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oh right it's tonally serious *watches melty face hacker man put his fake face back on* hmm yes i like bond but lol at people trying to pretend it's not dumb entertainment like star wars or something
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VideoGames posted:i just remembered that Casino has that fantastic parkour chase in it. goddamn that was some incredible action. its nice when they do something not involving vehicles and massive spectacular over the top rubbish I just imagine the stuntman who executed that jump developed crippling alcoholism when he saw the finished movie in the theater https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6iksKTURlA
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pretty soft girl posted:I just imagine the stuntman who executed that jump developed crippling alcoholism when he saw the finished movie in the theater GODDAMN i never tire of watching that stunt and their version without the whistle but with the music is WAY better. Golden Gun has a special place in my heart for being my very first bond film. saw it as a kid with my old man who sneaked me in so as not to let on to my mum.
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Even the lovely Bond movies are pretty great. The only one that comes close to unwatchable is License to Kill.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Baccarat is also much harder to get your head around the rules than Poker I think. Totally see why they changed it. Even though baccarat has a much deeper level of betting, it's confusing and archaic in a period of history that had nearly 24 hour coverage of poker on sports networks. I think it was a good choice for accessibility to the viewer, otherwise there would have been at least a 10 minute tutorial to explain how baccarat betting works.
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i'd pay money to have a live action remake of nick fury riding that motorcycle through the side of the helicarrier shooting wildly into the air.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Baccarat is also much harder to get your head around the rules than Poker I think. Totally see why they changed it. Chemin-de-fer is actually pretty simple, it's like blackjack except going to 9 instead of 21, and the betting scheme isn't that complicated, especially since in the book's gmabling climax it's just Bond and Le Chiffre calling banco and going all-in against each other.
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I'm going to blame collective memory suppression for nobody pointing out View to a Kill as the obviously worst Bond Film, which is such a tragedy seeing as they had Walken as a villain
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while license and view certainly arent the best, they do have lot of great little moments in them. license - bond and M having a terse chat - bond's infiltration and covert ops in the bad guys gang - benicio del toro fight/death scene - the goddamn desert truck chase + climax view - all moore and macnee interactions - walken clearly having a whale of a time in every damned scene (even his insane death laugh) - the paris/eiffel towel car chase/foot chase - duran duran theme is excellent - i really like the golden gate bridge setting/set piece but die another day really is an utter stinker and definitely the highest contender for worst film. brosnan looks bored and annoyed almost all the way through. berry is insufferable. madonna...why. the theme. the weird korean to upper class white man change wtf
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VideoGames posted:while license and view certainly arent the best, they do have lot of great little moments in them. also license to kill has a great villain in Robert Davi and Desmond Llewelyn gets some rare but great scenes outside of the lab as far as brosnan looking bored and annoyed iirc he was under the impression that the movie was going to be a real back to basics Connery style flick and then it morphed into a piece of garbage so it doesn't surprise me that his irritation shows. evidently he was pretty upset when they didn't bring him back for a fifth one, it kind of blows that he got saddled with such terrible scripts. Even if he wasn't the greatest actor I always found him to be the most charming Bond- I bet his version of Bond would have been a great fit for the more serious Moore films like The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only: Still campy, but able to be grim and violent in the ways that Moore never seemed comfortable with. At least he still got Goldeneye and to a lesser extent Tomorrow Never Dies speaking of themes what are everyone's favorite bond themes? Live and Let Die is phenomenal and I always get pumped when it comes on the radio A View to a Kill is just perfect 80's cheese As much as it gets panned for being outdated before it was even released, I really like a-ha's The Living Daylights I don't care much for U2 or Tina Turner but Goldeneye is fantastic I own the View to a Kill and Living Daylights soundtracks on vinyl, they're pretty great. I enjoy when the main theme gets incorporated into the overall score, my biggest disappointment with Goldeneye is the horrific soundtrack
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pretty soft girl posted:speaking of themes what are everyone's favorite bond themes? OHMSS is pretty sweet.
