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Previous thread - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3678149 *HELP SANCTION MMA IN NEW YORK http://www.mmafacts.com  We are finally out of the woods. A stacked PPV, a new division gets set, a card on big Fox, and a Brazil card with people you've heard of. This is going to be a good month for MMA so get in. Important champions -  Heavyweight Champion Cain Velasquez  Interim Heavyweight Champion Fabricio Werdum  Light Heavyweight Champion Jon "Bones" Jones  Middleweight Champion Chris "The All-American" Weidman  Welterweight Champion Johny "Bigg Rigg" Hendricks  Lightweight Champion Anthony "Showtime" Pettis  Featherweight Champion Jose "Scarface" Aldo  Bantamweight Champion TJ Dillashaw  Flyweight Champion Demetrious "Mighty Mouse" Johnson  Women's Bantamweight Champion "Rowdy" Ronda Rousey  Women's Strawweight Champion ???? (Probably Rose Namajunas though) Upcoming Events: UFC 181 - December 6 TUF 20 Finale - December 12 UFC on FOX 13 - December 13 UFC Fight Night 58 - December 20 Credible news sources: http://www.mmabuzzsaw.com/ http://www.mmajunkie.com http://www.fightopinion.com http://www.mmapayout.com http://www.mixedmartialarts.com Yahoo! Sports MMA http://www.mmaweekly.com http://www.mmamania.com http://www.mmarated.com http://www.cagepotato.com/ http://www.f4wonline.com/ Other news: http://www.sherdog.com http://www.bloodyelbow.com Related threads: Best/Worst of 2014 Ask/Tell me about Martial Arts Bellator Goonweight Grand Prix Boxing training thread Combat sports Q&A Grappling thread Other: Sherdog Fight Finder Unified rules of MMA http://www.fightmetric.com MMA Fantasy league(join SA Goons) MMA IRC chat room at #mma on SynIRC.net Welcome to MMA, here's the history of the sport Comparison of MMA betting lines Understanding Sports Betting Cool UFC galleries GIFs Ariel Helwani's YouTube channel Entrance_Music.xls LobsterMobster's MMA blog BeanFried's MMA blog Lord Of Space posted:my good god if mma could land a proper NYC venue I will eat a hat DumbWhiteGuy fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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The straweight champion better end up being someone cool. We're pretty much guaranteed a final of "someone cool" vs "someone not that cool" at this point.
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Dec 1, 2014 17:30
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CommonShore posted:The straweight champion better end up being someone cool. We're pretty much guaranteed a final of "someone cool" vs "someone not that cool" at this point.  Yeah, it's going to be Carla vs Rose/Jojo/Randa
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Dec 1, 2014 17:42
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:Previous thread - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3678149 Weidman will have beaten everyone in this picture by 2018, cementing himself as the No. 2 p4p GOAT (behind Neil Magny)
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Dec 1, 2014 17:52
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CommonShore posted:The straweight champion better end up being someone cool. We're pretty much guaranteed a final of "someone cool" vs "someone not that cool" at this point. I'm rooting for Randa. That woman is a silent killer.
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Dec 1, 2014 18:11
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Bluedeanie posted:Weidman will have beaten everyone in this picture by 2018, cementing himself as the No. 2 p4p GOAT (behind Neil Magny) Weidman vs Rousey being the ultimate goal of putting the two on every card together makes a lot of sense now
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Dec 1, 2014 18:16
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quote:If you look at any MMA fighter, you will see them walk down to the cage decked out in sponsor logos and when they enter the cage, the banner will also be clamoured with even more. The UFC is looking to turn away from the norm. http://mmasucka.com/2014/12/01/ufc-uniform-deal-means-end-cage-athlete-sponsorship I've never heard of MMASucka but uniform talks have been going on for a long time, if this is true its a bad thing for fighters
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Dec 1, 2014 18:35
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DumbWhiteGuy posted:Yeah, it's going to be Carla vs Rose/Jojo/Randa I'd be kinda surprised if it wasn't Carla vs. Rose, but I also had no idea who Randa was before this, so who knows. All of the women left in the bracket opposite Carla's are pretty cool, but as someone else pointed out, Rose winning also means more Pat Barry on my TV doing things other than receiving brain damage. Speaking of brain damage, thanks to the OP for reminding me that Overeem/Struve is real, because there's no way that fight isn't funny, but it'll probably be the kind of funny you feel a little bad about.
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Dec 1, 2014 18:44
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Also how good and cool is it to see the fights in a movie theater? A local one is doing it and for reasonable ticket prices, my only concern is missing the Faber fight.
