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heh hope i got your attention with this title but seriously, science as in physics, chemistry, biology etc. is pretty important, but if you seriously think about both your day to day life as well as society as a whole, the biggest problems we all encounter have to do with resource allocation and societal organization as well as decision making. i'm currently finishing my phd thesis in chemistry, but over the time i've realized that the biggest problems are caused by the system, man. and the system is people. post itt thread if you think science and stem is to full of itself and that humans and humanity are the things that have to be understood better science still rules though have a cute sloth
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so what you're saying is the world would be better if everyone majored in philosophy instead? because i would ahve to agree
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:17 |
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hmm, philosophy is something everyone should learn. we all know how important the power of science is, but we still underestimate how important it is to recognize ourselves and our weaknesses and strenghts. we know much more about space than we know about being human.
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post more sloths
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proof of concept posted:post more sloths
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proof of concept posted:post more sloths
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gently caress the system man
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If you want to better understand humanity, get a real job which involves some labor. Your answers await you there.
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STEM is full of itself and math is awesome because it represents all the comparatively simple stuff that can be easily and empirically solved for. There's a great clip out there about Conway's Life Game where a guy talks about how there's this notion that math is some monolithic, supremely and uniquely difficult thing which only a fraction people could possibly hope to grasp, when really math is the stuff we do understand. Life on the other hand... it's so far beyond our ability to model in the same way we model all the phenomena we do have a solid understanding of that the mind boggles.
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:31 |
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:gently caress the system man use your phd in chemestry to make us all cute sloths
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The Protagonist posted:STEM is full of itself and math is awesome because it represents all the comparatively simple stuff that can be easily and empirically solved for. link? also i think sloths have figured it out all by themselves sloths > man
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:use your phd in chemestry to make us all cute sloths i don't have my phd yet also creating sloth-humans is unethical change ethics then i will change humanity
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:link? i totes would have included one if i could find the program in question
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:34 |
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:also i think sloths have figured it out all by themselves this is obviously true
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:i don't have my phd yet Your said your the smart guy. you change it.
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The Protagonist posted:i totes would have included one if i could find the program in question math still owns science owns humans are meh, like 8/10 in video game review scores
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:36 |
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:math still owns May I ask how old you are?
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:Your said your the smart guy. you change it. lol you think you have to be smart to get a phd i'm not smart.
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humanity is lame, being a human blows science is the only possible way I'll ever have a robot body with the strength of five gorillas therefore science is best
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:May I ask how old you are? 30
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proof of concept posted:post more sloths
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if you're talking about those nerds who are all like STEM >> EVERYTHING ELSE, those dudes don't actually seem to make it too far in their studies in my experience? science and scientists certainly have some work to do in terms of being relatable to everyone else, but i think i'm entirely not addressing the point you're trying to make Lucy Heartfilia posted:lol you think you have to be smart to get a phd this however, is generally pretty true
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:math still owns oh totes malotes, thats why Conway's game's goal (if not the results) are so interesting. how does complexity emerge from simple rule sets and can we formulate or deduce such rule sets? i loving love physics and engineering in no small part precisely because of how simple it can become, compared to, say, neuroscience which i could never ever do for more reasons than being a pussy about slicing up brains. just give me the high energy radiation any day plz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdMzngWchDk oh here it is, it's Conway himself talkin bout it
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:42 |
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hell tyeah gently caress science
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:44 |
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science is the WORST i dont believe in science i believe in G-D
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im gay
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Hey, I just wanted to pop in and say nice sloths. Keep it up
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# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:46 |
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As someone in an MA program for history with a focus on the socioeconomics of the medieval period, I e: just depressed myself! ee: want beer! eee: love the movie "Prometheus!" eeee: drive a honda accord! eeeee: wish I had taken a chance on art school! eeeeee: look ten years older than I am because booze! eeeeeee: beat a guy up once eeeeeeee: have always wanted Wolverine size whiskers eeeeeeeee: vote very seriously on local measures about rezoning the city of Salem limits eeeeeeeeee: don't like that people are trying to spin "geek" into a positive word eeeeeeeeeee: love to annoy my friends with my Don Knotts impression eeeeeeeeeeee: am terrified of hornets eeeeeeeeeeeee: have no knowledge or desire to learn anything about modern politics whatsoever eeeeeeeeeeeeee: am vaguely uneasy about the idea of robots eeeeeeeeeeeeeee: like "the environment," don't like "industrial waste" eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee: once bit my pinkie nail so hard while slamming a hoagie there's a permanent black mark on it where blood is trapped under the cuticle Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Nov 22, 2014 |
# ? Nov 22, 2014 02:46 |
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What PHD do you have?
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scorpiobean posted:if you're talking about those nerds who are all like STEM >> EVERYTHING ELSE, those dudes don't actually seem to make it too far in their studies in my experience? yeah i think the superiority attitude has come from a system desperately grooming people to take up the banner of what is often difficult and tedious work, and so kids put the time in and maybe instead of going out drinking a few nights they cram for some exams and hey! you're an engineer now, YOU SHAPE THE WORLD and make BIG DECISIONS and aren't faffing about like those libartards good on ya' son
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scorpiobean posted:if you're talking about those nerds who are all like STEM >> EVERYTHING ELSE, those dudes don't actually seem to make it too far in their studies in my experience? yep. exactly. and you are adressing the right thing. we need to introduce the scientific method in a far broader range. but on the other hand, how ethical are expiriments with entire economies? also thanks for the conway video. i love conways game of life.
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Mumpy Puffinz posted:What PHD do you have? CHEMISTRY hopefully in january 2015 i'm not the fastest phd student, yes.
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also i do genetics i will make the sloth-humans
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:yep. exactly. nigga not all science is done via experiments havent u ever heard ogf observational science?????? astronomy much b*tch
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hey guess what moron the reason why we don't know what the gently caress we're doing is because people who are good at science don't do 'soft science'. the scientific method is a mechanically perfect way of refining understanding and in these important areas you mention not a single person knows how to apply it or even trusts it. that means in the places where you really loving have to know objective truth because lies hang in the balance, people have absolutely no way to find it. if we could actually perform controlled experiments on large populations then we might actually be able to do real political science and proper social engineering, actual government architecture built on real social dynamics. we can't because a) everyone thinks that being in an experiment is bad, thanks to mengele and b) the people in politics are so aggressively stupid that they actually believe that relying on evidence and changing your opinion based on that evidence is weakness its a real chicken and the egg problem but if a single country figures how to cut the gordian knot, that they need to do real science to answer questions of policy and structure, they will have a socio-economic revolution the scale of which will rival the information age and no power will be able to compete with them, they will either have to rapidly change their system of government to whatever this country discovers or be crushed by their economic might, like a seed crystal in a solution.
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ilikedirt posted:nigga not all science is done via experiments havent u ever heard ogf observational science?????? astronomy much b*tch well, that's a good point. now tell economists that. chaosbreather posted:hey guess what moron this. lol at least Steam is proving something.
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we really need more experiments and research. and it really doesn't have to be on the scale of soviet russia.
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