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pretty soft girl posted:speaking of themes what are everyone's favorite bond themes? Nobody Does it Better is probably my favorite song. You Know My Name is probably my favorite Bond theme. E: even primo-era Radiohead likes it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfmQe_eBvrc Cosmik Slop fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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The Protagonist posted:I'm going to blame collective memory suppression for nobody pointing out View to a Kill as the obviously worst Bond Film, which is such a tragedy seeing as they had Walken as a villain Walken was totally wasted, I think Grace Jones the theme song are the only thing it has going for it, the whole time I watch it I'm always thinking "Why are you still doing this, Roger Moore?" Basically the same thing applies to Diamonds Are Forever. OHMSS was great and then they just followed it up with pure poo poo.
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Quantum was a visually incoherent, wretched shitpile but it did have one great Bond Moment in it. When they were in the opera and the bad guys are having a villains meeting where they all twirl their moustaches over the radio and Bond gets on one of the radios and goes, "Hello, this is James Bond. Most of you already know who I am, for those who don't, I am a psychopath who kills people for Her Majesty and I can hear every word you motherfuckers are saying" and they get up and leave and he photographs them, that was a legit cool Bond Uses Gadgets moment.
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I think one of the big strengths of the bond movies is even most of the really bad ones have a lot going for them which isn't something you can say for most bad movies, and as a series all of those things going for it add up to a sort of collective greatness even if no one single movie contains all of those elements I'd struggle to find much redeeming or entertaining in Thunderball, Moonraker, Die Another Day, or Quantum (which I found so forgettable I actually forgot about it until the poster above me mentioned it) but there are even individual moments of those flicks where I can say gently caress yeah jimmy bond even if they're turkeys otherwise
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FoolyCharged posted:OHMSS is pretty sweet. drat straight. the propellorheads remix is right up there with the original too. second favourite HAS to be Nobody Does it Better. i adore that track pretty soft girl posted:I bet his version of Bond would have been a great fit for the more serious Moore films like The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only: Still campy, but able to be grim and violent in the ways that Moore never seemed comfortable with. At least he still got Goldeneye and to a lesser extent Tomorrow Never Dies you seem to know bond like i do, so i take it you are aware that they originally approached Brosnan back when filming For Your Eyes Only and his wife was the bond girl in it? And Brosnan said he was too young? And weirdly the same thing happened to Dalton. they came along to him way early in the series and he also said he wasnt right at the time
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Also, Moore's one darkest moment (when he kills the silent antagonist in For Your Eyes Only after chasing him up mountain stairs while the bad guy drives the car) is probably one of his best bond moments of all time. that feels like a proper bond revenge and you can kind of see the whole Tracy Bond anger simmering
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VideoGames posted:drat straight. the propellorheads remix is right up there with the original too. I did know that they approached him when he was very young and he turned it down but I didn't realize it was for For Your Eyes Only. God drat, For Your Eyes Only with a young freshfaced Brosnan could have been really great On the otherhand young freshfaced Brosnan brought us this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXcgt6l_LcA
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Christoph Waltz fuckin' nothing, I'd vote for either Coogan or Brydon to be the next Bond villain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGRVw8Fc4HM
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Dec 5, 2014 01:22
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is it too late to correct wrongthinkers that thought skyfall was good? skyfall was complete and utter dogshit also casino royale was excellent and quantum was very good. skyfall? absolute feces
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Personally I don't think skyfall is a bad bond movie but it is a bad Daniel Craig bond movie since it caps off Casino Royale and Quantum as a reboot trilogy, it feels very out of place much in the same way most third movies of trilogies are kind of weird and don't fit right Skyfall should've been a Brosnan movie. Infact it kind of was, there are so many parallels between The World is Not Enough and Skyfall and in many ways (I never thought I'd say this) TWINE isn't as dumb of a movie since it only breaks my suspension of disbelief on Denise Richards being a nuclear physicist instead of breaking my suspension of disbelief on every single member of MI6 being a total drooling idiot and Silva being able to plot out his revenge so absurdly meticulously to the point where he can make a train derail into Bond I had fun while watching Skyfall in the theater though so eh
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pretty soft girl posted:I did know that they approached him when he was very young and he turned it down but I didn't realize it was for For Your Eyes Only. Wasn't Brosnan also doing Remington Steele at the time? That was a giant Bond piss-take.
