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quote:Bzzt. Nice try. Did you read this post until you got to a personal trigger, or are you just a good guesser and tl;dred? 2nd ed. was obviously an attempt to sanitize the game of some of the essential - but weird - origins of the wargame-turned-rpg. The demonology was cartoonized away from its historic/mythological origins, likelihood of death was statistically curbed, and 2nd ed. was a much more publically palatable-though also less memorable for the players-game. Don't be stupid. Don't post anyone's personal information. Do get people mad. Go. New rule since I'm the OP: No more asking about Mikan. She was harassed out of the hobby by Zak S and his cronies. Feel free to talk about Zak S and his abusive bullshit, just leave her alone. Arivia fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Dec 31, 2014 |
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I found an almost RPGSiteian abuse of 3.5 mechanics.Brian Ballsun-Stanton posted:Combine the Necrotic Cyst line of spells with Hindsight. Investing in items of necrotic cyst, necrotic scrying, and one or two hideously expensive polished steel and diamond blocks (nothing breakable, mind you) of hindsight would make any rather evil but almost annoyingly hard to corrupt police force proud. tl;dr: Use necromancy, divination, and mind control to create an almost perfect police state.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 01:56 |
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Hmm. That post about necrotic cysts and mind control is going to be saved if the players IMC ever make it to Evil Federation Ruled By Aboleths.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 18:01 |
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Zemyla posted:tl;dr: Use necromancy, divination, and mind control to create an almost perfect police state. The sad thing is there are some good ideas in that monument of text. Being an evil thought policeman is cool and interesting. But if nothing ever loving happens because everything's accounted for, that's a long game of sitting with your thumb up your rear end. And you'd think that in D&D there are still a ton of ways to break it in half. Maybe the Old God you're getting your powers from decides your brains look delicious today. Or dragons attack and well, all your spying on salt peddlers is useless now. Though I get the feeling that all that stuff would get written out of anything this guy runs.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 18:34 |
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Bendigeidfran posted:The sad thing is there are some good ideas in that monument of text. Being an evil thought policeman is cool and interesting. But if nothing ever loving happens because everything's accounted for, that's a long game of sitting with your thumb up your rear end. Good news! He's written about ways to defeat this magical surveillance state. The simplest way is for one of the triumverate to be loving around with the other two.
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# ? Nov 24, 2014 23:52 |
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John Wick posted:Okay, one last time. He's like if Curb Your Enthusiasm existed in real life.
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# ? Nov 28, 2014 07:34 |
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Pundowski posted:"Queering" D&D is like "queering" basketball, or bridge. It either can't be done, or can only be done by making something so radically different from what is presently called 'basketball' or 'bridge' that it would no longer be recognizable as such.
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# ? Nov 29, 2014 20:12 |
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What in the Sam Hill is this guy talkign about.
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# ? Nov 29, 2014 21:48 |
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Wikipedia posted:Queering is an interpretive method used in historical or literary study. It is based on the re-appropriated term "queer", used for LGBT issues, but used as a verb. "Queering" means to reevaluate or reinterpret a work with an eye to sexual orientation and/or to gender, by applying queer theory. Basically, if you were to examine the traditional D&D trope of the drow being evil black-skinned people led by women, and discuss that maybe that's the stereotype surface people have, and why would that stereotype arise; do they feel threatened by women leaders, that could be queering D&D.
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 04:25 |
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Zoq-Fot-Pik posted:What in the Sam Hill is this guy talkign about. May not be the what he's saying exactly, but it's basically the point he's trying to make.
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 04:44 |
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This is absolutely loving hilarious. "You know what ruined gaming? Girl cooties."
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 04:57 |
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The struggle is real.
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 04:59 |
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The last line is my favorite. Oh no, the game is popular. God help us all.
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 05:56 |
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Asimo posted:This is absolutely loving hilarious. "Look at all those assholes just having fun and socializing! It's not about the +5 knife anymore, Bob! We MUST AWAY!"
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 05:58 |
"Females join" Dun dun DUN!
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 10:19 |
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Darth Various posted:"Females join" I was going to object (I'm working hard on being unlikeable), but then I read the "Females join" part... Not that the whole poorly drawn thing wasn't bullshit to begin with. DnD wasn't some sort of mystical hobby only for Gygax and his BFFs. If it was, he wouldn't have published for money. Now, casuals and casualization, I have an axe to grind with them... but mostly about videogames.
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 12:27 |
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MizPiz posted:
Haha the best part is when the green and brown dudes ditch the lame cards for blunts and cans.
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# ? Nov 30, 2014 13:59 |
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I especially like that they used cards for their terrible propaganda. E:Holy poo poo. If that's Magic, then the stick figures are drinking energy drinks and chatting with each other over a game of cards. That's what they're complaining about. Big Hubris fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Traditional Games > Grognards.txt: Females join
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 00:12 |
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How dare they use the social occasion to socialize!
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 00:44 |
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are they playing magic the gathering or something?