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Dec 1, 2014 18:46
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I'll admit, my interest in MMA the past few months has dipped a bit. In 2013, I bought nearly every PPV. That includes watching it at a sports bar or actually staying in and ordering it and watching with friends (I do this for the big cards that I want to watch without bros screaming in my ears. Mostly Weidman fights). This year I've watched 3 pay per views. TJ/Barao (I was bored or else I wouldn't have even gotten this one) Weidman/Machida, and DJ/Carasaio ( I like Alvarez being a Philly guy myself and what can I say? I've been on board the McGregor hype train since his fight with Holloway.) I think FightPass, while useful, has really watered down the pay per view cards. These cards often have main events that are worth watching (as say, an undercard fight on a PPV) but aren't good enough that I'll plan my day around them. Thankfully, shits about to pick up. A few months back I pointed to December as the time that the UFC would kick rear end again, and now it's here. A PPV with 2 good title fights is Saturday. JDS fights a week after that. Bones/DC will finally happen in January, Weidman skull fucks Vitor in Feburary, and to top it all off we get to see Nick Diaz and Anderson Silva. I can't even think of an outcome that won't be hilarious/entertaining in that one. Long story short, I'm so loving happy that I can go back to being excited for MMA on an almost weekly basis starting at this point through the beginning of next year. Fingers are crossed that injuries don't gently caress it up.
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Dec 1, 2014 19:05
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Machida has a large head.
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Dec 1, 2014 19:55
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There have been a lot of people complaining about all the bad fights and bad fighters and in the same breath saying they don't watch any of them. Y'all are missing a lot of good fighters and good fights because you think anyone that isn't Nick Diaz or Weidman must be horrible. vvv Agreed Tezcatlipoca fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Dec 1, 2014 |
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Dec 1, 2014 19:56
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Nifft posted:Machida has a large head. The better to handsome you, my dear.
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Dec 1, 2014 20:01
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when machida was a fat guy with a unibrow fighting in japan, shogun was a model. the tables have turned so severely.
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Dec 1, 2014 20:10
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Tezcatlipoca posted:There have been a lot of people complaining about all the bad fights and bad fighters and in the same breath saying they don't watch any of them. Y'all are missing a lot of good fighters and good fights because you think anyone that isn't Nick Diaz or Weidman must be horrible. i've watched every single ufc fight since like 2007. everyone is bad.
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Dec 1, 2014 20:12
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Triticum Guzzler posted:when machida was a fat guy with a unibrow fighting in japan, shogun was a model. the tables have turned so severely. 
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Dec 1, 2014 20:14
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Triticum Guzzler posted:when machida was a fat guy with a unibrow fighting in japan, shogun was a model. the tables have turned so severely. Monstrous lies. These two photos were both taken exactly 4 days ago.   I don't know about you, but I know which one I'd rather
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Dec 1, 2014 21:01
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Tezcatlipoca posted:There have been a lot of people complaining about all the bad fights and bad fighters and in the same breath saying they don't watch any of them. Y'all are missing a lot of good fighters and good fights because you think anyone that isn't Nick Diaz or Weidman must be horrible. 2014 was the year of the card that looked lovely but ended up being awesome. Also Mark Hunt was in a title fight and we got to watch videos of him walking around Mexico all depressed getting his hair done.
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Dec 1, 2014 21:10
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david carmichael posted:i've watched every single ufc fight since like 2007. everyone is bad. Jake Shields will return, fear not.
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Dec 1, 2014 21:24
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Jake Shields will return in: The Man With The Significant Strike (Just One, Though)
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Dec 1, 2014 21:38
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I was busy and away from TV/Internet for most of this summer and found my interest in following the UFC was really low even when I had a chance to catch cards. Recently, I decided to commit to watching every card again, even the lovely ones, and that's all it took to get me really excited about fights again. If you want to care about fights, watch fights. MMA is not a fun sport to just follow online
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Dec 2, 2014 00:29
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Dec 2, 2014 00:33
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Just watch the good cards and avoid the bad ones. Or just watch the good fight(s) on a bad card It's not rocket science. UFC Fight Night: Shogun vs. St. Preux was an excellent example. I watched the depressing main event and nothing else and I don't feel like I missed anything.
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Dec 2, 2014 00:36
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lucky shot plus the ref was holding the shorts to defend the takedown
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Dec 2, 2014 00:40
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It was actually a good sprawl with a whizzer.
