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OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Dangit Ronpaul posted:

dumb gently caress from iowa has terrible taste in everything

in other news, scientists discover water is wet, pope still catholic

Wait he's from Iowa? Fuckin lol

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am0kgonzo
Jun 18, 2010

Jastiger posted:


Don't lose value as quickly


hahahahahahahaha

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


The 60s-70s muscle cars are loving cool and you're a fool if you don't want a loving '68 yellow Camaro with black stripes.

Otherwise I agree, unless you're just a collector. Also gently caress anything without power steering as a general rule.

Dangit Ronpaul
May 12, 2009

hemophilia posted:

The 60s-70s muscle cars are loving cool and you're a fool if you don't want a loving '68 yellow Camaro with black stripes.

Otherwise I agree, unless you're just a collector. Also gently caress anything without power steering as a general rule.

ehh, most power steering on 60s/70s cars is hilariously overboosted so if i'm getting a car from then i'd just as soon not have it

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

this is my whip

Jastiger
Oct 11, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Whorelord posted:

this is my whip



Car is ugly as hell.

But it also gets more than 15 MPG and isn't a literal death trap like a lot of these older American waste buckets.

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
Had a 91 bmw 525 with 88,000 miles when i got it and it was awesome. Had no shakes rattles or noises at all, cruised at 90 comfortably like it was 40, and handled so good. Like i could feel where all the wheels were at all times without it feeling rigid or go-karty. Of course it turned out the PO slightly neglected it and i had to redo a terrible valve cover gasket job and get new brakes, a water pump and a bunch of small things but it was worth it. Had it tinted and new exhaust and it looked great. I miss that car. Now a japanese college student drives it to vermont and back and she loves it. And now im a bum and may never have a car again. But you are off the mark op, 85 to 03 was the golden years for german luxury sedans.

The 5th Foid
Nov 22, 2014

by Ralp

Jastiger posted:

lmbo if you think old cars are better than modern cars.

Why yes, I want an old car that is inefficient, loud, uncomfortable, janky, unsafe, and expensive as hell to repair and insure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxd27jlZ_g

New cars:

Efficient
Safe
Look awesome
Fast
Affordable
Comfortable
Don't lose value as quickly
Status symbol
Sexy

Old cars:

Lol I have either too much money and waste it on old-n-busted or I have too little money that I think vehicles are assets.

:qq:B-b-b-b its a CLASSIC.:qq:

Yeah maybe if you dump $50K into it and keep it NOT on blocks in your drive way.

Also, why do folk love old Buick LeSabres and Lincoln Towncars? They are ugly and inefficient, and can't you get a late model Kia Rio or something for the same money and less maintenance?

what the hell? gently caress off OP

The 5th Foid
Nov 22, 2014

by Ralp

Tautologicus posted:

Had a 91 bmw 525 with 88,000 miles when i got it and it was awesome. Had no shakes rattles or noises at all, cruised at 90 comfortably like it was 40, and handled so good. Like i could feel where all the wheels were at all times without it feeling rigid or go-karty. Of course it turned out the PO slightly neglected it and i had to redo a terrible valve cover gasket job and get new brakes, a water pump and a bunch of small things but it was worth it. Had it tinted and new exhaust and it looked great. I miss that car. Now a japanese college student drives it to vermont and back and she loves it. And now im a bum and may never have a car again. But you are off the mark op, 85 to 03 was the golden years for german luxury sedans.

Lol is 88 000 s considered high milage for german failmolbiles? Buy a real car and you won't have any trouble OP.

open container
Sep 16, 2008

Tautologicus posted:

Had a 91 bmw 525 with 88,000 miles when i got it and it was awesome. Had no shakes rattles or noises at all, cruised at 90 comfortably like it was 40, and handled so good. Like i could feel where all the wheels were at all times without it feeling rigid or go-karty. Of course it turned out the PO slightly neglected it and i had to redo a terrible valve cover gasket job and get new brakes, a water pump and a bunch of small things but it was worth it. Had it tinted and new exhaust and it looked great. I miss that car. Now a japanese college student drives it to vermont and back and she loves it. And now im a bum and may never have a car again. But you are off the mark op, 85 to 03 was the golden years for german luxury sedans.

I don't think this is what the OP is about

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry


:fap:

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

The 5th Foid posted:

Lol is 88 000 s considered high milage for german failmolbiles? Buy a real car and you won't have any trouble OP.