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 00:53 |
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inklesspen posted:Basically, if you were to examine the traditional D&D trope of the drow being evil black-skinned people led by women, and discuss that maybe that's the stereotype surface people have, and why would that stereotype arise; do they feel threatened by women leaders, that could be queering D&D. It's funny, because Pundit and Avery Mcdaldno might actually agree on queering RPGs demanding the creation of something near-unrecognizable. One type of queering that I've heard her talk about is a pretty fundamental re-examination of the assumptions of tabletop RPGs, stripping away the 'a small team of enlightened heroes violently overcome The Enemy and assert the correctness of their world-view by use of force" core that's the basis of the vast majority of tabletop RPGs and replacing it with something more in line with the experiences of queer individuals. In other words, even something like Exalted might have a bunch of iconic queer characters, but if it's ultimately about combat and the use of force (either violent or social, in Exalted's case) then it's still drawing from a tradition of patriarchal colonialism.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:How dare they use the social occasion to socialize! The opposite would be a dude joining a book club or something (I'm not very good at stereotyping female social activities) to pick up chicks and skipping on reading books, analysis and talking about books. Well, that's what the author has in mind... and that would lead to sorority members joining in to make fun of the other women and to pick up dudes. Of course, that doesn't happen and women definitely don't join games for attention. They also want some bit of that 'a small team of enlightened heroes violently overcome The Enemy and assert the correctness of their world-view by use of force', 'cos it's fun. Also, you can overcome the queering conlfict of everything you do being racist/patriarchist/colonialist by rolling for every aspect of the world, thus randomly generating a society... or by not caring.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 04:41 |
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OtspIII posted:It's funny, because Pundit and Avery Mcdaldno might actually agree on queering RPGs demanding the creation of something near-unrecognizable. One type of queering that I've heard her talk about is a pretty fundamental re-examination of the assumptions of tabletop RPGs, stripping away the 'a small team of enlightened heroes violently overcome The Enemy and assert the correctness of their world-view by use of force" core that's the basis of the vast majority of tabletop RPGs and replacing it with something more in line with the experiences of queer individuals. In other words, even something like Exalted might have a bunch of iconic queer characters, but if it's ultimately about combat and the use of force (either violent or social, in Exalted's case) then it's still drawing from a tradition of patriarchal colonialism. The existence of Fantasy Friends shows it's possible to dramatically reconsider the PCs' priorities while still having a recognizable fantasy world. Likewise, Quinn Murphy's done some great work reexamining the drow. inklesspen fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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JcDent posted:The opposite would be a dude joining a book club or something (I'm not very good at stereotyping female social activities) to pick up chicks and skipping on reading books, analysis and talking about books. Well, that's what the author has in mind... and that would lead to sorority members joining in to make fun of the other women and to pick up dudes. Of course, that doesn't happen and women definitely don't join games for attention. They also want some bit of that 'a small team of enlightened heroes violently overcome The Enemy and assert the correctness of their world-view by use of force', 'cos it's fun. Good lord, I can't tell whether this post is earnest grog or a parody.
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# ? Dec 1, 2014 12:30 |
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Nancy_Noxious posted:Good lord, I can't tell whether this post is earnest grog or a parody. I really can't explain in human words why I wrote that. I do believe that the person who made the "this is how hobby goes to poo poo" comic is totally wrong, but... I'm sorry, I'm not really good about gender issues.
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I hate this drat feat [Crossbow Expert]. Honestly, I have no problem with the way it works mechanically, but it breaks immersion for me. The fastest anyone has ever shot a military-grade crossbow is once every 30 seconds. This feat allows you to conceivably fire eight times in six seconds. You essentially gain the ability to move like Quicksilver in DoFP, but only when reloading crossbows. I have forbidden this usage of it at my table without crafting a mechanical automatic crossbow.
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quote:And if you take the Crossbow Expert feat, you can ignore the loading property on crossbows. Don't get the key word "loading" confused with the general term like I've seen people around here do before: The crossbow still needs to be reloaded and requires ammo (I can't believe I've gotten in debates about this before lol)! That means you can fire a crossbow as many times as class features, etc. allow just like a bow as EdgeOfDreams explained, but you still need to provide ammo and have a hand free to reload (although there is nothing written in the rules that specifically states you need a hand free to reload, I think it's so obvious that it doesn't need to be stated, just as it doesn't state that you need a hand free to nock an arrow when firing a bow). quote:Ignoring the fact that Mearls and the dev team's off the cuff rulings have frequently been inconsistent and straight up wrong before, I would only allow it if they had a magical or mechanical device that allowed it as you say. I wouldn't just "imagine" it though since such a thing would be quite costly. Same guy: quote:The flexibility lies in the fact that multiple types of characters can take advantage of [Dueling Fighting Style], a sword and shield fighter or a one handed fencer. By denying one of those options you are removing the flexibility. But like you say, that's your choice. Personally I don't like to remove basic options from the game and I don't see that as a way of taking advantage of the type of flexibility you are talking about (bending rules, creating rules, etc.)