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Dec 2, 2014 00:47
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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I like watching fights with real people. Most of my friends don't care much for MMA these days so its a lot harder to convince anyone to split the PPV cost.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:07
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:http://mmasucka.com/2014/12/01/ufc-uniform-deal-means-end-cage-athlete-sponsorship I suppose this depends on a few things. If they end up having uniform sponsors and giving fighters a cut of that revenue it could be ok. Maybe the UFC is looking to move to a uniform with names of fighters on the back so they can move to a jersey sales model. For dudes fighting on the undercard or beginning of the main card a big part of their income has to be that sponsor money. They're going to have to offset that somehow. No way can some of these guys lose that money. It would have to add up to the tens of thousands.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:23
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Given the frequency at which stories come out about sponsors not paying fighters, this will probably benefit the little guys more than the big guys.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:33
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CommonShore posted:Given the frequency at which stories come out about sponsors not paying fighters, this will probably benefit the little guys more than the big guys. Nah the big guys are getting their own Nike shoes, under armour ads and in Ronda's case appearing in movies. not to mention ppvs and shilling on instagrams. The big guys probably won't feel this. Sure losing Nike money and poo poo won't be great but they're not going to be having to do extra coaching giggs and seminars.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:38
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BlindSite posted:Nah the big guys are getting their own Nike shoes, under armour ads and in Ronda's case appearing in movies. not to mention ppvs and shilling on instagrams. The big guys probably won't feel this. Sure losing Nike money and poo poo won't be great but they're not going to be having to do extra coaching giggs and seminars. Right. But the little guys who have had trouble finding sponsors who don't cheat them will benefit. Hence it will benefit the little guys more than it benefits the big guys who get those things.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:44
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CommonShore posted:Right. But the little guys who have had trouble finding sponsors who don't cheat them will benefit. Hence it will benefit the little guys more than it benefits the big guys who get those things. The difference is though the big guns don't need the dynamic fastner logo on their rear end so they can train full-time and pay for dolce to tell them not to be a fatty the little guys need that money so they can put fuel in the cars and buy chicken and rice to eat. Nominally the big guys lose more. In terms of impact on their life the little guys are going to feel this so much more.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:52
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I like walkout shirts, it'd be kind of sad to me if they went to just BIGFOOT 00 on the back of some UFC jersey.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:54
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BlindSite posted:The difference is though the big guns don't need the dynamic fastner logo on their rear end so they can train full-time and pay for dolce to tell them not to be a fatty the little guys need that money so they can put fuel in the cars and buy chicken and rice to eat. You don't think that the UFC will be compensating them? I was just kind of assuming that they would be.
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Dec 2, 2014 01:54
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it'll be cool dudes when someone brings it up to Dana he'll talk about locker room bonuses and reference what some guy who challenged for a title made and refer to a 36 year old man as "kid" and then maybe insult a journalist later on twitter that night. business as usual, what's best for the sport
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Dec 2, 2014 01:58
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CommonShore posted:You don't think that the UFC will be compensating them? I was just kind of assuming that they would be. i wholeheartedly believe the casino owners who hate unions and the company president who blew money on both a saber tooth tiger skull and a bible cut into the shape of a gun have the financial interests of their fighters somewhere in the top 30 items on their priority list, maybe between "sushi for dinner" and "fuckin' sick katana, bro"
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Dec 2, 2014 02:00
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Yeah when you mentioned "locker room bonuses" it began to click for me. Arbitrary dispensation, consolidate power over the fighters. Really they're one step away from paying their fighters in scrip which can be redeemed for branded clothing and protein powder.
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Dec 2, 2014 02:02
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CommonShore posted:Yeah when you mentioned "locker room bonuses" it began to click for me. Arbitrary dispensation, consolidate power over the fighters. Really they're one step away from paying their fighters in scrip which can be redeemed for branded clothing and protein powder. Yea man, it's like they're almost being forced to fight against their own will... it's almost like ... human cockfighting.
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Dec 2, 2014 02:04
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I'm hopeful this whole thing, if it happens, will ramp up fighter union talks which will result in the Lorenzo Fertitta Memorial Prep Point after his organs experience a rage induced HGH rush and explode
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Dec 2, 2014 02:06
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I wonder if the best career path for a young prospect now is to avoid going to the UFC and instead do what Askren, Alvarez, Melendez, McGregor, and Rousey have done - fight in smaller organizations until the hype train is screaming, journalists at post-fight pressers are asking questions about you, and you're getting in twitter wars with top-ten fighters before having been signed. Only then sign a UFC contract as an established fighter with some of your own drawing power.
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Take the Dan Henderson career path of uh, well I like wrestling so I think I'm gonna do that for a while then fight until you're 60
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