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Rasta_Al
Jul 14, 2001

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
Fun Shoe
Blue Cross will argue the pre-existing condition was the pregnancy. Lol

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BEAR GRYLLZ
Jul 30, 2006

I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

Drunk Nerds posted:

Is there a source for this, because that's pretty heavy, man?

nope, i just made it up but it's completely believable. american health insurance companies have literally made this claim are just barely a step above ISIS

BEAR GRYLLZ
Jul 30, 2006

I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

actually if you compare death tolls the US health insurance industry is probably orders of magnitude ahead of ISIS but that's just the free market man, nothing we can do about that!

sexy young infidel
Nov 13, 2014

Faggot of the Year
2012, 2014
why not just ban foreign insurance entirely, that would cut down on the medical tourism. You come here you're paying cash

BEAR GRYLLZ
Jul 30, 2006

I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

sexy young infidel posted:

why not just ban foreign insurance entirely, that would cut down on the medical tourism. You come here you're paying cash

because that's dumb and gay

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

MoreLikeTen posted:

Million Dollar Baby, coming this fall

Oberleutnant posted:

death to america the great satan

sexy young infidel
Nov 13, 2014

Faggot of the Year
2012, 2014
if you come from a socialist country you should be forced to use the socialist healthcare imo

BEAR GRYLLZ
Jul 30, 2006

I have strong erections for Israel.
Strong, pathetic erections.

if you're a foreigner who has a baby in the US your baby should be taken and sold to ISIS so your actual home country can spend millions paying the ransom to get him/her/it back

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Drunk Nerds posted:

I have a good story that relates to this:
When my wife and I were trying to get pregnant, she would often suggest getting supplemental insurance. I would argue that we already had a Cadillac (really good) policy, but she just put her foot down and won the debate.

A few months pass, and we find out she's pregnant.

With triplets.

And a fibroid (benign tumor) in her uterus literally the size of a basketball.

One of the triplets got absorbed early on, but the remaining two twins grew around the tumor. She was hospitalized for pain for about 6 weeks, then gave birth two months early.

Adding up neonatal intensive care costs, and all the hospital visits, the bill came to over $2 million dollars.

Our policy paid for all of it but $5k. When you throw in the money she made from supplemental insurance (about $11k), we actually made money off our policies. Obviously we didn't profit because we still lost money from her missing work, but still.

We now have two beautiful healthy two-year-old boys and zero debt.

absorbed

That sounds horrifying.

Kleen_TheRacistDog
Feb 17, 2014

Can't bust the Krust fuckman
www.skullmund.com

Melmac posted:

:laffo: @ the comments section.





Reminder that this woman was 6 months pregnant, not 8 or 9 months.

:qq: This country is in the shitter because someone who bought health insurance while traveling to the US 3 months before their due date wants the birth covered. What ever happened to personal responsibility? :qq:
I'll never understand white poor white trash are basically willing supplicants to the 1%. Like, don't they realize whose battle they are fighting? Or are they hoping that one day they'll become a CEO or something? Like, I seriously don't get it.

Also, this story really pissed me off. THEUSAISAMONSTER

sexy young infidel
Nov 13, 2014

Faggot of the Year
2012, 2014

BEAR GRYLLZ posted:

if you're a foreigner who has a baby in the US your baby should be taken and sold to ISIS so your actual home country can spend millions paying the ransom to get him/her/it back

this, but unironically and without the lisp. Its a huge problem all these countries paying ransoms to ISIS and they should be punished severely

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

I'll never understand white poor white trash are basically willing supplicants to the 1%. Like, don't they realize whose battle they are fighting? Or are they hoping that one day they'll become a CEO or something? Like, I seriously don't get it.

Also, this story really pissed me off. THEUSAISAMONSTER

Why are women always blaming women for their own rapes? It's easier to throw spmeone else under the bus than admit you live in a hosed up society

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

I'll never understand white poor white trash are basically willing supplicants to the 1%. Like, don't they realize whose battle they are fighting? Or are they hoping that one day they'll become a CEO or something? Like, I seriously don't get it.

