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Viggen posted:Its still a Soul. the new ones are very nice inside and are very practical 
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Viggen posted:Its still a Soul. The (first gen) Soul is a car that I really should like but just do not. It's got the quirkiness like a Nissan Cube or a Honda Element (two cars I love for their styling), it drives better than both of those cars, there's partsbin upgrade options out the wazoo from the rest of the Kia FWD family, and it has better engine options with more power. But I just hate the loving things, maybe because the owners are very obviously the same ones who bought PT Cruisers.
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Dec 23, 2014 00:52
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You know what really amuses me? My Forester has way more headroom than my late model XJ, it's just strange. Early model XJs have more room than the late models (due to seat changes over the years) and MJs have even more than either, but the forester has a good 4 inches of space over my head, something that I've never experienced except in large trucks. Of course, it has absolutely no foot room, and I have size 14 feet, so things were a bit sketchy when clutching in the first few days I drove it with steeltoes on, but everything's fine now that I'm used to it.
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Dec 23, 2014 02:45
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6'2 drive a Mk 2 Scirocco Its okay so long as you sit with with your legs spread way out out, there's no way I'd get my legs under that steering wheel. For a while I flirted with a go-kart sized steering wheel but lack of power steering, aggressive summer tires and autocross caused me to pull a muscle in my arm. Bolted the regular steering wheel back in pretty quickly after that.
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Dec 23, 2014 03:54
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kill me now posted:the new ones are very nice inside and are very practical The outside is still, uh.. a Soul. Seat Safety Switch posted:But I just hate the loving things, maybe because the owners are very obviously the same ones who bought PT Cruisers. I think most of those folks went to the Sebring (convertible). From PT to a Soul? Maybe if they are going through a major mid-life crisis. kastein posted:My Forester has way more headroom than my late model XJ, it's just strange. Early model XJs have more room than the late models (due to seat changes over the years) and MJs have even more than either, but the forester has a good 4 inches of space over my head, something that I've never experienced except in large trucks. I've got the same issue with first gen 9-5s vs LG 9-5s (excluding the NG last-produced 9-5). The chassis is mostly the same, but the feeping creatures have really made the passenger compartment smaller. There is a noticable shift of space that I can't have both at exactly the same seat settings, because I'll bash my knees.
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Dec 23, 2014 04:23
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Seat Safety Switch posted:The (first gen) Soul is a car that I really should like but just do not. It's got the quirkiness like a Nissan Cube or a Honda Element (two cars I love for their styling), it drives better than both of those cars, there's partsbin upgrade options out the wazoo from the rest of the Kia FWD family, and it has better engine options with more power. I forgot about the Honda Element, that's a good car for if your tall.
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Dec 23, 2014 19:20
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I don't think you can reliably relate the exterior dimensions of a vehicle with how spacious they are for tall people I'm 6ft 3 and my Aygo has more headroom than any other car I have owned and is by far the smallest car (from the exterior) that I have driven.
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Dec 23, 2014 22:00
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Tomarse posted:I don't think you can reliably relate the exterior dimensions of a vehicle with how spacious they are for tall people
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Dec 23, 2014 22:07
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Viggen posted:The outside is still, uh.. a Soul. Must be doing something right, they've outsold every other small boxy vehicle combined so far this year (includes Buick Encore, Scion xB, Nissan Juke and Cube and the Fiat 500L) and are Kia's second best selling model after the Optima.
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Dec 23, 2014 22:51
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Not surprising at all but my new ram 3500 MEGACAB as the most room of anything I have ever been in. Trade off is parking sucks hard.
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Dec 24, 2014 00:17
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kill me now posted:Must be doing something right, they've outsold every other small boxy vehicle combined so far this year (includes Buick Encore, Scion xB, Nissan Juke and Cube and the Fiat 500L) and are Kia's second best selling model after the Optima. Being the leader in the worst idea executed doesn't really mean it is that great. I can't help but think that since the Element was made with the idea of marketing to the chronically unemployed- the Soul is quite fitting as the shoebox they buried their spokeshamsters in.
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Dec 24, 2014 00:25
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Tomarse posted:I don't think you can reliably relate the exterior dimensions of a vehicle with how spacious they are for tall people This is true in the opposite direction too. The current gen Ford Taurus is one of, if not the biggest mainstream sedan currently on the market yet the current gen Fusion has just as much room for the driver dimensionally. 1 inch less hip room, same or better in every other dimension. For being such a massive god drat car the Taurus really feels way tighter than it has any right to be.
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Dec 24, 2014 02:19
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6'5", 200lbs and both the 2013 & 2015 Honda Fit, fits. Also had no issue in my previous car, 1997 Volvo 850.
