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BigPaddy posted:Guys I make good games ok just look at Psychonaughts! The problem is it feels kind of bolted on to the base hack and slash stuff, yeah. Not everything gels as smoothly as it should.
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I had to google this spacebase thing everyone is talking about, I can see why people are hesitant.Endorph posted:To be fair an RTS where you're on the ground with the troops is a neat idea, and has been done a few times beforehand: Pikmin, and, uh, some PC game that I can't remember the name of where you were being jerked around by like eight different gods. I thought it was ok, I just made big armies, pointed them in a direction then used double teams and the face melter to clear out groups of enemies. I was super bad at killing enemy generals though.
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Endorph posted:To be fair an RTS where you're on the ground with the troops is a neat idea, and has been done a few times beforehand: Pikmin, and, uh, some PC game that I can't remember the name of where you were being jerked around by like eight different gods. The PC game is called Sacrifice if I recall correctly. They should use some of this Kickstarter money to hire some artists, regardless of paedophile babies this game looks ugly as sin, and mostly because of art direction.
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Endorph posted:To be fair an RTS where you're on the ground with the troops is a neat idea, and has been done a few times beforehand: Pikmin, and, uh, some PC game that I can't remember the name of where you were being jerked around by like eight different gods. sacrifice, which is one of the greatest games ever made. rip shiny entertainment
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Sacrifice owns, the voice acting owns, Stratos owns (since it's Tim Curry, who owns).
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Arnold of Soissons posted:"It'll be finished when 
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Yeah, can this thread be about Sacrifice instead? For one thing it actually exists.
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To be fair I think that this is more brad mier's project than tim's and it was kickstarted right after broken age. I haven't played the beta yet so color me cautiously optimistic.
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DrManiac posted:To be fair I think that this is more brad mier's project than tim's and it was kickstarted right after broken age. I haven't played the beta yet so color me cautiously optimistic.
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Sacrifice exists, Battlezone II especially was quite a lot like Brutal Legend but better.
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Endorph posted:Yeah, can this thread be about Sacrifice instead? For one thing it actually exists. Tell me about Sacrifice. Does it hold up?
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Bogart posted:Tell me about Sacrifice. Does it hold up?
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Endorph posted:Yeah, can this thread be about Sacrifice instead?
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I do hope someone who will actually finish it makes a CKII XCOM hybrid one day
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Bogart posted:Tell me about Sacrifice. Does it hold up?
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The game is quite good but the XCOM comparison is extremely flattering, MC has nothing like the same depth as XCOM. I really like the eugenics and random characters aspect, without which this game would just be a generic TRPG. I love this kind of random generation aspect in games where factors outside your control influence the tools you have to work with, like football manager's regens or the random level ups in blood bowl or XCOM. The heredity aspect enhances that further and makes the strategic layer pretty intriguing if only for the emergent story of your bloodlines. One complaint is I really wish your heroes got more action in a single lifetime. You can have a fantastic character with great attributes pop up then fight once or twice before dying of old age, so you never really develop an emotional attachment to individuals like you would in the aforementioned games. It reminds me more of the mindfuckingly lovely ROME 2 Total War where your heroes have levels and skill trees and so on but die of old age so rapidly that they never get into a groove and feel like a major part of your gameplan. The game has potential but a XCOM Long War style mod would enhance the game greatly. A related issue is that too much of your heroes' experience level is just stacking experience bonuses from when they were a child, rather than what you earn in battle. It's the difference between the attachment you feel to something you're given rather than something you've earned.
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Dre2Dee2 posted:*glances at Mighty No. 9* I wonder if people wound give Double Fine 190,000 dollars for one extra boss battle.
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This is the ugliest videogame I've seen in a very long time. That isn't hyperbole, it really isn't - the screenshots on the steam page actually make me grimace in pain at how unappealing and grating the entire game looks. Nowadays I know better than to kickstart a game that isn't in a near-finished state where you can see how it looks and plays, but if I had been suckered into backing this... Just, good god. I would be so furious.
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Bogart posted:Tell me about Sacrifice. Does it hold up? its good but hard and doesn't really teach you much how to play (so its an old game). its also cheap and if you wait for a bit it might be 1 buck on steam again
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MrBims posted:This is the ugliest videogame I've seen in a very long time. That isn't hyperbole, it really isn't - the screenshots on the steam page actually make me grimace in pain at how unappealing and grating the entire game looks. Nowadays I know better than to kickstart a game that isn't in a near-finished state where you can see how it looks and plays, but if I had been suckered into backing this... Just, good god. I would be so furious. I quite like it  . I didn't back the kickstarter so I got it on steam for £17.49 and I'd say it's more than met my expectations, though on steam you can obviously get much bigger games for lesser prices. The graphics are fine for me, they're intended to be highly stylised while allowing for resemblance across a family. It reminds me of World of Warcraft graphics in that they are basic without being ugly. You disagree, c'est la vie.
