The United States government is full of war criminals

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Top City Homo: Oct 15, 2014; Ramrod XTreme

Baba Ganoush posted:

I honestly can't believe you didn't include Jews because they're like 90% of the US government.

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MegaGatts: Dec 12, 2004; The Enteroctopus dofleini, also known as the giant Pacific octopus (GPO) or North Pacific giant octopus, is a large marine cephalopod belonging to the phylum Mollusca and is tripping balls.

To be fair the notion of war crimes is dumb and only made so the west can punish people it doesn't like. War itself is a crime against humanity. To separate the murder of people into sections of acceptable slaughter and unacceptable slaughter is absurd to a hilarious degree.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:31

Dead Precedents: May 5, 2005; Precedents come and go, but death goes on forever.

Harry S. Truman needs to be on that list. Mother fucker was the only guy to drop nuclear bombs on cities.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:34

Top City Homo: Oct 15, 2014; Ramrod XTreme

MegaGatts posted:

To be fair the notion of war crimes is dumb and only made so the west can punish people it doesn't like. War itself is a crime against humanity. To separate the murder of people into sections of acceptable slaughter and unacceptable slaughter is absurd to a hilarious degree.

-a childs opinion

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:35

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

This is really negative, so let's go with a hero story.

Hugh Thompson Jr.

He landed his helicopter near the village of My Lai

quote:

Thompson asked a sergeant he encountered there (David Mitchell of the 1st Platoon) if he could help get the people out of the ditch, and the sergeant replied that he would "help them out of their misery". Thompson, shocked and confused, then spoke with 2LT Calley, who claimed to be "just following orders". As the helicopter took off, Thompson saw Mitchell firing into the ditch.

At this point Warrant Officer Thompson decided that this was loving horrible bullshit.

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"just hold your men right where they are, and I'll get the kids out". He found 12�16 people in the bunker, coaxed them out and led them to the helicopter, standing with them while they were flown out in two groups.

Thompson flew dozens of innocents out of the village.

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Spotting some survivors in the ditch, Thompson landed again. A crew member entered the ditch and returned with a bloodied, but apparently unharmed child who was flown to safety. The child was thought to be a boy, but later turned out to be a four-year-old girl. Thompson then reported what he had seen to his company commander, Major (MAJ) Frederic W. Watke, using terms such as "murder" and "needless and unnecessary killings". Thompson's statements were confirmed by other helicopter pilots and air crew members.

Thompson witnessed other soldiers murdering innocent Vietnamese bystanders and spoke up.

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As the DFC citation included a fabricated account of rescuing a young girl from My Lai from "intense crossfire" Thompson threw his medal away

Thompson didn't take any of that poo poo and was the definition of a real war hero.

code:

Thompson: What's going on here, Lieutenant?
Calley: This is my business.
Thompson: What is this? Who are these people?
Calley: Just following orders.
Thompson: Orders? Whose orders?
Calley: Just following...
Thompson: But, these are human beings, unarmed civilians, sir.
Calley: Look Thompson, this is my show. I'm in charge here. It ain't your concern.
Thompson: Yeah, great job.
Calley: You better get back in that chopper and mind your own business.
Thompson: You ain't heard the last of this!

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:37

MegaGatts: Dec 12, 2004; The Enteroctopus dofleini, also known as the giant Pacific octopus (GPO) or North Pacific giant octopus, is a large marine cephalopod belonging to the phylum Mollusca and is tripping balls.

TEAYCHES posted:

This is really negative, so let's go with a hero story.

Hugh Thompson Jr.

it's ok though the guy who did that "murdering women and children" thing got an appropriate punishment

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William Laws Calley, Jr. (born June 8, 1943) is a former United States Army officer found guilty of murdering 22 unarmed South Vietnamese civilians in the My Lai Massacre on March 16, 1968, during the Vietnam War. After several reductions, Calley�s original sentence of life in prison was turned into an order of house arrest

oh well that's kind of hosed up but surely the president can step in and fix this travesty

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but after three years, President Nixon reduced his sentence with a presidential pardon.

lol

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:45

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

added Nixon to the list.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:46

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

what did the war criminals at Nuremberg get anyway? it was hanging, right? if they didn't have knowledge of rocket propulsion