No..my point was it was low mileage. Was driven 4,000 miles a year since it was made. Bmw e34's regularly get to 400k+, theyre sturdy as poo poo

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
please give me a flaming barrel of oil on a dolly to ride to work on while I spray aerosol cans into it because gently caress the environment

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

open container posted:

I don't think this is what the OP is about

Yes it is, gently caress getting a 2014 ford focus over a 90s german luxury cruiser. Id do it again with 4x the income.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
I want to get into a cage made of smelting biproducts then a marine biologist places the cage onto a whale carcass that he's strapped a bunch of dynamite onto and then I blast off to work like I'm in team rocket

and thats the way it was
Feb 14, 2011

Cat Terrist posted:

OP is an idiot and a pisspoor troll.

Carol Pizzamom
Jul 13, 2006

a bear you feed is a bear and a steed
Here's some pros and cons 4 your consideration GBS

Old cars:

* Cool Aesthetics
* Minimalist E-Bay so you can see how your car works and work on your car
* Drive in fun and interesting ways because a lot of stuff was still being figured out

New cars:

* Can look cool, often look really boring because hard edges (especially in the front) are a safety hazard, and big flat grills are not aerodynamic
* As a rule new cars are much more powerful, faster, and well made. If you don't believe this you're wrong. You can smoke the nicest production pony car in the world from 1960 with a relatively cheap modern car.
* Engine bay and undercarriage is filled with bullshit plastic covers that make things difficult to maintain, electronic control units that often need a specialized tool, and all other manner of bullshit to try to force you to either buy a new one or only get it repaired at a company licensed mechanic
* Generally safer and more efficient, even when more powerful (See challenger SRT)

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
*drives past the thread real slow*
*looks mean and probably has illegal guns and drugs*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdaM5Mv-TTo

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

TOILETLORD posted:

2 of those are trucks.

Which two are you talking about? Because I can tell you for a fact that the PT Cruiser was originally designed on the Neon platform.

Harald
Jul 10, 2009

LINKIN PARK


Kleen_TheRowdyDog posted:

as soon as i make some money, i'm gonna buy a 1986 Pontiac Firebird and fix it up and drive around town in the summer blasting GNR and honking at high school girls.

live the dream buddy

open container
Sep 16, 2008

Speleothing posted:

Which two are you talking about? Because I can tell you for a fact that the PT Cruiser was originally designed on the Neon platform.

Yeah but it's a truck to scam the minimum average mpg requirements

Idiot Kicker
Jun 13, 2007
look at all these eurotrash socialists with their boxy rear end volvos and poo poo
i'm an american drat it. i NEED a truck that's so big it will NEVER lose in a head on collision.

Miggles
Dec 8, 2003

I prefer my car to use the same amount of gas that would drive a Prius 80 miles, while passing said Prius.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

So tell someone who doesn't know dick about cars something-- would it be possible to outfit a cool-looking Old Car with most of the necessary good stuff of a modern car and get the best of both worlds or is that prohibitively expensive?

BarristaSelmy
Oct 10, 2012

Jastiger posted:

I will as you run into me with your rust bucket and have your chest cavity explode, and I have a slight bruise from the airbag and modern safety features and crumple zones.


If you are driving a late model Honda you might wish you were in that rust bucket.

quote:

Takata Corp and Honda Motor Co were hit Monday with a lawsuit over an air bag linked to the death last month of a woman in Florida, the latest legal issue for the companies as they continue to recall millions of vehicles for the faulty part.

Takata air bags are the target of a U.S. safety investigation that started earlier this year over the risk that they could explode during an accident, spraying metal shards. More than 16 million vehicles made by nearly a dozen different automakers have been recalled globally over the problematic parts since 2008.

Tran’s death is the most recent of four in the U.S. known to be linked to Takata air bags in Honda vehicles. Three of those deaths, including Tran’s, were in Honda Accords, the lawsuit said. Honda has also identified a fifth air bag-related fatality in Malaysia.

Carol Pizzamom
Jul 13, 2006

a bear you feed is a bear and a steed

mind the walrus posted:

So tell someone who doesn't know dick about cars something-- would it be possible to outfit a cool-looking Old Car with most of the necessary good stuff of a modern car and get the best of both worlds or is that prohibitively expensive?

