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VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

bond killed this dude. not directly, but his machinations. and i always felt REALLY bad for him

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Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
I think it was Roger Deakins as cinematographer on Skyfall but yes he is the primary reason that movie is as good as it is. Still I'm looking forward to the next. Casino Royale is the best but because it was a refreshing take on Bond and had a lot of great characer moments in situations that weren't actioN or stunts like the Poker game. That helped set it apart. And also as always Eva Green killed it.

I'd like it if Pierce Brosnan played a defected 00 agent.

Gatts fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Dec 5, 2014

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

Gatts posted:

I'd like it if Pierce Brosnan played a defected 00 agent.

i think this could genuinely work out well. after seeing him in the matador, being a more suave/hands on less actiony defected agent would be right up his alley. not so 006 with fisticuffs and everything, but the same kind of spite

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

VideoGames posted:

i think this could genuinely work out well. after seeing him in the matador, being a more suave/hands on less actiony defected agent would be right up his alley. not so 006 with fisticuffs and everything, but the same kind of spite

Exactly. He work great as a suave charming villain. Granted we just had that and it was well done by Javier but I think Brosnan would work great. Especially if he were something like a father figure to Bond so his betryal has some impact.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
No old Bonds should be in new Bonds and every time it comes up as part of that weird codename theory it becomes a worse and worse idea.

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW
is bond going to a be a crying whiny beta like in the last movie.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Total Meatlove posted:

No old Bonds should be in new Bonds and every time it comes up as part of that weird codename theory it becomes a worse and worse idea.

I'm not saying it as a codename theory. I dont like that theory. Let Brosnan be another character. Point is he'd make a grat villain.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003
yeah, it wouldnt make sense to have brosnan as an old bond as there is only the one bond. thats not what we're saying.

but brosnan as a villain/defected kind of british agent works well. you owe it to at least watch the matador Meatlove if you havent. that kind of older jaded agent but with the villainous streak instead

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

TOILETLORD posted:

is bond going to a be a crying whiny beta like in the last movie.

I don't recall this at all

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW

pretty soft girl posted:

I don't recall this at all

look at this beta

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

VideoGames posted:

bond killed this dude. not directly, but his machinations. and i always felt REALLY bad for him

Eh Sanchez was such an unstable paranoid control freak that he was bound to get it at some point anyway even without Bond, like when sanchez guns down the dweeby accountant guy

Plus it gave us one of the best bond villain one liners

"What should we do with the money?"
"Launder it."

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

TOILETLORD posted:

look at this beta

No please

Please point out where Skyfall was anything other than a macho grisly action movie where Bond fucks up a bunch of dudes in awesome ways and beds beautiful women without giving a gently caress

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW

pretty soft girl posted:

No please

Please point out where Skyfall was anything other than a macho grisly action movie where Bond fucks up a bunch of dudes in awesome ways and beds beautiful women without giving a gently caress

when he was tied to the chair sharing his feelings with the villain

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord

TOILETLORD posted:

when he was tied to the chair sharing his feelings with the villain
lol do you interact with other people in real life ever

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW

Flayer posted:

lol do you interact with other people in real life ever

yes, i'm mostly just guessing because i didn't see the last bond movie because i'm not gay, all the promos i saw were just a dude in a speedo and an explosion.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;

TOILETLORD posted:

yes, i'm mostly just guessing because i didn't see the last bond movie because i'm not gay, all the promos i saw were just a dude in a speedo and an explosion.

:lol: M makes nailbombs out of lightbulbs.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
Speaking of which I hope there is another chair sequence in the next Bond flick.

In Casino we had the villain tie him to a chair and attempt to bust his balls and it got a bit gay and very physical. Then we had another where someone tries to seduce him in a chair psychologically and Bond replies "what makes you think this is my first time?"

So here's hoping they one up that and we get a robot or woman or badger or something that does this to Bond.

He has a history of people going for his privates ever since that laser beam in Goldfinger.

SopWATh
Jun 1, 2000

Mr. Fortitude posted:

I dunno what to even pick for the worst Bond movie, there's lots of contenders.

Literally everything with Piece Brosnan.


Daniel Craig is legit a better bond than any previous. I suppose in the 70's everyone loved the Roger Moore/Sean Connery style bond, all hairy and old and poo poo, but the reboot was much needed for a modern audience.

EDIT: Casino Royale, while being a bit dated now that there's not 24/7 Texas Hold'em tournaments on TV, was good because the reboot made Bond more of a real person compared to previous iterations.
This SPECTRE thing is loving dumb though, there's plenty of international intrigue that could make a better story line than some bullshit fake terrorist organization with a "secret island training base" Anyone who's not an idiot knows that Russia still spies on the U.S. and vice versa. There's plenty of political poo poo that could still go down, but this SPECTRE thing is a problem that the actual military can solve with 2 drones and a nuclear submarine. Spies need to do spy stuff, that's what makes spy movies interesting.