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Oh god help me. I'm in the need for fantasy X-Com and my only other option is Natural Doctrine.
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When house Conman failed to produce an heir, in the dwindling days of the keep they adopted a young baby boy found on the battlefield Anane. Sadly, the regent passed away and less than a year later...  Anane's young life was marked with tragedy as his loving and supporting wife passed away, the loss of his birth parents, adopted parents and wife was more than any four year old should bear. Anane found solace in his many adopted children two of which were one year younger than him. He went on to father many more heroes. At one point 80% of the nations forces had originated from his loins. Since relic discovery is based on weapon usage, we now have 3 crossbow based relics and zero of any other kind.  Anone currently resides in Blazinglion keep with his 4th wife who is 22 years of age.  trashcangammy posted:You can have a fantastic character with great attributes pop up then fight once or twice before dying of old age, so you never really develop an emotional attachment to individuals like you would in the aforementioned games. I'm gonna win this war for baby regent.  Also a 19 year old warrior got disillusioned since I didn't send him out to battle, moaning about his life purpose. The last cadence attack happened when he 11, so when he asked to go on a five year trip discover himself I said yes (also his traits were craaaap) he came back disillusioned after a failed string of businesses and marriages with a depressed personality trait and reduced xp.
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Davincie posted:its good but hard and doesn't really teach you much how to play (so its an old game). its also cheap and if you wait for a bit it might be 1 buck on steam again GoG.com. http://www.gog.com/game/sacrifice
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lol if you give money to doublefine
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:At one point 80% of the nations forces had originated from his loins. What an incredible set of stanky old loins.
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trashcangammy posted:I quite like it "Stylised" Your comparison to WoW's graphics is apt however, Massive Chalice does resemble a game made ten years ago.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:I do hope someone who will actually finish it makes a CKII XCOM hybrid one day I'd get behind that.
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Chomp8645 posted:"Stylised" Yes. Yes it does. Zinger, bro.
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I was pretty interested right up until you mentioned Double Fine OP, at which point I pitied you because in about 11 months you'll be coming back to this thread to post about your abandonware  Double Fine is a great example of why some developers really really need a publisher.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:I was pretty interested right up until you mentioned Double Fine OP, at which point I pitied you because in about 11 months you'll be coming back to this thread to post about your abandonware I paid fifteen bucks for it and I got to make Lord Frey, I hope they improve the graphics, but if they don't I'll be ok. What you should be pitying me over is a torn butt muscle I have, that's what sucks in my life right now.
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This is a really fun game in its current state IMO. I'm not really attached to my heroes, but I am really attached to my noble houses. I have 3 houses that are really strong right now, and I always end up picking a couple of offspring to shower with relics and bring into battle with me. The rest end up helping with research or marrying into other houses. My only real complaint at this point is depth in the tactical layer. I always run 3 hunters 2 caberjacks. The hunters output shitloads of damage and the caberjacks are basically bodyguards. Alchemists are sort of useless, but Brad and co. seem to agree, they're looking for ways to make the alchemist worthwhile. Everyone has reason to poo poo on a DF kickstarter project, but this game's already really engrossing, don't let "DF kickstarter" turn you off.
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I finally have a hero with the quick witted trait and it's the very first grandchild of the Baby Regent! 
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jBrereton posted:Sacrifice exists, Battlezone II especially was quite a lot like Brutal Legend but better. Oh man, I loved Battlezone 2. It really did manage to combine fighting and RTS gameplay in an enjoyable way. Also, you can get out of your vehicle, snipe the pilot out of an enemy mech, and then hijack the thing as the opening volley to your wave of troops coming over the hill. What's not to love?
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Double Fine is a great example of why some developers really really need a publisher. And yeah this game sounds like something I'd want to play, but...
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Eonwe posted:lol wow Double fine has some balls Is it actually ballsy if they know that dumb idiot nerds will throw money at them no matter what?
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Slime posted:Is it actually ballsy if they know that dumb idiot nerds will throw money at them no matter what? yeah, good point I guess
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I have found a red headed black champion. Maybe when people made custom houses they had settings for what the family looked like and hardly anyone chose a black family. Spiderdrake posted:Yeah, Double Fine is a great example of how you can look at a press quote like five years later and suddenly realize Kotick was right and sometimes publishers are right and feel kinda icky. It's ok man, just wait until it's finished and some reviews are out on the final product, then make a decision on it. I kickstarted it so I have early access, might as well play it and make a thread for what I think is a fun game.
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:I finally have a hero with the quick witted trait and it's the very first grandchild of the Baby Regent! Does the game...go anywhere? Or are you just fostering and rearing babies to be warriors forever unto eternity?
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