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Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Calling the Zuikaku then. Surely such an important ship wont be sunk !

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Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Stumbling Block posted:

My lucky ship turned up as part of the Wake Island TF a couple of days ago. It also happen to have reports of atleast 3 Allied BBs in the area at the same time. If those BBs turns out to be part of a relief force for those on Wake Island, it's going to be an interesting next few days.

No allied BBs could have made it there in time. Bad intel.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Is the point score accurate?

I.e. did the Lex go down for sure?

Saint Celestine fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Dec 16, 2014

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Grey Hunter posted:




YESSSSSSSSSSS!

Like that? She's close enough that she can make it home, but we're not going to be seeing the Big E around for several months. And I may just get lucky.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Rexim posted:

Soooooo if the Lexington is sunk, and the E is unavailable, how many American fleet carriers are left?

Saratoga and Yorktown?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

I also support operation Pearl 2 Electric Boogaloo. It seems like the best way to take out a large chunk of the surviving battleships and the Enterprise. Plus, it'll be interesting to see.

Won't KB take a bunch of losses to pilots that it can ill afford?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

paradigmblue posted:

I do agree that it would be great to see a scenario that gives Japan a real chance to take it to the allies late game. I've been toying around with an alt-history scenario that would allow Soviet forces to join the war in the Pacific Theater early , in 1944, and on Japan's side rather than on the allies. That huge influx of men, materials and most importantly oil would be a huge boon to late game Japan.

That doesn't really make sense though.

In this alt-history, why don't you make it so that the Germans defeat the Soviet Union and give them a few panzer divisions, the German fleet, and the ~7 aircraft carriers they had planned and then some? Add in the Soviet oil and you have a late game force.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Because to transfer ships they'd probably have to take out the British or American fleets.

No see, in this alt-history, The Germans won the Battle of the Atlantic and the Battle of Britain, so the home Islands are under a puppet rule. Nothing to interdict the German fleet now as they repeat Rozhestvensky's epic voyage. Roz part 2: This time with friendly Japanese at the other end.

Edit: You could also include the Regia Marina too! Thats like another 2 carriers and 7 battleships.


\/ Might as well give Japan Gundams.

Saint Celestine fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jan 2, 2015

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

OperaMouse posted:

If this happens mid '43, it forces the Allies to go on the offensive early, or move to an even end game.

Good luck on the US for launching an amphibious invasion of Europe without England in 43'.

Even with England in play, with the USSR defeated, I imagine it would be legit impossible until at least 45' or 46'

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

gohuskies posted:

Many of the invasion forces in Operation Torch were launched from the US. Having England as a base right there made the invasion of Normandy much easier, but it still could be done if sea superiority/supremacy could be maintained.

Operation Torch was practically an unopposed landing compared to D-day though.

I can't see a D-day sized landing being pulled off successfully against a Germany that isn't distracted with England and the Eastern Front. Not in 43' or 44' at least.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Did you sink the QE?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Takanago posted:

Set one player as IJA, and one player as IJN.

Then try to keep track of which one of you earns more victory points for Japan than the other.

This could be closer to reality if you pick two people that hated each other and constantly tried to gently caress over each other.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Night10194 posted:

Isn't this actually a sprint for the Japanese and a marathon for the Allies?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Anyone have any links to other good AARs?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Decoy Badger posted:

Regarding Wunderwaffen, could Japan's Me-262-a-likes even made a difference if they had them from the start of the home island bombing campaign? Could Japan have even fueled them or kept up with the insane maintenance requirements for enough squadrons to dent US bomber numbers?

If you want to wunderwaffen Japan a methods of victory in the air, the ME-262 is not what you would want. Rather, Wasserfalls and the like, deployed in sufficient numbers, might have made a dent.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:

I literally just read the part of Shattered Sword where they were talking about the Japanese aircraft industry.
.

So the problem--jet fighters or no--was already that they were dicking around with "next-gen" aircraft and not building enough planes in 1942, to say nothing of later in the war.

Japan would produce just 56 carrier attack aircraft during all of 1942

:catstare: :catstare: :catstare:

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Heres a good one with an interesting history-

HMS Royal Sovereign

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
Grey, do you have plans for Luganville and that area? Are you going to hit Noumea too? Just seems like without support, itll just be the first place taken back when the Allies counter push.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
I was looking at an AAR on the matrix forums, where a Japanese player took a lightly defended base on the west coast of Borneo and rebased fighter squadrons there, which let them provide air cover to their amphibious landings in the DEI before Singapore and the Philippines were even assaulted.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

GrabbinPeels posted:

Do you have a link to that? It sounds interesting.

Its not the easiest to read, given the huge paragraphs of action reports and few images.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3519450&mpage=1&key=

Palembang is taken on Jan 9th. Batavia was taken first. Japan is really aggressive. Western Australia is assaulted by Feb. Tulagi is taken, Port Blair, Trincomalee as well.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2900582&mpage=78&key=

IJ player is going into 1945 with KB intact, with most BBs, and air superiority in most places.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

gradenko_2000 posted:

I hate that I know what you mean by this, and probably always will.

We're talking about Beatty right?

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer
That would be fun though, if you were Scrooge McDuck rich back in the day. Whats preventing you from contracting Vickers-Armstrong to build your own dreadnought? Then you can play boates in real life.

Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

pthighs posted:

I'm guessing their contracts say something along the lines of "You can't build these for any other party than the U.S. Government"

Edit: But it never hurts to ask!

They most definitely didn't.

Vickers-Armstrong built dreadnoughts and battleships for Japan, Brazil, Turkey, etc, etc. There's likely nothing stopping a certain very rich individual from building his own battleship.

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Saint Celestine
Dec 17, 2008

Lay a fire within your soul and another between your hands, and let both be your weapons.
For one is faith and the other is victory and neither may ever be put out.

- Saint Sabbat, Lessons
Grimey Drawer

Konstantin posted:

China actually bought a decommissioned aircraft carrier claiming that they would turn it into a casino. Of course, the fact that it would need to be towed from Crimea made that story even more unbelievable then it normally would be. The Chinese had to negotiate with Turkey for over a year to get it out of the Black Sea, and it couldn't go through Suez, so they had to tow it across the Mediterranean, down to the Cape of Good Hope, and then all the way to China.

To be fair, China did buy two previous aircraft carriers and turn them into resort/attraction/casinos.

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