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ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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If we let 12 year olds consent to murder we obviously should let 14 year olds consent to sex.

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ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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She was too young to consent but did actively pursue the relationship which is where he gets charged with rape and the school couldn't have really done much to prevent it. It doesn't really seem like the school is trying to label the student as a slut so much as it's saying that they shouldn't be held responsible for what she (and the teacher) willfully did off school grounds. I don't really see how that's unreasonable.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Apthous posted:

The school district's priority should be educating kids and making sure they are not harmed in the process. Allowing their lawyers to call a 14 year old who was raped by one of their teachers a whore and then not apologizing afterwords is the complete antithesis of everything they should be about.
I didn't read the full article but did they actually call her a whore or a slut or did they just say that she was a willing participant? It's really not that outrageous of an idea to acknowledge teenagers have sex drives before they can legally consent. The teacher who statutory raped her is still going to jail, the school district really doesn't seem like it should be culpable.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Well I controlled f and searched for whore and slut in the article and came up empty. Unless they're using old timey slurs like strumpet then I think at no point did the lawyers call a 14 year old girl a slut. Instead it seems like Apthous just made the connection between "she willingly pursued a sexual relationship" and "she's a slut" and then projected their view on everyone else.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
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Cardiovorax posted:

It's a hidden insult and trying to paint the girl as not deserving of pity. Nobody except you is willing to pretend that this is not a common and well-known strategy to discredit rape victims.
Yeah in cases where it was non-consensual courts often bring up sexual history in an attempt to prove the encounter might have been consensual and that's obviously an attempt to slut shame. In cases like this where it was statutory rape and everyone involve agreed to it (they just couldn't legally consent) it seems like an entirely fair thing to bring up in defense of the school. Because the student was pursuing it from their end and literally lied to their family to meet up with the teacher, there's very little the school could be seen as even negligent for. If on the other hand they had a teacher that just raped kids in the classroom or something, you could make the case that the school should have been more diligent in finding/preventing that sort of thing. That she helped make it more difficult to catch the teacher is an entirely valid point for the school's lawyers to make.

Saying that was a willing participant in the encounter when she was in fact a willing participant is not slut shaming and it's a huge stretch to read it like that.

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