It is 100% possible to take the panels and frame of an old awesome car and turn it into either a preposterous 800 horsepower beast, or just a nice car with a modern powertrain and suspension, tubeframe chassis if necessary, but this is stupid for three reasons

Reason 1 is you lose the properties of the car that make it interesting, such as the weirdness of some old engines, their unique sounds, and the feel of the car
Reason 2 is you're hacking up a classic, this isn't a big deal if they made a huge amount of the car but it's bad if the car is rare and was in repairable condition
Reason 3 is yes, it's expensive as poo poo

les fleurs du mall
Jun 30, 2014

by LadyAmbien
non-autists perceive value beyond the objective, OP

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice
i drive an eighties Benz w/ just under 150k mi that will still be on the road when new cars rolling off the line today are being hauled into the junkyard...there's a couple new cars that i wouldnt mind owning (ie. Fiesta ST, Abarth, BRZ, new Miata) but gently caress car payments, depreciation, and high insurance premiums



to many more years you beautiful, bourgeois, boxy bitch

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Carol Pizzamom posted:

It is 100% possible to take the panels and frame of an old awesome car and turn it into either a preposterous 800 horsepower beast, or just a nice car with a modern powertrain and suspension, tubeframe chassis if necessary, but this is stupid for three reasons

Reason 1 is you lose the properties of the car that make it interesting, such as the weirdness of some old engines, their unique sounds, and the feel of the car
Reason 2 is you're hacking up a classic, this isn't a big deal if they made a huge amount of the car but it's bad if the car is rare and was in repairable condition
Reason 3 is yes, it's expensive as poo poo

1 sounds pretty spergy to be honest although I do understand why that matters and is important for posterity's sake, 2 could be solved by making a custom chassis/panels/frame in the look of an older car, but yeah no matter what it all sounds expensive as poo poo.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i bought a 2014 car and it is way better than the 2003 and the 1999 cars I had previously

I couldn't even imagine being in a car from 40 years ago no matter what it looked like. how would my bluetooth connect to the surround sound speaker system?

You Are A Werewolf
Apr 26, 2010

Black Gold!

Spanish Manlove posted:

here's a picture of me carpooling to work:



Psch, amateur. I'm every car and driver in this film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz4AmeSApBE&hd=1


Also, every time that Bel-Air crash video in the OP gets posted, it's like no one ever notices there's no drivetrain in the Bel-Air and the chassis is pretty much rust to begin with (notice the orange dust during impact). They just gussied up the car for the video, just like back in the day when the news strapped explosives to Chevy trucks (I think) to have footage of them exploding like a Michael Bay film in a T-bone collision because that's where the gas tanks were for ratings.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
I enjoy spending less money to keep my Old Volvo running than you're monthly car payment, O.P.

edit: the 240 cost $2100 and i've spent far less than that on oil and parts and a :krad: stereo. it's never left me stranded anywhere and is likely to keep going for a few hundred thousand more miles unlike ur plastic new garbage car

atomicthumbs fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Nov 25, 2014

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Leroy Diplowski posted:

gently caress you, old cars are cool and fun to drive. Here is a picture of my old car. It cost what 3 payments on a new Kia would cost.



bitchin quad sealed beams

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

FordPRefectLL posted:

i have a 1997 volvo 960 station wagon and it owns and i almost never have to spend money on it

make sure u change the timing belt according to the schedule or you will learn the lesson my dad did when he didn't change his 960's timing belt according to the schedule

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



new cars are all hideously ugly with terrible visibility, i will continue to buy old sports cars, thanks

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

TOILETLORD posted:

my favorite thing is seeing some of the 90's cars that were still built out of thick rear end steel hit new cars with a million plastic parts.

my dad was driving my 240 (see above post) and a woman backed into him and then drove away without exchanging information. she destroyed her bumper and crumpled his fender a little. $900 bumper replacement vs. finding a PDR guy or just bolting a $30 fender from the junkyard on it lol

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

a starwar betamax posted:

that car is ok but the stupid oldtimy instagram filter makes me want to punch the poo poo out of you

here try mine



i used a medium format film camera that's older than the car to take this, so it cost $0.75

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Cubey posted:

new cars are all hideously ugly with terrible visibility, i will continue to buy old sports cars, thanks

also this. lmao new cars have to have fuckin cameras and TVs mounted in them because driving them is like driving a tank. tank but no thanks

mind the walrus posted:

So tell someone who doesn't know dick about cars something-- would it be possible to outfit a cool-looking Old Car with most of the necessary good stuff of a modern car and get the best of both worlds or is that prohibitively expensive?

what is "necessary" in a new car to you? you can get a radio with bluetooth, if that's what you mean.

Francis Baconator
Jul 11, 2008

Thanks for the avatar man!

Spanish Manlove posted:

Old cars are cool, you can't beat cool with things like "safety features" and "maths" you pessimistic bitchlord
Never thought it was possible, but I am 100% with Manlove on this one.

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atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.


A Good Car, but: it's slow. My dad drives it now and i drive this one:

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