRRRRRRRAL away rough as hell. If anything that kind of surprised me more than anything, but then I read the comics. I can't really think of a time Rick's ever shoved Carl aside like that in either forms of media. Usually if anything Carl's the compass he uses to measure whether he's getting jaded, or if Carl is becoming a little poo poo, and then proceeds to reign himself or Carl back and try to get everything under control/balanced again.

My girlfriend is a seriously clumsy person and manages to injure/bruise herself almost once a week. She has hit her head on car doors, somehow injured herself with a washcloth, cut her hand open with a food processor blade, has a myriad of bruises on her legs and such. I worry constantly that people are going to think I'm a woman beater but it really is just that she's klutzy as all hell :(


GrAviTy84 posted:

The prison post Woodbury was no longer a ricktatorship, it was a democracy. That was the big hooplah before the coup, that people cant do it alone anymore, that they would all vote.

True, but I like to think that Rick has learned how to be an effective totalitarian leader (since even authoritarians have advisers!) and could definitely handle Alexandria. At the very least those people need to be armed and trained with their seemingly limitless supply of ammunition.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I'm actually super excited for the spin-off series. My favorite part of apocalyptic fiction is the very beginning, when everything is just going to poo poo. The survival part is fun and all, but I absolutely love for the medium to explore the breakdown in society with the ensuing panic and inevitable failed government response. Setting it in LA will be a fun way to see how the outbreak spreads through the sprawl, pushing the organized resistance further and further back.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
That was a great finale. I loved seeing more of The Wolves and I was legitimately worried about how Daryl was going to get out of that car situation with Aaron. I have mixed feelings on Carol. I understand her motivation for wanting to be a naive housewife in front of these clueless people, but I think I'm bothered by it because Carol is a legitimate stone cold badass and I feel that she should display that and show the Alexandrians that women can survive in the wild too, as long as they have the right mindset.

I wanted Glenn to off Nick. Nick's tried to kill him what, three times now? Glenn's going to pay for helping Nick back to safety because I'm betting that Nick will try again and this time he'll get a lot closer to succeeding than just hitting Glenn in the shoulder and leaving him for walkers. Comic spoilers: I know all about Negan and Lucille and that's how I'm really hoping Glenn will die

Goddamn I still want Rick to tell these people everything about this vast ocean of poo poo that they know nothing about. After dumping a walker on their bonfire, it would've been the perfect time to go "Now listen here you weak bastards. In the last two years, I've seen some serious poo poo. A herd of walkers hundreds deep took over a farm and killed almost everyone on it. Then we were separated and on the run for the entire winter before finding a prison that was full of walkers. We took the prison and cleared it out, and then discovered a nearby town that was run by a homicidal, power tripping maniac. He attacked us, we defended ourselves and fought back, and he returned with an army and a goddamn tank and destroyed the three fences and concrete walls of the prison. Then we were dispersed again and came across a town filled with cannibals, who were actively slaughtering people in front of a blood trough and hanging the corpses to cut meat off of, blew them up with a propane tank and let a horde in to finish the job, and then were running for months with no food and no water until we found you. THAT is the world of poo poo you are up against."

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Wait a minute, what happened on the show? It went from Rick's group in the prison and when I started the next episode suddenly they're surrounded by a bunch of people in a normal looking town? Where'd the prison go? Who are these black people that weren't with Rick's group before? What the hell is happening

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
I thought the note added a lot to the scene, kind of a sardonic "Well we wouldn't be in this bullshit if we'd bothered to do a basic scavenging thing like check the loving car for supplies first since that's what we're doing at this location right now" type of thing. You can see it in Daryl's expression that he realized they just made a serious amateur move.

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HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

Timeless Appeal posted:

I actually disagree. Night of the Living Dead is really clear that all the recently dead are being reanimated. Then there is the girl who was bit and was slowly dying. Dawn of the Dead wasn't very direct with all recently dead coming back, but laid it pretty hard on the bites being deadly.

It still makes sense that the bites don't turn you, they just kill you. A living person's mouth is filled with all kinds of nasty bacteria that will gently caress you up. Now add in that the biter is a rotting corpse being consumed by bacteria and the bites they dish out are often massive chunks. You're super hosed from infection if that's the case, and that's what ends up killing you.

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