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Daniel Bryan posted:Reigns was one first place vote from winning, and had more first place votes overall.
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i (purposely) left reigns entirely off my ballot. i singlehandedly saved roman reigns. will accept payment in merch
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I was pretty surprised to see ROH/NJPW's Toronto PPV get nominated for Best Show and not the NYC one. I was at the Toronto one and I still thought NYC was better.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I was pretty surprised to see ROH/NJPW's Toronto PPV get nominated for Best Show and not the NYC one. I was at the Toronto one and I still thought NYC was better. Yeah, that was one of the most puzzling albeit minor results to me as well.
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Jan 22, 2015 16:27
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flashy_mcflash posted:I was pretty surprised to see ROH/NJPW's Toronto PPV get nominated for Best Show and not the NYC one. I was at the Toronto one and I still thought NYC was better. Agreed. Only thing I can think of is... maybe a lot of people got mixed up on which one was which?
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Bunch of Canadians voted for "their" show, probably
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There's a common internet thing where people who go to a specific live event (music/sports) immediately think they witnessed the best show ever because "I WAS THERE, MAN!".
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EugeneJ posted:There's a common internet thing where people who go to a specific live event (music/sports) immediately think they witnessed the best show ever because "I WAS THERE, MAN!". So where were the NYC fans in the voting? I'm not saying that Stephen Harper stacked the Observer Awards, but the pieces fit.
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flashy_mcflash posted:So where were the NYC fans in the voting? They're not stupid
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I'm so proud that WON readers voted my first live event as the worst wrestling show in the world in 2014.
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Luigi Thirty posted:I'm so proud that WON readers voted my first live event as the worst wrestling show in the world in 2014. It wasn't even that terrible of a show, too. What's the last time WWE really had an absolute disaster of a show on the level of like, KOTR 95 (or pick a 99-00 WCW PPV, I guess)?
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Alain Post posted:It wasn't even that terrible of a show, too. What's the last time WWE really had an absolute disaster of a show on the level of like, KOTR 95 (or pick a 99-00 WCW PPV, I guess)? December to Dismember 2006
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Jan 22, 2015 18:02
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It was easily the worst show I saw all year aside from 99% of raws.
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I wonder if Daniel Bryan is sadly looking at all his Best Technical Wrestler trophies lined up on his shelf, a single tear rolling down his cheek thinking about what could have been.
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triplexpac posted:I wonder if Daniel Bryan is sadly looking at all his Best Technical Wrestler trophies lined up on his shelf, a single tear rolling down his cheek thinking about what could have been. Do they even get anything for winning the Observer awards? Knowing Dave, I assume they get a xeroxed certificate in plaintext.
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dsriggs posted:Do they even get anything for winning the Observer awards? Knowing Dave, I assume they get a xeroxed certificate in plaintext. Dot Matrix banners.
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Cardboard Box posted:most overrated/underrated really needs to be changed to pushed because thats how it's always used Pretty much. No one is "overrating" Kane, it's pretty much acknowledged that he's at the end of his career and sucks. But he is definitely being used too much for that role. Kane should not be a WWE championship challenger or anywhere near the main event of a PPV these days.
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oh man did anyone check tnamecca yet edit: oh it's not a forum? i guess theyre not likely to report on it then...
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Spermgod posted:oh man did anyone check tnamecca yet Amazingly, the awards haven't even been brought up over there. A lot of general Dave hate, though.
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Cardboard Box posted:most overrated/underrated really needs to be changed to pushed because thats how it's always used Tato posted:Pretty much. No one is "overrating" Kane, it's pretty much acknowledged that he's at the end of his career and sucks. But he is definitely being used too much for that role. Kane should not be a WWE championship challenger or anywhere near the main event of a PPV these days. The official definition is basically most over and under pushed anyway. Big Dave posted:
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The confusion comes about because people don't realise it means how the promoters/bookers rate them, not the audience/readers.
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I was surprised Royal Rumble was the third worst show of the year. I didn't think it was that bad.
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sportsgenius86 posted:I was surprised Royal Rumble was the third worst show of the year. I didn't think it was that bad. I th-DANIEL BRYAN!-ink it migh-DANIEL BRYAN!-t have had less to- DANIEL BRYAN!- do with the show-DANIEL BRYAN!- than with the-DANIEL BRYAN!- booking.
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Spermgod posted:oh man did anyone check tnamecca yet They should be delighted that impact has risen from the depths of worst weekly show. Proof that TNA is on the rise once more!
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Gaz-L posted:I th-DANIEL BRYAN!-ink it migh-DANIEL BRYAN!-t have had less to- DANIEL BRYAN!- do with the show-DANIEL BRYAN!- than with the-DANIEL BRYAN!- booking. TBH Bryan/Wyatt was really the only great match. Cena/Orton wasn't bad in-ring but the fans absolutely killed it.
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Alain Post posted:TBH Bryan/Wyatt was really the only great match. Cena/Orton wasn't bad in-ring but the fans absolutely killed it. I'll say that the fans were the only thing saving that match.
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Cena-Orton and the Rumble were both fine, they just were NOT what the crowd wanted to see that night.
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81sidewinder posted:Bryan/Wyatt was a fringe MotY candidate and Roman made a big step forward at the Rumble. It was very flawed, but did a few things really well. the crowd would have completely lost their mind if Roman had won last year, it's the only plausible thing that would have saved the show to them. wrestling is a fickle beast
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Nerokerubina posted:the crowd would have completely lost their mind if Not Batista had won last year, it's the only plausible thing that would have saved the show to them. wrestling is a fickle beast because it really could've been almost anybody in that last 2, tbh
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dsriggs posted:because it really could've been almost anybody in that last 2, tbh it is super revisionist history to not acknowledge how over Roman was this time last year with internet dorks and casual fans alike. he won the observer's most improved. people were legitimately suggesting he should break the streak.
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The Shield in general was super-over and breaking them up is probably one of the worst booking decisions WWE's made in the last decade.
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Nerokerubina posted:it is super revisionist history to not acknowledge how over Roman was this time last year with internet dorks and casual fans alike. he won the observer's most improved. people were legitimately suggesting he should break the streak. It's not much worse than pretending the crowd in the building gave a poo poo about Roman & his eliminations until they realised that either him or Batista would be in the main event of Wrestlemania & chose a side. The Shield was over as gently caress, yes. That night, not so much.
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Great White Hope posted:The Shield in general was super-over and breaking them up is probably one of the worst booking decisions WWE's made in the last decade. I think it might have worked if they hadn't bungled the Rollins/Ambrose feud so badly at the end. I mean, assuming (and that's a big assumption) Reigns works out in the end, they break up a tag team and get a top heel, top babyface, and a near-top face/tweener. That's exactly what you want to get out of breaking up a tag team, it's just that Reigns' push has been terrible and they stuck Ambrose in an awful feud that hurt his heat.
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