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jesus christ, how broken do you have to be not to like skyfall? the movie was loving excellent
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I'm seeing things about an OHMSS remake and I think the timing is wrong? in Skyfall James was the cold loveless monster that Royale and quantum developed him into, but he should go on, like, at least one more adventure before he meets somebody that finally breaks his cold exterior before immediately being shot to death. I liked Skyfall but poo poo was somber and resolute like fuckin Hemingway. next movie should end, like, "some vacation and lovemaking, and then I'll be ready for my next adventure >:J", not "love is fake and will only break your heart and kill you, but I already knew that."
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I would just like to say that when it comes to bond films, as bad as die another day was nothing will beat how god awful live and let die is. The main villain gets killed by having compressed air pumped into him until he pops like they're in a loving cartoon. Also, Brosnan has no great bond movies since golden eye was written for Dalton, and it's actually the best Dalton movie. Fun fact about golden eye... originally 006 was suppose to be played by Alan Rickman. How loving badass would that have been?
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A Winner is Jew posted:I would just like to say that when it comes to bond films, as bad as die another day was nothing will beat how god awful live and let die is. The main villain gets killed by having compressed air pumped into him until he pops like they're in a loving cartoon. Uh excuse me but this is like an all time top five villain fatality 
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why do the skyfall writers think that cyanide, a poison, is some kind of corrosive acid
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Torka posted:why do the skyfall writers think that cyanide, a poison, is some kind of corrosive acid No see the villain thought it was cyanide, but it turned out to be acid (in his fake tooth) that would ruin his dental records so he couldn't be ID'd. It was his ultimate betrayal moment that he couldn't suicide and it drove him nuts etc etc
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Cyra posted:jesus christ, how broken do you have to be not to like skyfall? the movie was loving excellent self referential bond film that ends like home alone. poo poo villain, too
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If they want to being back some of the goofy Bond stuff they might as well go whole hog and have Blofeld be played by Mike Meyers
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Has anyone unironically claimed the 1960s Casino Royale to be the best yet?
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Literal Carehaver posted:self referential bond film that ends like home alone. poo poo villain, too I can understand not liking skyfall but you just listed all of the things that own about it
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Yeah...I don't think Bond should be trying to 'buy back' campy anymore. It doesn't have to keep getting more actiony, either. Bond should just be a cool dick to people for the most part. Especially this iteration of Bond. I think this is going to end badly.
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id feel like i was reaching to hold noticing a homage to a film from the previous series as something that ruins a movie for me "self-referential"  this thread is about an action movie i think we can save this "intellectual" arthouse criticismor actually if you want to criticize it in that light go full blast cause it would probably be pretty good gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Dec 5, 2014 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:id feel like i was reaching to hold noticing a homage to a film from the previous series as something that ruins a movie for me self-referential is a pretty good criticism of Die Another Day since it does it both lazily and to excess, maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention but it never bothered me in skyfall
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Egbert Souse posted:Has anyone unironically claimed the 1960s Casino Royale to be the best yet? the best bond is Barry Nelson's Jimmy Bond
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i didnt watch any pierce brosnan bond movies after goldeneye goldeneye was pretty great (that intro rules) but read the plot of the next one and turned it down flat
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gary oldmans diary posted:i didnt watch any pierce brosnan bond movies after goldeneye imo (and this isn't a popular opinion) tomorrow never dies is a pretty worthwhile followup even if the plot is really stupid in addition to being hideously dated, I think it's a really fun movie and as the James Bonding guys point out it was made when john woo's american movies were in full force so it's got all sorts of crazy action scenes. bond ejects a pilot into another pilot's jet and the jet explodes, it's fucken awesome The others are pretty worthless though, the world is not enough is let down by a convoluted plot and the worst bond girl of all time but has some pretty respectable performances from brosnan and the antagonists, and die another day is literally the worst bond movie frankly I wouldn't blame you for sticking to your happy memories of goldeneye, even if it does look like a syfy movie these days
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) but read the plot of the next one and turned it down flat