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:48

Business Gorillas: Mar 11, 2009

i'd like to nominate M�el Brigte the Bucktoothed to the war criminal list

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According to the Orkneyinga saga, towards the end of his reign, Sigurd challenged a native ruler, M�el Brigte the Bucktoothed, to a 40-man-a-side battle. Treacherously, Sigurd brought 80 men to the fight. M�el Brigte was defeated and beheaded. Sigurd strapped the head to his saddle as a trophy, but as Sigurd rode, M�el Brigte's buck-tooth scratched his leg. The leg became inflamed and infected, and as a result Sigurd died. He was buried in a tumulus known as Sigurd's Howe, or Sigur�ar-haugr, from the Old Norse word haugr meaning mound or barrow. The location of Sigurd's Howe is most probably modern-day Sidera or Cyderhall near Dornoch.[1][3][4]

Sigurd's death was apparently followed by a period of instability.[3] He was succeeded by his son Guttorm, who died within a few months. Rognvald made his son Hallad Earl of Orkney, but Hallad could not contain the pirate Vikings, resigned his earldom and returned to Norway in disgrace.[1][3][4] The sagas say that Rognvald's other sons were more interested in conquering places other than Scotland, and so the earldom was given to Rognvald's youngest son, Einarr, whose mother was a slave.[4]

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:49

Dead Precedents: May 5, 2005; Precedents come and go, but death goes on forever.

TEAYCHES posted:

what did the war criminals at Nuremberg get anyway? it was hanging, right? if they didn't have knowledge of rocket propulsion

Look, all I'm saying is that Unit 731 should get a pardon 'cause they gave us all the information they gathered for us torturing and murdering people.

(Add everyone from that and who helped them later to list)

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:50

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

Business Gorillas posted:

i'd like to nominate M�el Brigte the Bucktoothed to the war criminal list

inter-tribal disputes between my ancestors dont really own up to the definition of war crimes, sorry.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:52

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

Dead Precedents posted:

Look, all I'm saying is that Unit 731 should get a pardon 'cause they gave us all the information they gathered for us torturing and murdering people.

(Add everyone from that and who helped them later to list)

added to the list

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:54

MegaGatts: Dec 12, 2004; The Enteroctopus dofleini, also known as the giant Pacific octopus (GPO) or North Pacific giant octopus, is a large marine cephalopod belonging to the phylum Mollusca and is tripping balls.

Teayches please describe a hypothetical war without war crimes. I cannot imagine one.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 08:58

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

MegaGatts posted:

Teayches please describe a hypothetical war without war crimes. I cannot imagine one.

All wars imply war crimes, but all wars are optional. The United States has chosen to wage endless war upon a number of states in an insane Imperial quest which will end in failure.

The United States faces no existential threat. There is no threat facing the United States. All wars which we wage are aggressive and, if you can excuse my language, extremely hosed up.

Also hundreds of thousands of real human beings have died, directly, from this.

TEAYCHES fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Nov 23, 2014

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:01

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

We have literally extinguished hundreds of thousands of unique existences, or however you want to put it. People. Humans. Families?

They are dead now, thanks to American military might and an amazing lie concocted by the United States in TYOOL 2003.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:03

proof of concept: Mar 6, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

TEAYCHES posted:

If the same standards were applied to US officials as were applied to Nazi leaders in 1945 they would easily be convicted of war crimes by any court of blind and fair justice. This includes such notable names like Barack H. Obama, Donald H. Rumsfeld, George H. W. Bush, Hillary R. Clinton, John F. Kerry, John D. Ashcroft, Alberto R. Gonzalez, Eric H. Holder, Jr. etc.

All of these people are guilty of heinous warcrimes against innocent people. They have been complicit in the murder of children and the shirking of any possible responsibility for it.

The next presidential election will give you a choice between current or possible war criminals.

Added:

Robert S. McNamara
Heinz A. Kissinger
Ghenghis Khan
Tony C. L. Blair
Adolf Hitler
Vladimir I. Ulyanov
Hulagu Khan
Publius C. S. A. A. Numantinus
Harry S. Truman
Richard M. Nixon
Shirō Ishii

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:03

MegaGatts: Dec 12, 2004; The Enteroctopus dofleini, also known as the giant Pacific octopus (GPO) or North Pacific giant octopus, is a large marine cephalopod belonging to the phylum Mollusca and is tripping balls.

TEAYCHES posted:

All wars imply war crimes, but all wars are optional. The United States has chosen to wage endless war upon a number of states in an insane Imperial quest which will end in failure.

The United States faces no existential threat. There is no threat facing the United States. All wars which we wage are aggressive and, if you can excuse my language, extremely hosed up.