SopWATh fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Dec 5, 2014

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

"secret island volcano lair" actually

Cacator
Aug 6, 2005

You're quite good at turning me on.

FogHelmut posted:

"secret island volcano lair" actually

They have both, actually. The secret training island is in From Russia with Love.

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!
James Bond has always been a terrible spy. More often than not, he just walks right up to his target and introduces himself.

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW
the best you could do for a modern bond is go to a frat and find the biggest mcdouche bro, give them a gun.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

License to Kill is amazing just because Bond gives no fucks about killing everyone and everything simply for revenge instead of queen and country like all the other ones.

Sassafrasquatch
May 7, 2007

TOILETLORD posted:

is bond going to a be a crying whiny beta like in the last movie.

No, that was On Her Majesty's Secret Service. God that scene where he's trapped at the ice rink and surrounded by enemy agents was so bad. He looked like he was about to start crying or something.

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

A Winner is Jew posted:

License to Kill is amazing just because Bond gives no fucks about killing everyone and everything simply for revenge instead of queen and country like all the other ones.

Yeah even in the other ones where he goes rogue he's still chasing down targets that England wants to take down, but no one at mi6 could give a poo poo about sanchez and crew and bond goes after them anyway to the point where M is ready to put him down in person. Even if it's not a great movie the exchange between Bond and M might be one of the best ever between the two

I wish diamonds are forever was more of a license to kill style followup of OHMSS, that could've been awesome

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

Sassafrasquatch posted:

No, that was On Her Majesty's Secret Service. God that scene where he's trapped at the ice rink and surrounded by enemy agents was so bad. He looked like he was about to start crying or something.

Rofl I wish I had a gif of him being scared by a dude in a bear costume

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

pretty soft girl posted:

I wish diamonds are forever was more of a license to kill style followup of OHMSS, that could've been awesome

I wish diamonds are forever was more like any movie that wasn't diamonds are forever.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

pretty soft girl posted:

Yeah even in the other ones where he goes rogue he's still chasing down targets that England wants to take down, but no one at mi6 could give a poo poo about sanchez and crew and bond goes after them anyway to the point where M is ready to put him down in person. Even if it's not a great movie the exchange between Bond and M might be one of the best ever between the two

:agreed:

M telling Bond, a person that they trained to go around killing people that gets in his way, that he can't just go around killing people that gets in his way because he hasn't filled out the proper forms or something was great.

Rambling Robot
Sep 13, 2011
Duggar Fan Club Superstar #1 LOL
THE PORN PARODY WILL BE CALLED 'JAMES BONDAGE - SPECULUM'.

IN 2030 GOONS WILL LOOK FOR A LONG LOST BLURAY COPY.

TOILETLORD
Nov 13, 2012

by XyloJW

Rambling Robot posted:

THE PORN PARODY WILL BE CALLED 'JANE'S BONDAGE - SPECULUM'.

IN 2030 GOONS WILL LOOK FOR A LONG LOST BLURAY COPY.

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

Tricky D posted:

James Bond has always been a terrible spy. More often than not, he just walks right up to his target and introduces himself.

good thing he's a secret agent then and not a spy, a completely different profession. I bet he's also a terrible plumber.

Whirlwind Jones
Apr 13, 2013

by Lowtax

chaosbreather posted:

good thing he's a secret agent then and not a spy, a completely different profession. I bet he's also a terrible plumber.
lol u mad bitch?

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

chaosbreather posted:

good thing he's a secret agent then and not a spy, a completely different profession. I bet he's also a terrible plumber.

yeah secret agents and spies are totes different. :rolleyes:

chaosbreather
Dec 9, 2001

Wry and wise,
but also very sexual.

It's a common misconception. There are three separate streams of intelligence operatives: spies gather intelligence, analysts figure out courses of action based on the intelligence and agents enact those courses that fall outside the possibilities of diplomacy. Spies never use weapons, they're deeply embedded in a foreign community, totally passive. Even planting a bug is usually outside their purview. Accurate, constant information is vital for the modern intelligence service and you don't just burn a cover by getting a spy to go around killing people without a really good reason.

Is Bond a good agent though? Absolutely, when used correctly. At certain points in the metaplot his overtness is used as a strength, a kind of intelligence atomic weapon to scare the baddies into line. This kind of psychological warfare on the intelligence level has historically been used by the allies and later NATO to tremendous effect.

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Oscar Romeo Romeo
Apr 16, 2010

Egbert Souse posted:

Has anyone unironically claimed the 1960s Casino Royale to be the best yet?

I was reading the thread up until this post wondering if I really was the only person in the world who'd seen it. Nobody believes me that it exists. I remembered seeing it on television once during the day when I was little, and then a few years ago found it in a £1 DVD bin at Blockbuster. For the cast alone its worth watching, also the best Bond weapon ever, firing a pistol into a curved hand rail in a casino to hit the guy standing at the other side.

Trailer.

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