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Dec 24, 2014 03:25
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6'5", 280, and the most comfortable modern car I've driven is a Nissan Versa. Miles of leg room. I even fit in the back with the front seats all the way back. Older car wise, my XJ fits like a glove, but nothing has ever been more comfortable than the '84 Buick Estate Wagon I hooned around in for a while. It was like driving a couch, with absurd leg room. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Dec 24, 2014 |
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Dec 24, 2014 03:55
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Holdbrooks posted:Not surprising at all but my new ram 3500 MEGACAB as the most room of anything I have ever been in. Trade off is parking sucks hard. I had to park in the dirt lot next to my Costco the other day because holiday traffic has literally filled up their regular lot, and I didn't feel like circling for 20 minutes. I think with a truck as big as yours, even at a Costco lot I'd take the dirt every time.
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Dec 24, 2014 04:20
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Viggen posted:Being the leader in the worst idea executed doesn't really mean it is that great. I can't help but think that since the Element was made with the idea of marketing to the chronically unemployed- the Soul is quite fitting as the shoebox they buried their spokeshamsters in. They get sold mostly to 50+ year olds who have had SUV's and no longer need the space, size and expense because the kids are long gone but liked the upright position and ride height and still having some utility (60cu ft with the rear seats folded). I'm not really sure what you're getting at about their marketing targets. No one is going after the chronically unemployed
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Dec 24, 2014 04:27
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kill me now posted:I'm not really sure what you're getting at about their marketing targets. No one is going after the chronically unemployed The original "Element" target was for a "Surfer Dude" who didn't manage to stay employed long enough to put it in a resume (there may be slight hyperbole here, but it is unintentional). All I can see is Keanu Reeves.. lite.
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Dec 24, 2014 04:29
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Viggen posted:The original "Element" target was for a "Surfer Dude" who didn't manage to stay employed long enough to put it in a resume (there may be slight hyperbole here, but it is unintentional). All I can see is Keanu Reeves.. lite. They were marketing it to the people who think people who surf are cool but aren't necessarily the ones living that lifestyle.
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Dec 24, 2014 04:34
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kill me now posted:They were marketing it to the people who think people who surf are cool but aren't necessarily the ones living that lifestyle. Asians who wish they were tall - or MST3K fans?
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Dec 24, 2014 04:36
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Liquid Communism posted:6'5", 280, and the most comfortable modern car I've driven is a Nissan Versa. Miles of leg room. I even fit in the back with the front seats all the way back. How? I'm 5'10 and if I put the passenger seat up enough someone behind me is comfortable, My knees are in the dash. Driving it is fine, But whoever is behind me has very little leg room. Seriously. I love the girls Versa. Its great on gas, It gets her where she needs to go, Its pretty reliable. But holy hell leg room. Note, this is a 2014 4 door.
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Dec 24, 2014 05:08
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6'3" here. Cars I fit in 2014+ Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan Subaru WRX 2015 BMW M3/M4/M6 VW GTI Honda Element Toyota Prius Nissan GT-R Kia Soul Scion XB (both models)
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Dec 31, 2014 07:42
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EbolaIvory posted:How? I'm 5'10 and if I put the passenger seat up enough someone behind me is comfortable, My knees are in the dash. Driving it is fine, But whoever is behind me has very little leg room. Theirs is a 2011 4 door, so maybe Nissan goatfucked the back seats since then.
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Dec 31, 2014 17:27
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I have a 6'9" friend, and I'm 6'2". We both love our Challengers I've ridden and driven newer Mustangs. Whoever said that they love the comfort, the Challenger has a way better, smoother, roomier and more comfortable ride. Drive one and you'll be trading that pony in the same day. Nothing rear-wheel drive will be a good daily-driver if you live where winter is a thing...
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Dec 31, 2014 17:35
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Bald White Dad posted:Nothing rear-wheel drive will be a good daily-driver if you live where winter is a thing... The main problem with the pony cars is that they have gently caress all for clearance in the winter. Throw some good winter tires on, and traction won't be an issue moreso than in any other car.
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Dec 31, 2014 18:11
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Liquid Communism posted:Theirs is a 2011 4 door, so maybe Nissan goatfucked the back seats since then. The whole car is smaller now
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Jan 1, 2015 06:38
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PT6A posted:The main problem with the pony cars is that they have gently caress all for clearance in the winter. Throw some good winter tires on, and traction won't be an issue moreso than in any other car. Very true. And I have no idea why you'd spend that kind of money on a car and then expose it to road salt. Bad winter vehicles all around IMO. I cringe whenever I see one around here after Dec. 1st.
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Jan 2, 2015 17:33
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Bald White Dad posted:Very true. And I have no idea why you'd spend that kind of money on a car and then expose it to road salt. Bad winter vehicles all around IMO. Because I want a Mustang and I really don't want to pay $200/month for another parking spot, plus the cost of another car, just to do the little bit of driving I do in the winter. That's a lot of money over the course of a few years.