Also hundreds of real human beings have died, directly, from this.

So instead of making a list why don't you just say every American military commander of like major on up?

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:04

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

MegaGatts posted:

So instead of making a list why don't you just say every American military commander of like major on up?

because that would be missing the forest for the trees, you dumb poo poo.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:05

proof of concept: Mar 6, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

TEAYCHES posted:

We have literally extinguished hundreds of thousands of unique existences, or however you want to put it. People. Humans. Families?

They are dead now, thanks to American military might and an amazing lie concocted by the United States in TYOOL 2003.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:05

MegaGatts: Dec 12, 2004; The Enteroctopus dofleini, also known as the giant Pacific octopus (GPO) or North Pacific giant octopus, is a large marine cephalopod belonging to the phylum Mollusca and is tripping balls.

TEAYCHES posted:

because that would be missing the forest for the trees, you dumb poo poo.

Ah, you want another thread where you can impotently rant about things. Gotcha.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:06

RonMexicosPitbull: Feb 28, 2012; by Ralp

nah

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:07

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TEAYCHES posted:

youre on a tear and i wont stop you. i know you are a good person

One day you may make a good thread. But this is not that day and this is that thread.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:07

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

MegaGatts posted:

Ah, you want another thread where you can impotently rant about things. Gotcha.

Yes, the needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of Arabs, some of which I knew, are just the products of impotent raging, for your psychopathic worldview.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:08

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

Iamblikhos posted:

One day you may make a good thread. But this is not that day and this is that thread.

good to know this is that thread, retard

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:09

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RonMexicosPitbull: Feb 28, 2012; by Ralp

you should prob look up who killed them, since you knew them n stuff

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:09

Vengarr: Jun 17, 2010; Smashed before noon

Scipio the Younger is innocent. Sure he razed Carthage to the ground, on direct orders from the Senate, but he did so after evacuating all the citizens.

Robert Macnamara was an actual psychopath. I saw the interview series he did on the Vietnam years and the utter disconnect from reality was awe-inspiring. It should be shown in psych classes as a test case.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:11

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

RonMexicosPitbull posted:

you should prob look up who killed them, since you knew them n stuff

who killed who? i need names for the list.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:14

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TEAYCHES posted:

good to know this is that thread, retard

Yeah, I kinda was asking for it with that typo.

This is a bad thread, is what I'm trying to say.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:16

Dead Precedents: May 5, 2005; Precedents come and go, but death goes on forever.

Vengarr posted:

Scipio the Younger is innocent. Sure he razed Carthage to the ground, on direct orders from the Senate, but he did so after evacuating all the citizens.

Robert Macnamara was an actual psychopath. I saw the interview series he did on the Vietnam years and the utter disconnect from reality was awe-inspiring. It should be shown in psych classes as a test case.

He was no Scipio Africanus, though. That guy was a balla.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:17

Louis: Nov 23, 2014

All violent acts should be accounted for. It is up to the people at large to expose the brutal injustices that happen in the world and act against them.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:18

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

Iamblikhos posted:

Yeah, I kinda was asking for it with that typo.

This is a bad thread, is what I'm trying to say.

What I'm trying to say is that you don't have a point of view or any kind of ethical argument to make other than an existential shrugging of your own shoulders

If you don't care or don't give a poo poo, put that out there, because that's a totally real point to make, in my humble opinion.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:19

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TEAYCHES posted:

What I'm trying to say is that you don't have a point of view or any kind of ethical argument to make other than an existential shrugging of your own shoulders

If you don't care or don't give a poo poo, put that out there, because that's a totally real point to make, in my humble opinion.

I do. My point of view is that this is a terrible thread and my ethical argument is that you should feel bad for making a terrible thread like this one.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:22

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

Iamblikhos posted:

I do. My point of view is that this is a terrible thread and my ethical argument is that you should feel bad for making a terrible thread like this one.

Actually, your posts are bad. You should feel bad for saying nothing and also for being dumb.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:24

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TEAYCHES posted:

You should feel bad for saying nothing and also for being dumb.

This is exactly how I feel about this thread.

# ? Nov 23, 2014 09:26

TEAYCHES: Jun 23, 2002

That also has, may I point out, little to do with the veracity of warcrimes accusations against the US government during the Iraq and Afghan wars.

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Sucrose: Dec 9, 2009

Still haven't answered how the current president is a war criminal. I'm waiting.

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