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panzertape posted:A bit offtopic: wasnt there Persona V teasered a while ago? Is there already a release date? Yup, during a big Sony Japan conference a few months ago. "2015". The theme color is red and it probably starts with a dork getting off a train and things getting weird, a first for the series. Also something about oppression. PS3 and PS4. There you're all caught up. E: Persona 5 Trailer (PS4): http://youtu.be/Bt4w4TSWC9E
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Lunar Suite posted:Do sub-persona HP and SP autorestore or did I get that wrong? So with a high enough sub-Persona SP I can spam even more Hama and Mudo? They sure do and you sure can. Think of your sub-persona's HP and SP total as a budget that you're allocated for each fight: you can go over budget for FOEs or to get yourself out of a tough situation, but you should usually be able to get through normal battles with minimal HP/SP loss.
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Nov 29, 2014 13:17
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What level do I want to be before facing the Queen of Hearts on hard mode? I've got everyone at level 9 and just lost my first attempt to SP exhaustion.
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Nov 29, 2014 13:33
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:Yup, during a big Sony Japan conference a few months ago. "2015". The theme color is red and it probably starts with a dork getting off a train and things getting weird, a first for the series. Also something about oppression. PS3 and PS4. There you're all caught up. Whew thanks a lot mate. What an info shot.
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Nov 29, 2014 13:34
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Probably oughtta put something in the OP that says "use whoever you want" because of the sub persona system. I mean it really doesn't seem to matter hardly at all. Also why are none of you using Akihiko t 
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Is there a Japanese wiki that has complete persona data? I'd like to see what skills they learn before deciding which to transfer during fusion, and especially be able to tell which navi skills any of them get. For anyone still in the first or second dungeon, Shiisaa is an excellent persona for your navigator. I can't remember which ones they are, but I think it has ~3 navi skills innate or by leveling, so you can stack a bunch on it by fusing one. Edit: Here's a page with a list of all the sub-personas, with stats and skills. Armor-Piercing fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Nov 29, 2014 |
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Nov 29, 2014 16:31
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:Put Kanji on the front line a bit into the second Labyrinth, holy goddamn he hits like a truck. Once you unlock the stat-swap accessories, you can give him an En-Ag reverse ring and he'll hit like a lightning fast truck. It's amazing.  ZeusJupitar posted:What level do I want to be before facing the Queen of Hearts on hard mode? I've got everyone at level 9 and just lost my first attempt to SP exhaustion. I grinded for about two hours and did it at level 11. I think you can handle fighting the FOEs at this point as long as you play defensively, and beating each one gives you a sub-Persona around level 30. You should also consider swapping in a more physical-oriented character, since they don't rely as much on SP to deal damage.
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Nov 29, 2014 17:13
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ZeusJupitar posted:What level do I want to be before facing the Queen of Hearts on hard mode? I've got everyone at level 9 and just lost my first attempt to SP exhaustion. I did it at 9 on my second attempt with the P4 team.
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Nov 29, 2014 17:36
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There's a nav skill that does 20% heal at the end of battle - do I want that on my labyrinth navigator or my battle navigator? I'm not sure when it kicks in. Or if it matters.
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Nov 29, 2014 18:01
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Oh man, the second dungeon's boss is beautiful. Goddamn Atlus, you outdid yourselves on that one. DID YOU HEAR THE VOICE OF GAWD? BELIEVE, AND YOU WILL BE SAAAAVED! IF NOT, THE SIN IS THIIINE!
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Nov 29, 2014 18:05
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StarkRavingMad posted:There's a nav skill that does 20% heal at the end of battle - do I want that on my labyrinth navigator or my battle navigator? I'm not sure when it kicks in. Or if it matters. Battle. You can see it restored immediately as the battle ends.
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Nov 29, 2014 18:14
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I just got to the first dungeon boss and man the introduction of the P3 cast was rad as hell. "Oh poo poo I'm exhausted and can't go on" and then out of nowhere Mass Destruction kicks in.