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Chiming in for absolutely no reason at all! The cars I currently ride/drive are: 2002 Grand Cherokee: Drivers side seat is worn and feels slightly off kilter. I suspect either the foam is worn unevenly or the frame itself is bent. Passenger side feels quite comfy though! Visibility leaves a bit to be desired for me, because of the rake of the windshield and the positioning of the rear view mirror. Wish the seats would go down a bit more. Have plenty of headroom, but everything seems it was placed for someone with a shorter torso and longer arms. 1997 Nissan Altima: My wifes daily driver/ appliance. I hate everything about this car. The seats are flat and uncomfortable, and I feel like I'm inches away from a very painful hemerrhoid. 2007 GMC Sierra Regular Cab: My dads truck and what we usually drive on trips to the gunrange or to go out to eat. The seats could use a bit more movement range, because if you put them far enough back to have good legroom, you're butted up against the rear glass. Kinda meh. Bench seat is mostly comfortable, though not supportive for fast lane changes or spirited driving. 200-something Ford E350 Van: Work ride. Seats have very tall backs. No real adjustments other than back angle, but the lower cushion is nice and long and gives good support to your legs. However, the gas pedal is nearly vertical and gets uncomfortable quick with any use other than the side of the foot. Also, the interior design hasn't aged well and I hate driving it. Still, seats aren't half bad. Other stuff I've driven: 1993 Ford Taurus: Comfortable bench seat, electronic controls. Very good for making out on. Can't remember much more. 1987 Dodge Charger: Seats were pretty supportive. Very high backs, no adjustable headrests though. 1997 Chevrolet Blazer: Two door. Seats as hard and thin as could be imagined, no support at all. Went to Dayton, Ohio with dad and pawpaw on a trip to the air museum. Not a good experience. 2005 Chevrolet Colorado: Dad had this for such a short time that it's hard to remember much about it. No worse or better than the Sierra probably. 199-whatever Buick something: Mother in laws car. Took it to Morgantown (about 4hrs each way from my home) several times. Comfortable as hell! Seats were good, you sank into them, so that helped hold you in place. Lame probably, but I really dug that thing! My parents and grandparents also owned various Hondas of 70s, 80s and 90s vintage, but I mostly remember the back seats of those. And my pawpaws 90s era Cadillac was just awesome as hell! He traded it in on a Hyundai Elantra. 
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West SAAB Story posted:The original "Element" target was for a "Surfer Dude" who didn't manage to stay employed long enough to put it in a resume (there may be slight hyperbole here, but it is unintentional). All I can see is Keanu Reeves.. lite. To this day Honda execs. have no idea why they built the Element or why anyone bought it.
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I'm 6'5" and I've got a Focus ST for a daily driver and an 02 Z06 for fun. I fit fine in the Focus (barely any headroom, though), but I don't think I would have been able to fit in a Fiesta at all. The Corvette has tons of leg room, though.
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Jan 8, 2015 14:52
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I feel we need more recommendations.
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Jan 30, 2015 23:39
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I've sat in a 2004 Lesabre and 2003 Park Avenue, and didn't feel like they let me stretch my legs quite as much as a 1999 Lesabre or 2000 Grand Marquis. 1999 Regal was okay but didn't let me splay my left leg out quite as much as I'm used to.
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Jan 30, 2015 23:46
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I've sat in a 2004 Lesabre and 2003 Park Avenue, and didn't feel like they let me stretch my legs quite as much as a 1999 Lesabre or 2000 Grand Marquis. I had a rental lucerne that i could stretch right the gently caress out in. you could move the seat to the point where my 6'1 father couldn't reach the pedals.
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Grawl posted:I feel we need more recommendations. Go buy a 3500 mega cab. It's the biggest think ever and mostly impossible to park!
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Feb 2, 2015 17:36
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2011 Sonata with the power adjustable cloth seat lets me sit up straight, and I'm too tall for many cars. Got it as a loaner and it's doing a fine job of moving me around while the main ride is being worked on. 06 300C SRT8 was a dream to fit in. It's HUGE, and the adjustable steering column that telescopes and tilts under power, AND the power adjustable pedals, all made for an extremely comfortable ergonomic situation. I'd imagine a 300 with the v6 or regular v8 with these options would similarly be able to fit a tall person easily. 2012 Mustang managed to fit me - with the seat stuck all the way up!  I imagine with the seat properly adjusted down it would be like sitting in a cave.
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I'm not particularly tall (6'1") but I recline the seat more than most (my lower back doesn't like me sitting upright) and it always pisses me off that my head is inline with the B pillar. I can never see poo poo out the sides of most cars. End rant.
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 We corvette now. I'll give a full writing of the days findings when I get home.
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Powershift posted:
How long does it take for the dash to boot?
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Mar 14, 2015 00:44
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Raluek posted:How long does it take for the dash to boot? It is booted. What it's showing is all you need to know. Everything else you discern by feel, sound, or smell.
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1500quidporsche posted:6'2 drive a Mk 2 Scirocco Actually, yeah, I had decent legroom and headroom in my old Mk.II as well, and I'm 6'4. My RX-4 (Mazda) aslo fits me really well with the exception of the steering wheel being too big and sometimes trapping my left knee between it and the door. This is easily solved by resting my foot on the dead pedal, however. I was honestly surprised how hard it was for me to fit into the last-gen (pre-2013) Escapes; they're almost impossible to drive and even riding shotgun my knees are basically welded to the dashboard.
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