Also, this story really pissed me off. THEUSAISAMONSTER

well have you heard of cults

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

I'll never understand white poor white trash are basically willing supplicants to the 1%. Like, don't they realize whose battle they are fighting? Or are they hoping that one day they'll become a CEO or something? Like, I seriously don't get it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with that. It has to do with their team winning. They don't care if they literally vote their wealth, and well being away, so long as their team wins. That is the short and long of politics in the USA.

There are Bears fans, believe it or not. It just is.

Philthy fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Nov 19, 2014

EngineerSean
Feb 9, 2004

by zen death robot

SHISHKABOB posted:

absorbed

That sounds horrifying.

I thought the same thing.

tthat poor baby.

cclawing against anything it could grab as the tumor ate him.

hhis brothers won't help.

hhis momma won't help.

hhe opens his mouth but he can't even scream, no vocal cords yet.

pplease donate to st. Jude

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Philthy posted:

It has absolutely nothing to do with that. It has to do with their team winning. They don't care if they literally vote their wealth, and well being away, so long as their team wins. That is the short and long of politics in the USA.

There are Bears fans, believe it or not. It just is.

Um, that's human nature everywhere for all time, it's not special to the modern day USA.

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

hemale in pain posted:

it's a good thing she had the choice between being charged for medical aid or choosing to die and not pay a bill

its a good thing she had a choice to not go to a country that doesn't have free hc while she was preggers :yum:

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Melmac posted:

Actually Blue Cross is a non-profit health insurance provider and they are not publically traded on the stock market Like Wellpoint, Cigna, and Humana are. :smug:

thats why i went with them

but i think they are like a brand name and people just buy into them for name recognition

they are relatively good in California

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




DeusExMachinima posted:

its a good thing she had a choice to not go to a country that doesn't have free hc while she was preggers :yum:

it must be her fault rather than the lovely country

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
i mean if youre a foreigner there are like 3 cool places in the USA who cares

Hungry Joe
Nov 27, 2006

DDFH

Drunk Nerds posted:

One of the triplets got absorbed early on

I'd like to hear more about this

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Gunky Junket posted:

It wasn't just "deliver a baby" though. The woman took up a hospital bed for six weeks, nurses/doctors and medical attention during that time, plus the birth itself - all that poo poo adds up.

This isn't just an America thing. You'd be nuts to travel anywhere overseas without adequate travel/sickness insurance. The bills add up for foreigners reeeeeal quick.

i'll tell you teh secret: just don't pay

like lol if you think hospitals are going to sue you in another country. usually theyll sell your debt to some lovely colleciton agency who will make a few half-assed phone calls and then give up.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

they have to make up for that guy who had 29 babies

Gunky Junket
Oct 30, 2014

by Ralp

DeusExMachinima posted:

its a good thing she had a choice to not go to a country that doesn't have free hc while she was preggers :yum:

I'm not sure that you're understanding it correctly. My country has free health care, but if you come to my country, and need the hospital, then either yourself or your insurance will be paying for it - and paying for it big.

It wouldn't matter which country, besides her own, that she visited. She'd have racked up a hefty bill.

sexy young infidel
Nov 13, 2014

Faggot of the Year
2012, 2014

Gunky Junket posted:

I'm not sure that you're understanding it correctly. My country has free health care, but if you come to my country, and need the hospital, then either yourself or your insurance will be paying for it - and paying for it big.

It wouldn't matter which country, besides her own, that she visited. She'd have racked up a hefty bill.

do NOT distract us with facts pls. I've got a lot to say about the american healthcare system ever since they billed me so much for the ambulance after i had a _very_ serious panic attack

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc
also nobody actually pays the number on the bill, it's just some bullshit made up for negotiations with insurance companies.

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
Do hospitals come into your room with a little piece of paper and leave it upside down on the bedside table when they think you're ready to leave. Is that how hospital bills work.

Gunky Junket
Oct 30, 2014

by Ralp

Mange Mite posted:

i'll tell you teh secret: just don't pay

like lol if you think hospitals are going to sue you in another country. usually theyll sell your debt to some lovely colleciton agency who will make a few half-assed phone calls and then give up.