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Nov 29, 2014 18:22
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Strange Quark posted:Battle. You can see it restored immediately as the battle ends. Thanks!
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Nov 29, 2014 18:39
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Didn't played for long, but so far, I like what I see a lot. Lot of banter, the gameplay is way better than EO1, the only one in the serie I played. Sub-personae in particular is a cool idea. When can I swith difficulty mode, though? Normal mode's too much of a breeze for now.
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Nov 29, 2014 18:50
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Iceclaw posted:Didn't played for long, but so far, I like what I see a lot. Lot of banter, the gameplay is way better than EO1, the only one in the serie I played. Sub-personae in particular is a cool idea. When can I swith difficulty mode, though? Normal mode's too much of a breeze for now. Right now. System -> Config.
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Nov 29, 2014 18:52
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On Normal, the drop from second FOE in Wonderland just gave me access to an armor that flat-out doubled my defense from 45ish to 99. 8000yen a pop but that's what P-Spots are for. e: The high-level sub personas aren't as out-of-range when playing on normal and slogging through an FOE but still a welcome break. I was using bottom-tier skills so long I got flashbacks to Persona 3. e2: Oh god those SP costs.  I'll take my piddly Zio back, thanks.e3: I am loving the group date cafe dungeon. Troll.exe is out in full force. Aigis
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Nov 29, 2014 19:05
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Baltazar Robotnik posted:Right now. System -> Config. To finish the thought, you can't do it from inside a dungeon, you have to do it from the out of dungeon menu. Seriously though, really happy that it's adjustable.
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Nov 29, 2014 19:14
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There's an FOE that spams Mamudoon and Evil smile and Diarahan. You have to beat it for a quest, ugh.
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Nov 29, 2014 19:28
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Artix posted:Oh man, the second dungeon's boss is beautiful. Goddamn Atlus, you outdid yourselves on that one. I was going to post about his rad VO too. I like how mechanically it's a throw back to one of the later bosses in nocturne.
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Nov 29, 2014 19:29
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Tired Moritz posted:There's an FOE that spams Mamudoon and Evil smile and Diarahan. You have to beat it for a quest, ugh. Silence Circle is your friend. So's the Navi ability which cures all ailments and binds on the party for 2 bars (Healing Rain?). The couple times I've fought them it didn't cast Diarahan until very late in the fight, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out it casts it on preset turns.
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Nov 29, 2014 19:45
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Len posted:I just got to the first dungeon boss and man the introduction of the P3 cast was rad as hell. "Oh poo poo I'm exhausted and can't go on" and then out of nowhere Mass Destruction kicks in. It would probably have been more effective if you weren't then made to fight another round of Card Soldiers with a party that's less effective than the one you were just using.
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Nov 29, 2014 19:56
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ZeusJupitar posted:It would probably have been more effective if you weren't then made to fight another round of Card Soldiers with a party that's less effective than the one you were just using. I figured they were fine seeing as they scale to the main characters level when you get them. I had literally no trouble at all but then again it was the P4 cast that swooped in for the "rescue".
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Nov 29, 2014 20:02
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I figured they were fine seeing as they scale to the main characters level when you get them. I had literally no trouble at all but then again it was the P4 cast that swooped in for the "rescue". My situation was going from ripping through the trash with instakills and ma- spells to plinking away with single target elemental spells. Kind of daft to complain about I know, but it did spoil the moment a bit.
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Nov 29, 2014 20:10
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Accidentally fought a FOE in the second dungeon..and.. it was super easy! I've been reverse fusing level 26+ persona's I got from the first dungeon's FOE's and just mopping up everything with them 
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Nov 29, 2014 20:25
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Yeah, I somehow figured I'd get Teddie.
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Nov 29, 2014 20:47
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Got to the end of the 2nd dungeon with Chie. I'm doing my best to make this as awkward as possible as I'm the P3 guy. I chose the pick up option and I'm losing it because he has this mile long blank stare plastered on him at all times.