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I have no idea what it is about that feat that makes so many grogs lose their loving minds.quote:Why is it that you like so many other people miss-construes the timing of when you load (during the attack) as the method, when it is just the timing. And the feat only means you can load more then once, again having nothing to do with the method which is not mentioned. **link is made to a question, "how do you load a crossbow if both your hands are full?" Answer is... What do you do here? Well, double-down, of course. quote:Oh so juggling doesn't take a skill check? Oh wait... quote:The designers response was "you juggle your gear". So if I accept that is valid then I must accept that juggling does not require any skill checks.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 07:34 |
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I have no idea why I keep clicking on grog threads. They're entertaining but simultaneously horribly depressing and depressingly horrifying. They're like the personification of That said...while I think the man couldn't write a decent ruleset to save his life, I kind of like Mearls' tweets. I imagine him muttering "...goddamn nerds" after each one and it makes them so much better.
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Ryoshi posted:I have no idea why I keep clicking on grog threads. They're entertaining but simultaneously horribly depressing and depressingly horrifying. if you want to see the most negative conversation and frothing at the mouth about anything mearls says, imagined or otherwise check out the thread on this forum http://bit.ly/12mNorM. i've never seen people circlejerk more on being outraged other than conservative talk radio id c/p that whole thing into here if i had the patience
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 14:05 |
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Re crossbows: someone oughta read Warren Ellis's Crécy. In addition to being hella , it happens to show exactly why crossbowmen were so dangerous, the Pope banned their use in wars against other Christians. (They knew the reloading thing was a weakness. And, lo and behold, they applied their brains to it and came up with a solution.)
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inklesspen posted:Re crossbows: someone oughta read Warren Ellis's Crécy. In addition to being hella , it happens to show exactly why crossbowmen were so dangerous, the Pope banned their use in wars against other Christians. (They knew the reloading thing was a weakness. And, lo and behold, they applied their brains to it and came up with a solution.) Wasn't Crecy a bow uber alles battle?
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dwarf74 posted:I hate this drat feat [Crossbow Expert]. Honestly, I have no problem with the way it works mechanically, but it breaks immersion for me. The fastest anyone has ever shot a military-grade crossbow is once every 30 seconds. This feat allows you to conceivably fire eight times in six seconds. You essentially gain the ability to move like Quicksilver in DoFP, but only when reloading crossbows. Man I love the posts where a nerd knows one thing about history or physics so it breaks their versimilitude. "Falling damage maxes at 10d6 meaning a fighter above a certain level is simply never going to die for a fall of any height whatsoever? That's fine but no one better fire a crossbow faster than on that episode of Medieval Warfare I saw one time."
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JcDent posted:Wasn't Crecy a bow uber alles battle? Yep. Crossbowmen were great but not as great as longbowmen, and there were a couple of key mistakes the French made. (Their crossbowmen were hired mercenaries.) They fought shortly after a rainstorm (bows could easily be unstrung and the strings kept dry, but not so for the crossbows) and screwed up their logistics train (the crossbowmen used shields to duck behind while reloading; these shields were stuck at the back of the train). Then when the crossbows had failed to produce the expected result, the French cavalry attacked their mercenaries while they were trying to retreat. The thing about crossbows, though, is they didn't require anywhere near as much training as the longbow. That's what made them truly devastating; if you got the logistics right, you could field thousands of poorly-trained conscript soldiers and they would still be a deadly force.
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# ? Dec 3, 2014 18:39 |
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This seems quite self-explanatory. Reminds me of the horror of FATAL.
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DrPossum posted:if you want to see the most negative conversation and frothing at the mouth about anything mearls says, imagined or otherwise check out the thread on this forum http://bit.ly/12mNorM. i've never seen people circlejerk more on being outraged other than conservative talk radio its us we are the grognards etc
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ascendance posted:This seems quite self-explanatory. Reminds me of the horror of FATAL. Shit_that_didnt_happen_even_in_a_game.txt
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Maxwell Lord posted:Shit_that_didnt_happen_even_in_a_game.txt I want to say this but I knew some guys who ran games for years (some of them even once posted on these hallowed forums) that had poo poo of this caliber happen basically every session. It didn't help that one of them studied German culture and literature extensively and so was obsessed with running D&D games that always devolved into explorations of nihilism and the nature of good and evil. There was a campaign where two of the players managed to successfully generate 3.5 characters who were Power Rangers and it took the DM ~3 sessions to notice it.
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El Estrago Bonito posted:I want to say this but I knew some guys who ran games for years (some of them even once posted on these hallowed forums) that had poo poo of this caliber happen basically every session. It didn't help that one of them studied German culture and literature extensively and so was obsessed with running D&D games that always devolved into explorations of nihilism and the nature of good and evil. There was a campaign where two of the players managed to successfully generate 3.5 characters who were Power Rangers and it took the DM ~3 sessions to notice it. I feel there is a leap of logic in the above. Why would a game the focuses on the exploration of nihilism and the nature of good and evil lead to making power rangers as PCs and other poo poo of "halfling-hiding-in-whore's rear end" caliber?
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