Yeah, but just my luck it'll happen in some shithole that (if you're a foreigner) won't attend to you unless you can show insurance documents or pay an exorbitant up-front deposit. I don't like running too many risks when it comes health - travel insurance is always one of the first things put on the budget list. :D

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

SHISHKABOB posted:

absorbed

That sounds horrifying.

http://youtu.be/zcNwKBPE7Rg?t=2m9s

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

SHISHKABOB posted:

Do hospitals come into your room with a little piece of paper and leave it upside down on the bedside table when they think you're ready to leave. Is that how hospital bills work.
they add on gratuity automatically too its criminal

madeupfred
Oct 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

FordPRefectLL posted:

i'm curious why the hospital thinks they can charge that much

it's the same thing as suing someone for a million dollars. chances are they don't have a million dollars and they'll just file for bankruptcy and you don't get your money.

Did you even read the article? She was hospitalized before the flight and told by doctors that she had a high-risk pregnancy, then she spent six weeks in a Hawaiian hospital because her child was two months premature. She was probably trying to get her kid dual citizenship but forgot to read the terms and conditions of her health insurance. :ssh:

Gunky Junket
Oct 30, 2014

by Ralp

sexy young infidel posted:

do NOT distract us with facts pls. I've got a lot to say about the american healthcare system ever since they billed me so much for the ambulance after i had a _very_ serious panic attack

*laffn* :D

DeusExMachinima
Sep 2, 2012

:siren:This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!:siren:

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

Gunky Junket posted:

I'm not sure that you're understanding it correctly. My country has free health care, but if you come to my country, and need the hospital, then either yourself or your insurance will be paying for it - and paying for it big.

It wouldn't matter which country, besides her own, that she visited. She'd have racked up a hefty bill.

yes i get that, ty mom. im saying if she cared about her poor poopsie-pumpkin so much she could've stayed home for a few more months

Baba Ganoush
Oct 12, 2014
Dinosaur Gum
http://youtu.be/E9tHJ-cm338

Xachariah
Jul 26, 2004

madeupfred posted:

Did you even read the article? She was hospitalized before the flight and told by doctors that she had a high-risk pregnancy, then she spent six weeks in a Hawaiian hospital because her child was two months premature. She was probably trying to get her kid dual citizenship but forgot to read the terms and conditions of her health insurance. :ssh:

I dont understand, her kid would already be a canadian citizen

like, its basically an american getting dual mexican citizenship, it doesnt logic

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

thank you

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Medical insurance is the weirdest thing. You spend years paying into something and then when you finally need it they'll come up with some excuse as to why this particular claim isn't covered. Why is it even a thing in first world countries.

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

ArbitraryC posted:

Medical insurance is the weirdest thing. You spend years paying into something and then when you finally need it they'll come up with some excuse as to why this particular claim isn't covered. Why is it even a thing in first world countries.

No medical insurance claims are ever approved ever.

Also it's not like we only pay 20 dollars when I make a doctor's appointment.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

madeupfred posted:

Did you even read the article? She was hospitalized before the flight and told by doctors that she had a high-risk pregnancy, then she spent six weeks in a Hawaiian hospital because her child was two months premature. She was probably trying to get her kid dual citizenship but forgot to read the terms and conditions of her health insurance. :ssh:

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/saskatchewan-couple-considering-bankruptcy-after-1m-medical-bill-1.2108911

""I was never told by any doctor that I was a high-risk pregnancy," she told CTV's Canada AM in an interview on Wednesday morning. "I had a bladder infection at four months that caused some hemorrhaging, but I was treated and everything was cleared up."

"Kimmel and Huculak said that when they purchased their insurance they spoke with a Blue Cross representative who assured them that they would be covered.
Kimmel said looking back, there's nothing they could have done to have further protected themselves.
"I think we did our due diligence. We answered the questions that we were asked when we purchased the policy; we answered them honestly," he said. "We purchase insurance for these reasons, for when accidents happen. And then when they get denied it causes quite a problem.""

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Baba Ganoush
Oct 12, 2014
Dinosaur Gum

ArbitraryC posted:

Medical insurance is the weirdest thing. You spend years paying into something and then when you finally need it they'll come up with some excuse as to why this particular claim isn't covered. Why is it even a thing in first world countries.

Now it's mandated by law and is more expensive, oh and it's more expensive. Thanks obama.

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