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Toadsniff posted:Accidentally fought a FOE in the second dungeon..and.. it was super easy! I've been reverse fusing level 26+ persona's I got from the first dungeon's FOE's and just mopping up everything with them yeah those gold cupid dudes aren't really too tough. having a weakness makes a big difference. Beef Waifu posted:Yeah, I somehow figured I'd get Teddie.  
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I figured they were fine seeing as they scale to the main characters level when you get them. I had literally no trouble at all but then again it was the P4 cast that swooped in for the "rescue". They actually always start at level 12.
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Nov 29, 2014 21:08
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I don't remember Teddie being such a creeper in P4, in PQ he's even more broey than Brosuke is. Seriously Teddie stfu for like two seconds about how cute Rei-chan is uuuggghhh.
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Nov 29, 2014 21:12
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I got past the second dungeon and man was that an easy boss fight if not funny. I'm at the point where I've gotten a hold on everything and the game's like... still not fun. I'll give it until the end of the game before I finally decide whether I like it or not, but I am not very hopeful.
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Oh man, I was about ready to give up when (first dungeon boss) the Queen summoned a fifth set of card soldiers after I'd already exhausted most of my SP, but then Yukari pulled the gently caress through with her reaction attack and sniped the boss for the rest of her health.
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Nov 29, 2014 21:31
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Honestly, PQ's biggest weakness is when you take away the most fun part of EO (making a completely customized party) you're not left with..much. The humor and stuff is good but I feel the gameplay really suffers from the characters being built like in Persona rather than getting skill trees to mess with. Kind of a shame but oh well.
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Nov 29, 2014 21:35
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So for the EO vets in this thread, how do the difficulty levels in this compare to other EO games?
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Beef Waifu posted:I got past the second dungeon and man was that an easy boss fight if not funny. I'm at the point where I've gotten a hold on everything and the game's like... still not fun. I'll give it until the end of the game before I finally decide whether I like it or not, but I am not very hopeful. Ibram Gaunt posted:Honestly, PQ's biggest weakness is when you take away the most fun part of EO (making a completely customized party) you're not left with..much. The humor and stuff is good but I feel the gameplay really suffers from the characters being built like in Persona rather than getting skill trees to mess with. Kind of a shame but oh well. I agree with both of these things pretty much. I think the Sub-Persona fits the game thematically much better, and in a Persona game you definitely need to switch up your loadouts and abilities, but for an EO-type game I really want EO-type skill trees and the like. As it stands all my characters are nearly interchangeable due to the Sub-Persona system and it really doesn't make me feel like I am having much character growth. I have a ton of party members to choose from and I like more than 5 of them, but nothing is really influencing my choice on who to bring in any game mechanics way and it just leaves me feeling like I don't care who I bring. The gameplay feels more sluggish than any other EO which is kind of impressive because EO isn't exactly a fast game. Things feel way too HP-sponge-y and it just kinda makes me eh on the game as a whole which is really disappointing. Also, no Labrys. It is a crossover game, you can add in Labrys for whatever reason you could have come up with. Why didn't you Atlus, why?
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:So for the EO vets in this thread, how do the difficulty levels in this compare to other EO games? Untold Expert was probably the hardest the EO games got. So far this isn't as rough as that, even on Risky.
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Nov 29, 2014 21:42
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Labrys and Sho not being in this game is also a big negative, yes.
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Nov 29, 2014 21:43
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I'll probably still try to beat it but I should have chosen the P3 cast because I just can't loving take anyone from Persona 4 anymore because they all looped from being endearing to annoying, except Marie who is intentionally bad, therefore good.
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all that said, i like how they've changed up foes so they aren't all either "patrol a set route and ignore the player" or "chase the player". i've only played eo4 and untold but dodging foes in pq actually feels like a puzzle where it really didn't in those games, and i hope they keep that up in later installments.
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You tried, step aside, you're denied!
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This game really have cool boss battles though. I wish you can battle them again.
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